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M4ntiX #21 Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:16 PM

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View PostDiabolicGambit, on 07 February 2019 - 11:11 PM, said:

The major issue here is they breached the terms of the sale

 

Yes, but have they... core breached them?

 

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Coupdeteat #22 Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:17 PM

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View PostM4ntiX, on 07 February 2019 - 04:16 PM, said:

 

Yes, but have they... core breached them?

 

Tadummmm tssss! :P

 

haha haha...thank you for that. 

FlexedCornet40 #23 Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:23 PM

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View PostCoupdeteat, on 07 February 2019 - 10:56 PM, said:

Think about it this way. Say you were buying a corvette. Not a cheap car to begin with. So you go to buy a standard corvette (let’s say the regular lowe) and they tell you that this one time only it comes with this much bigger engine and suspension package. It costs extra, but they’re not going to make it again, ever. So you spend the extra and get it. Then they make the same option available massively and allow people to trade in a Buick to get huge discounts on it. 

Do you always believe what strangers tell you? And car dealers? Really?



Coupdeteat #24 Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:28 PM

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View PostFlexedCornet40, on 07 February 2019 - 04:23 PM, said:

Do you always believe what strangers tell you? And car dealers? Really?

 

not generally unless they have candy or are looking for a lost puppy with their van. Major gaming companies however...I do generally give the benefit of the doubt. 

Destraag #25 Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:38 PM

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I played long enough to finish the ops.

 

The comrade was better, 

 

Shooting at the soldier was like shooting at a barn. you couldn't miss.

 

The controls were very poor and the movement was clunky.

 

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It was a mistake to "promise" they were never going to be sold again. It was a complete debacle to break that promise. sad moment and bad for their reputation as a company.

 

Kind of leaves me wondering about how much strife there was internally over this... not sure what long term impact it will have. Maybe they judged the people who care are such a small portion of the players that it really doesn't matter?

 

I did own a pair of them. I'm not personally offended though because I didn't intend to buy them, just lucked into them because of the free trade up they offered for recent buyers of the base versions of the sta-2 and t34. Kind of feel like I should be offended for the rest of the owners though. 

When a person resorts to attacking the other person rather than focusing on the issue (aka argumentum ad hominem), it becomes pretty clear they have nothing else to contribute and are wrong.


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View PostDiabolicGambit, on 07 February 2019 - 11:11 PM, said:

The major issue here is they breached the terms of the sale

You mean the EULA. You should read it, especially section 5.4  "ownership of your account." Guess what, you actually don't own your account. You merely paid to use WG's content.



Tempest fox3 #27 Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:52 PM

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View PostTemplarKnight75, on 07 February 2019 - 10:57 PM, said:

A lot changes in two years and when the only argument against black tanks is "I don't want anyone but me having them" well I'm sorry but that's selfish. If wg decides to bring them back due to a large demand then that's their prerogative its doesn't negatively affect anyone who bought them you still have your tanks that you don't play and you still had two years with them to yourself. Demanding compensation and their removable just to placate a desire to be the only one with them is plain selfish. 

 

Then you obviously didn't read my last reply to you on the subject. 

 

Stop trying to presume you know why people are annoyed or dismiss it as being selfish when you aren't paying attention to what people are actually saying.

 

It sets a bad precedent when a company makes a promise to its customers, it's community and then does the exact opposite and I find it hilarious that you're defending them for it. 


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Asmodeios #28 Posted 08 February 2019 - 12:04 AM

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View PostDiabolicGambit, on 07 February 2019 - 05:11 PM, said:

The major issue here is they breached the terms of the sale

No, they didn't. You have no leg to stand on.



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Wow, you got it right on the video that the black tanks would only be sold once. This makes them look very bad to put it mildly. 

DrHorrible4Life #30 Posted 08 February 2019 - 01:13 AM

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View PostTemplarKnight75, on 07 February 2019 - 10:57 PM, said:

A lot changes in two years and when the only argument against black tanks is "I don't want anyone but me having them" well I'm sorry but that's selfish. If wg decides to bring them back due to a large demand then that's their prerogative its doesn't negatively affect anyone who bought them you still have your tanks that you don't play and you still had two years with them to yourself. Demanding compensation and their removable just to placate a desire to be the only one with them is plain selfish. 

 

Well you're a liar.  I don't own any black tanks, and I don't think they should have sold them again.  If this was the first time this had been said, you could just be ignorant.  But since someone makes this exact statement EVERY time, you're clearly just a liar.  Or willfully ignorant?  Nah, you're a liar.

AskingCupid78 #31 Posted 08 February 2019 - 05:43 AM

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The Corebreach mode was a disapointment, just not good in any way, i played it just to get the  10 points for the earn ops.

And the Black tanks should never have been sold again it should have been a once of deal, they should have created another set of tanks with somewhat similar bonuses that could have been a once of deal, instead of wasting time on failures like the Premium Merc "Tanks" and the Mercs in general.

 



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I wonder if the law firm suing Bethesda over Fallout 76 would have any interest in this?

CSW652 #33 Posted 08 February 2019 - 07:42 AM

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I never get surveys from Wargaming.  How do I get on the list to get them?

 

Don't own and won't be buying any black tanks.  Personally I think it was wrong to sell them as created in the 1st place and more wrong to sell them after repeatedly being told they would never be sold again.  Besides they are all rather ugly with all the markings on them.



R35T NO MORE #34 Posted 08 February 2019 - 07:48 AM

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This Black tank thing is one scenario where i do feel sorry for Rai, Max and the other staff who come here. Odds on some anonymous person is marketing made this choice and then the staff here end up taking the flak. For the people who are angry, there's a lesson to be learned here that the original V/IV owners learned a long time ago: WG, as a company, simply can not be trusted and their word means nothing. 

 

Now, that doesn't mean the individual staff shouldn't be trusted. Alot of them do everything they can for us. The company overall though? Got to be very wary. 



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They went back on their word...nuff said

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Yup Rai and Max both liers

R35T NO MORE #37 Posted 08 February 2019 - 11:46 AM

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View PostDiabolicGambit, on 08 February 2019 - 11:39 AM, said:

Yup Rai and Max both liers

No point shooting the messengers. 



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View PostR35T NO MORE, on 08 February 2019 - 07:48 AM, said:

This Black tank thing is one scenario where i do feel sorry for Rai, Max and the other staff who come here. Odds on some anonymous person is marketing made this choice and then the staff here end up taking the flak. For the people who are angry, there's a lesson to be learned here that the original V/IV owners learned a long time ago: WG, as a company, simply can not be trusted and their word means nothing. 

 

Now, that doesn't mean the individual staff shouldn't be trusted. Alot of them do everything they can for us. The company overall though? Got to be very wary. 

 

I am that V/IV owner and yes a lesson was learned so I'm not suprised by this. As it is the black tanks don't hold any interest for me.

 

Agree with the OP wholeheartedly



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Thanks Retro, always enjoy your videos. Filled out my survey after watching your tutorial.

 


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View PostTempest fox3, on 07 February 2019 - 11:52 PM, said:

 

Then you obviously didn't read my last reply to you on the subject. 

 

Stop trying to presume you know why people are annoyed or dismiss it as being selfish when you aren't paying attention to what people are actually saying.

 

It sets a bad precedent when a company makes a promise to its customers, it's community and then does the exact opposite and I find it hilarious that you're defending them for it. 

 

you won’t win this argument. Not with that one. What you are calling out is SOP for how that one operates. Blinders. Or just looking to be obtuse in order to argue or be offended.  Or, no lateral thinking. 

 

Or a combo ofall 3. 






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