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Huncho_Mystic #41 Posted 11 January 2019 - 12:15 AM

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This tank has been around tier 5 as an op monster forever.  Too bad for you that you can no longer easily cruise through the ops with it.  Many players now know exactly where to pen it I suspect. 

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SirDerp-a-lot #42 Posted 11 January 2019 - 02:33 AM

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View Posthmsmystic, on 11 January 2019 - 01:15 AM, said:

This tank has been around tier 5 as an op monster forever. Too bad for you that you can no longer easily cruise through the ops with it. Many players now know exactly where to pen it I suspect.

 

Nope, still bouncy as ever. The most important change is that more Pz. V/IVs, Bogatyrs and KV-1s are around.

Turboclicker #43 Posted 11 January 2019 - 02:52 AM

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View PostNomad2001, on 10 January 2019 - 02:33 PM, said:

 

Don't have release notes, but have personal experience notes. From being a Beta and SuperTester, I know that there are things that may or may not be on release notes that happen to a tank. I've had this tank since before it was released (in Beta), so I know it very well. I tested it both for 360 and the One. It is nerfed whether there were release notes on it or not. It could even be the unintended result of another change, after all it is computer/console and changes to one line of code, can affect other lines unintentionally. 

 

This didn't happen. You have performed poorly and have credited that to a nerf instead of poor performance. They would never nerf arty and they definitely didn't nerf the Churchill III.

Turboclicker #44 Posted 11 January 2019 - 03:08 AM

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View PostWroclaw, on 10 January 2019 - 03:51 PM, said:

 

 

 

 

if you have to ask then your not paying attention. the most famous was the T95E2 debacle. & just recently was the complete nerfing of Controlled Impact.

 

they are constantly trying to maintain their version of game balance. to make a tanks gun slightly less capable, or to make a tanks armor slightly less effective doesnt need more than a tiny value change in the code & they dont have to say anything about it. but the people who constantly play them feel / notice it.

 

View PostCowboyArizona, on 10 January 2019 - 04:25 PM, said:

 

Finally, the one person not drinking kool-aid and chanting what man behind the curtains tells them to.

 

I'm just gonna say it outright and get it over with, neither of you are capable of detecting subtle changes that you proclaim you can.

mockney_piers #45 Posted 11 January 2019 - 08:14 AM

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Could this be a short-term thing related to the Absolution plague?

Joco3000 #46 Posted 11 January 2019 - 08:26 AM

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View Postmockney_piers, on 11 January 2019 - 08:14 AM, said:

Could this be a short-term thing related to the Absolution plague?

It's likely just a bad streak, and the OP wants to blame everything except the thing it likely is. 

 

I've seen it dozens of times here. "Could I be getting worse? No, the tank has been nerfed". 


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mockney_piers #47 Posted 11 January 2019 - 08:57 AM

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well it's definitely confirmation bias.

I just wondered if the absolution might be a factor as their prevalence is quite something (see battle count below)

 

 

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CivilWarGoat #48 Posted 11 January 2019 - 12:35 PM

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View PostNomad2001, on 10 January 2019 - 07:10 PM, said:

I do a lot of OPs and when there are OPs that require a certain amount of Tanks to be Destroyed, I went to my Churchill III.  It has the highest XP ratio for any tank 178%, the Black Edition Tanks have 175%, so it was an XP OP provider as well. You could go toe to toe with a Captured KV-1, KV 220, Bogatyr, T1 Heavy and who ever was more accurate with their shots would win.

Since an update 3 maybe 4 updates ago, that tank was nerfed so bad that I don't even want to play it anymore. It's speed is slower, reload slower, accuracy lower, damage is lower, and ability to bounce shots much lower. Any tank can pen it now from any distance and it can't pen the above mentioned tanks on a consistent basis, and when it does, the damage is very low. It doesn't seem that the above tanks have been nerfed, I have them, and they play the same as always. Why the nerf on my favorite tank? 

 

Side note: It's a crime what you've done to the Arty. Aren't they at a big enough disadvantage as it is with no armor, slow load outs, slow speed (most of them), long air time (if you stay in one spot you deserve to get arty hit, sorry but that's the way it is). I hardly ever get a 1 shot kill anymore because the damage has been so nerfed. If you're going to nerf a tank like the BC 155-58 cut the reload time in half. That tank used to put 4 shells out quickly and you had the opportunity to 1 shot a tank with any one of those shots (just like real arty). Now it takes 4 rounds to kill a tank 2 tiers below it. Sad.

 

Please Buff the Churchill III

 

Thank You.

 

hmmmmmm. No.  Seal clubbing tanks dont need buffs.

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View Postmockney_piers, on 11 January 2019 - 09:14 AM, said:

Could this be a short-term thing related to the Absolution plague?

 

Of course, that is a large factor.

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I am glad i dont believe everything i read on the internets.

 

 


DrHorrible4Life #51 Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:17 PM

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Does it feel roughly 25% worse?  

 

We have +/- 25% RNG.  Which means it gets buffed or nerfed between shots.  

 

 



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View PostKING FROG, on 11 January 2019 - 08:45 AM, said:

I am glad i dont believe everything i read on the internets.

 

If I didn't see it on TV it did not happen!


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View PostWroclaw, on 10 January 2019 - 08:28 PM, said:

why are all these long time forumers asking for patch notes ?

 

its common knowledge at the forum that virtually every patch loads of changes get made without being mentioned.

 

Almost like the fact that the stats in 3 separate places haven't been changed (patch notes, in-game, as well as the wotconsole website) people might actually want evidence rather than believe the ranting of someone who wants a notorious seal clubbing tank buffed.

 

View PostCowboyArizona, on 10 January 2019 - 09:25 PM, said:

 

Finally, the one person not drinking kool-aid and chanting what man behind the curtains tells them to.

 

Yes, because obviously, when someone doesn't immediately disagree with tinfoil hat conspiracy theories that makes them a WG shill. :facepalm:


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Played a few games in it today. Nothing notable to report.  Except a lot of KV-1 etc. making it things a bit tricky.

Wroclaw #55 Posted 11 January 2019 - 11:17 PM

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View PostTurboclicker, on 11 January 2019 - 03:08 AM, said:

 

 

I'm just gonna say it outright and get it over with, neither of you are capable of detecting subtle changes that you proclaim you can.

 

subtle ? the T95E2 had all of its armor removed. it was capable of being penned thru the UFP by a tier 1.

 

& it only came to notice because of testing by the players, players who noticed something was wrong. & its the exact same case with the disabling of the Controlled Impact skill.

 

im amazed you guys pay such poor attention to these things.



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View PostSHRiIVIP, on 11 January 2019 - 06:11 PM, said:

 

Almost like the fact that the stats in 3 separate places haven't been changed (patch notes, in-game, as well as the wotconsole website) 

 

2 of those are just numbers on a website server. they have nothing to do with the actual game code. the other doesnt have to change for an actual change to have taken place.


Edited by Wroclaw, 11 January 2019 - 11:25 PM.


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View PostTocFanKe4, on 10 January 2019 - 08:21 PM, said:

 

A Blitzen and a Valentine can both pen the Churchill, especially with premium rounds.  Blitzen needs a little RNG help, but the Valentine can do it without. 

 

Valantine can  definitely bugger up a CII with the 75mm fitted, not a good idea to do it at close range though...

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View PostFuzzySquirrel21, on 10 January 2019 - 11:29 AM, said:

 

Who cares aim time in this thing?.   Load premium, lock on, hold down trigger button.   

 

I have Rammer on mine and I have it 3 marked.   

 

Rammer, vents, GLD.   I’m always upfront though with this thing.   You don’t even need to wait for aimtime, just hold down trigger button and you will pen 8/10 shots.   While the red is waiting aim time, I already fired 5-6 shots for his 1.

This is what I do in mine as well, I want the most insane rate of fire I can get on the C3 for close in brawls.

 

Its still a viable tank, mine is only 2 MoE though



xKingTidusx #59 Posted 12 January 2019 - 03:17 AM

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What a disgusting thread, lol. 

Neither the churchill nor arty was nerfed, Churchill was always slow, "little" damage and 80mm flat turret armor, but with deadly DPM and pref. matchmaking.

And arty is still broken, one shot there, 800+ dmg roll while fullspeed there. 

Please leave this area now.


 

 


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View PostNomad2001, on 11 January 2019 - 02:10 AM, said:

I do a lot of OPs and when there are OPs that require a certain amount of Tanks to be Destroyed, I went to my Churchill III.  It has the highest XP ratio for any tank 178%, the Black Edition Tanks have 175%, so it was an XP OP provider as well. You could go toe to toe with a Captured KV-1, KV 220, Bogatyr, T1 Heavy and who ever was more accurate with their shots would win.

Since an update 3 maybe 4 updates ago, that tank was nerfed so bad that I don't even want to play it anymore. It's speed is slower, reload slower, accuracy lower, damage is lower, and ability to bounce shots much lower. Any tank can pen it now from any distance and it can't pen the above mentioned tanks on a consistent basis, and when it does, the damage is very low. It doesn't seem that the above tanks have been nerfed, I have them, and they play the same as always. Why the nerf on my favorite tank? 

 

Side note: It's a crime what you've done to the Arty. Aren't they at a big enough disadvantage as it is with no armor, slow load outs, slow speed (most of them), long air time (if you stay in one spot you deserve to get arty hit, sorry but that's the way it is). I hardly ever get a 1 shot kill anymore because the damage has been so nerfed. If you're going to nerf a tank like the BC 155-58 cut the reload time in half. That tank used to put 4 shells out quickly and you had the opportunity to 1 shot a tank with any one of those shots (just like real arty). Now it takes 4 rounds to kill a tank 2 tiers below it. Sad.

 

Please Buff the Churchill III

 

Thank You.

 

Good, and I hope console is smart enough NEVER to get the arty stun mechanic from PC. 

 

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