

Type 4/5 are currently unusable.
#1 Posted 15 December 2018 - 06:22 PM
#2 Posted 15 December 2018 - 06:26 PM

Tanks mastered: 403
Tanks 3 marked: 69
#3 Posted 15 December 2018 - 06:31 PM
The 13. (Tiger) Kompanie, of Panzer Regiment Großdeutschland, reported on the performance of the 88 mm KwK 36 L/56, when their Tigers engaged the T-34: "First round hits were usually achieved at ranges between 800 to 1,000 meters. At these ranges, the Panzer Granate (they are referring to the PzGr. 39 APCBC ammunition) absolutely penetrated through the frontal armor, and usually still destroyed the engine at the rear of the T-34 tank. In 80 percent of the cases, shots from the same range hitting the side of the hull toward the rear of the tank resulted in the fuel tanks exploding. Even at ranges of 1,500 meters and longer, during favorable weather, it is possible to succeed in penetrating the T-34 with minimal expenditure of ammunition" (JENTZ, Thomas L.; Germany's TIGER Tanks - Tiger I and II: Combat Tactics; op. cit.).
3 MoE tanks: T-34, Pz IVH, Tiger I, Pz.Kpfw. T 25, M7, T-50
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#4 Posted 15 December 2018 - 07:04 PM
had a long discussion with a random red after I ripped through his type5 weakspots in upper corners with a tier 8 hvy. he wasn't impressed.
its weakspots are high up on a massive tank, can't go hull down.
#5 Posted 15 December 2018 - 07:36 PM
#6 Posted 31 December 2018 - 03:43 PM
#7 Posted 13 January 2019 - 06:08 PM
I finally got through the O-HO tank....what a rubbish tank that was! Was the worst tank in the line for me.
So I researched and bought the Type 4 heavy and I’m having a riot in it. Really enjoying it - no more massive boob weakspots and resulting no gun depression over the front. Currently just I locked the first package (same small gun) and I’m managing to do better than the O-HO before it. Probably going to use the 14cm gun and smash my way through to the type 5...at this point, the Type 4 is a keeper
chris

#8 Posted 14 January 2019 - 06:34 PM

#9 Posted 21 January 2019 - 12:45 PM
question for type 4 : wich gun? i tried both, the 14cm ande the 15 cm .... and the 15 is very terrible. i bounced every shot with the gold ammo type 0 kai.... so i switched back to the 14cm
a good decision? need a liitle help! sry for my bad english
Wer den Schaden hat, braucht für den spot nicht zu sorgen
#10 Posted 21 January 2019 - 12:50 PM
dfcf-, on 21 January 2019 - 04:45 AM, said:
question for type 4 : wich gun? i tried both, the 14cm ande the 15 cm .... and the 15 is very terrible. i bounced every shot with the gold ammo type 0 kai.... so i switched back to the 14cm
a good decision? need a liitle help! sry for my bad english
The gold rounds only work vs flat unspaced armor, use HE
#11 Posted 21 January 2019 - 12:55 PM
Edited by dfcf-, 21 January 2019 - 12:58 PM.
Wer den Schaden hat, braucht für den spot nicht zu sorgen
#12 Posted 21 January 2019 - 01:36 PM
Wer den Schaden hat, braucht für den spot nicht zu sorgen
#13 Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:19 PM
#14 Posted 09 February 2019 - 08:04 PM
Yea both the 14 cm and 15 cm guns suck as they have god awfull pen.
My thoughts:
Buff pen on 14 cm from 249/282/70 to something like 258/300/70
And on the 15 cm revert the nerf of the HEAT shells.
#15 Posted 24 February 2019 - 08:30 AM
Joe Heshi, on 14 January 2019 - 06:34 PM, said:
Haha, I really appreciate it when people go to this length to add humor to the point they're trying to make. Thanks for this.
#16 Posted 22 March 2019 - 06:28 PM
With all of the spaced armor, the HE is an effectively useless round. 20 secs for maybe 400hps is laughable at best.
The shell should be overmatching so much side armor, yet you can still manage the fan favorite, “tracks no damage”.
The weak spots are impossible to hide. If you want a big boom without these headaches look to a 705A or Polish heavy.
If the green team "helps" me much more, I'll need friendly fire turned back on to defend myself.
#17 Posted 31 March 2019 - 01:00 PM
I play it in ranked battles only now, after nerfs
#18 Posted 15 August 2019 - 08:12 AM

#19 Posted 17 November 2019 - 03:25 PM
These tanks are very underwhelming. They should definitely be buffed to have any sort of resemblance of competitiveness. Tier IX is the better one of these two largely because it can face Tier VII opposition.
That being said, they are some blueprint tanks for a reason, anyway. I'm not interested in seeing them OP or even very competitive. After all, they are huge tanks with flat armour, zero mobility and concealment, topped with a gun that is less accurate than some artillery with direct fire. The front of the tank is very thick but usually works only on a long distance or against muppets who either don't know where to shoot or don't use premium ammo. I think it should get some attention on some of its deficiencies. For me the best option would feel to be improving the gun. Reduce aiming time, improve HEAT penetration and improve the reload time by 2-3 seconds or so on the 15cm gun. Thus they would still remain kind of novelty tanks with a lot of things going against them, but they would be nicer to play with.
Currently Type 5 is the worst Tier X heavy in: avg damage, kills per game, hit percent, WN8, efficiency rating, spotting. Second worst in damage ratio (+1% from bottom) and 3rd worst in K/D (+0.03 from bottom). The closes comparison would be E100, which by no means is a great tank either, but its WN8 is about 23% higher than the Type 5. Distance to the leading tank in WN8 is 70%. Another curiosity is that only 3 players have managed super unicum level with the Type 5. All these stats are from the PS4 server. While a lot of things effect WN8 stats, like mobility, the gun is still arguably the largest contributor, and with this in mind improving the gun would be a great thing.

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