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M4ntiX #1 Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:09 PM

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So I've been holding off with this question for a while now, but since it happened again, I have to ask. :)

 

What's up with the first game in a new tank matchmaking??

 

Didn't we used to be always top tier in the very first battle to get a feel for the tank before fighting higher tiers? If this was changed, may we know when and why?

Personally I don't mind that much, but being the only tier III in a full tier V lobby is a bit ridiculous to be honest. :)

I get you WG folk must think we are all made of steel and don't mind +/-2 matchmaking, but c'mon... Very first battle... Really?

 



RAD FROOD 25 #2 Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:11 PM

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Meh your in a Merc so it doesn't matter that much 

M4ntiX #3 Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:16 PM

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View PostRAD FROOD 25, on 21 January 2019 - 05:11 PM, said:

Meh your in a Merc so it doesn't matter that much 

 

Ya, I ken. Aced it in 2nd battle and will never play it again. The question stands though, so please don't derail the thread.

RAD FROOD 25 #4 Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:20 PM

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View PostM4ntiX, on 21 January 2019 - 05:16 PM, said:

 

Ya, I ken. Aced it in 2nd battle and will never play it again. The question stands though, so please don't derail the thread.

 

But you are true in that I always thought you were top tier in a new tank. 

Camelman Fin #5 Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:20 PM

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They removed that new tank mm some time ago, i havent been top tier with new tanks in first game atleast few months now

Edited by Camelman Fin, 21 January 2019 - 05:22 PM.


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Yep saw that a while back. :(

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View PostCamelman Fin, on 21 January 2019 - 11:20 AM, said:

They removed that new tank mm some time ago, i havent been top tier with new tanks in first game atleast few months now

 

Where was that announced?  I'm having a hard time believing this based on somebody's word on the forum.

 

They never automatically gave you top tier.  They said that the MM tries to give you easier MM the first few games.  But if you're in platoon or there's few people in your tier, that can go out the window.

 


 

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M4ntiX #8 Posted 21 January 2019 - 06:46 PM

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View PostTocFanKe4, on 21 January 2019 - 05:44 PM, said:

 

Where was that announced?  I'm having a hard time believing this based on somebody's word on the forum.

 

 

Yup, same here. I must've missed the memo. WG, care to respond? Or if the question was already answered, can you point us to the announcement? Thanks! :)

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Usualy you get honeymoon MM for a new tank, but since you were in Trasher you get trashy MM.

 

The 13. (Tiger) Kompanie, of Panzer Regiment Großdeutschland, reported on the performance of the 88 mm KwK 36 L/56, when their Tigers engaged the T-34: "First round hits were usually achieved at ranges between 800 to 1,000 meters. At these ranges, the Panzer Granate (they are referring to the PzGr. 39 APCBC ammunition) absolutely penetrated through the frontal armor, and usually still destroyed the engine at the rear of the T-34 tank. In 80 percent of the cases, shots from the same range hitting the side of the hull toward the rear of the tank resulted in the fuel tanks exploding. Even at ranges of 1,500 meters and longer, during favorable weather, it is possible to succeed in penetrating the T-34 with minimal expenditure of ammunition" (JENTZ, Thomas L.; Germany's TIGER Tanks - Tiger I and II: Combat Tactics; op. cit.).

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Had this just happen to me in the Firefly. First 4 games were Tier VII, Tier VIII, Tier VII, and finally a Tier VI top tier game. I don't remember it ever being announced, but it definitely seems to have changed.

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View PostJope2209, on 21 January 2019 - 07:06 PM, said:

Usualy you get honeymoon MM for a new tank, but since you were in Trasher you get trashy MM.

 

very cruel sir. :teethhappy: and me thinks it was posted by max, but my brain cells ain't what they use to be. :(

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View PostTopsmuggler65, on 21 January 2019 - 07:12 PM, said:

 

very cruel sir. :teethhappy: and me thinks it was posted by max, but my brain cells ain't what they use to be. :(

 

Lol, honeymoon is a thing, at least it used to be. It was confirmed more than once by WG officials on forums and live streams. I remember Paingod talking about it, but it was some time ago. I don't think it works nowdays. They've broke it.

 

The 13. (Tiger) Kompanie, of Panzer Regiment Großdeutschland, reported on the performance of the 88 mm KwK 36 L/56, when their Tigers engaged the T-34: "First round hits were usually achieved at ranges between 800 to 1,000 meters. At these ranges, the Panzer Granate (they are referring to the PzGr. 39 APCBC ammunition) absolutely penetrated through the frontal armor, and usually still destroyed the engine at the rear of the T-34 tank. In 80 percent of the cases, shots from the same range hitting the side of the hull toward the rear of the tank resulted in the fuel tanks exploding. Even at ranges of 1,500 meters and longer, during favorable weather, it is possible to succeed in penetrating the T-34 with minimal expenditure of ammunition" (JENTZ, Thomas L.; Germany's TIGER Tanks - Tiger I and II: Combat Tactics; op. cit.).

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View PostJope2209, on 21 January 2019 - 07:06 PM, said:

Usualy you get honeymoon MM for a new tank, but since you were in Trasher you get trashy MM.

 

Hehehe! Funny, but also incorrect. Trashy mm is a thing regardless of whether you're in a recycled tank or not. Something has changed.

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No one runs tier IIIs anymore now that ops aren’t compatible with them. Everyone is running their tier Vs now to be eligible for most of the Winter Ops like ‘Making a Point’. Probably not enough players running tiers II & III so you got the shaft. 

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View PostATHFjman18, on 21 January 2019 - 07:25 PM, said:

No one runs tier IIIs anymore now that ops aren’t compatible with them. Everyone is running their tier Vs now to be eligible for most of the Winter Ops like ‘Making a Point’. Probably not enough players running tiers II & III so you got the shaft. 

 

There were roughly equal numbers of tier III, IV & V in the queue. That's why I decided to play this tank. No, something has changed. This is not a singular case. We are no longer top tier when playing a tank for the first time.

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View PostJope2209, on 21 January 2019 - 07:16 PM, said:

 

Lol, honeymoon is a thing, at least it used to be. It was confirmed more than once by WG officials on forums and live streams. I remember Paingod talking about it, but it was some time ago. I don't think it works nowdays. They've broke it.

 

no more honeymoon just straight back to work. :(

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View PostM4ntiX, on 21 January 2019 - 07:28 PM, said:

 

There were roughly equal numbers of tier III, IV & V in the queue. That's why I decided to play this tank. No, something has changed. This is not a singular case. We are no longer top tier when playing a tank for the first time.

 

The official word was nothing has changed. I consider myself very lucky that I got top tier for hundreds of tanks previously. I should've bought a lottery ticket before the big update last fall.



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That hasn’t been a thing for quite some time now. 

I asked an EOD man how he dealt with the stress of his job. 

 

He said he didn’t have any stress. Either he was right or else it became someone else’s problem. 


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View PostPit Friend, on 21 January 2019 - 06:03 PM, said:

That hasn’t been a thing for quite some time now. 

 

I guess I'm just getting lucky.  I get easier MM on new tanks


 

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I recall a thread a couple months back on the subject.  IIRC, Max chimed in saying that there is no longer a honeymoon.  Even when we did get it, I thought it was for new premium tanks only.

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