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WargamingJelf #1 Posted 15 February 2019 - 09:48 AM

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hey Guys and girls,

so recently, I’ve been scratching around google trying to find out more about the T-34-3. But there’s very little info. I find it impossible How China would manage to plan a T-34 modification in 1957, yet they didn’t gain the rights to mass produce it in 1958? Seems to me like Wargaming are making up tanks.

so does anyone have a blueprint or any physical evidence?

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KajitaBerlin #2 Posted 15 February 2019 - 10:13 AM

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You are talking about real life tank? hmm....I never heard of it tbh. As for the fantasy world of tanks I can say I have it and I must admit I like it, although it needs some love I think. 

 

But hey, I doubt there was ever a banana t.a.n.k. on real battlefield or a autloader during ww2.... in wot magic happens sometimes.



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View PostxXboxAhoyXx, on 15 February 2019 - 09:48 AM, said:

hey Guys and girls,

so recently, I’ve been scratching around google trying to find out more about the T-34-3. But there’s very little info. I find it impossible How China would manage to plan a T-34 modification in 1957, yet they didn’t gain the rights to mass produce it in 1958? Seems to me like Wargaming are making up tanks.

so does anyone have a blueprint or any physical evidence?

thanks guys 

 

I remember reading that all of the information regarding Chinese tanks comes from the company that runs WoT PC in China. Since China is still very secretive about its military projects, I would say it’s safe to say that there’s a slim chance it’s real, but more than likely either a made up, or a napkin tank.

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View PostCpl Derren, on 15 February 2019 - 07:36 AM, said:

 

I remember reading that all of the information regarding Chinese tanks comes from the company that runs WoT PC in China. Since China is still very secretive about its military projects, I would say it’s safe to say that there’s a slim chance it’s real, but more than likely either a made up, or a napkin tank.

 

This.  China keeps all her secrets... :hiding:

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This sounds counter intuitive but if you check the tank out on Tankopedia on the main page or the Wiki it tells you a brief history and whether they were produced, prototypes, blue prints, etc.. Link to the console tankopedia description is at bottom of page. https://console.worldoftanks.com/en/encyclopedia/vehicles/china/Ch14_T34_3/

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Thanks for the info everyone.
I’d love it if China actually released info on their Cold War era tank developments.

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View PostPYLE33, on 15 February 2019 - 12:53 PM, said:

This sounds counter intuitive but if you check the tank out on Tankopedia on the main page or the Wiki it tells you a brief history and whether they were produced, prototypes, blue prints, etc.. Link to the console tankopedia description is at bottom of page. https://console.worldoftanks.com/en/encyclopedia/vehicles/china/Ch14_T34_3/

 

Which is not a reliable source. WG absolutely lies on these.

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View PostRoad Runnerdn, on 20 February 2019 - 07:09 PM, said:

 

Which is not a reliable source. WG absolutely lies on these.

 

More so if you consider the TD line from at least tier IV onward. They did fish a T-62 out of a river, so we know they had that impact development, along with the WZ-122, the only Chinese 122 mm armed 'medium' tank that is tangible for intents and purposes.

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View Postgreyweasel UK, on 20 February 2019 - 10:56 PM, said:

 

More so if you consider the TD line from at least tier IV onward. They did fish a T-62 out of a river, so we know they had that impact development, along with the WZ-122, the only Chinese 122 mm armed 'medium' tank that is tangible for intents and purposes.

 

WZ-122 would seem like a better Tier 10 alternative to the 121 if you ask me.

Yet again, we have no concrete proof that the 121 existed...

And all the TDs are fake, and that story about the T-62 is fantastic.



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View PostWargamingJelf, on 22 February 2019 - 10:02 PM, said:

 

WZ-122 would seem like a better Tier 10 alternative to the 121 if you ask me.

Yet again, we have no concrete proof that the 121 existed...

And all the TDs are fake, and that story about the T-62 is fantastic.

 

The bit about capturing a T-62 is real, there was a brief conflict during 1969 and a T-62 was disabled by a landmine during a river crossing. It was later captured by the Chinese and technologies from it were reverse engineered and applied to the development of the Type-59 series of tanks.

 

The captured T-62 is on display at the Military Museum of the Chinese People’s Revolution in Beijing. 


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Ive been looking into the chinese light tank line since ive been grinding it .

From what I could find the wz 132 was different projects for new technologies on the Type 62 not sure what those specific technolgoies would have been .

The 105 L7 on the tier 10 is fake as China didnt have access to the L7 that early . However they did eventually mount the 105 L7 in the Type 62 with a muzzlebrake added to it . It reminds me alot of the M41 Walker with the 105 L7 which also had a muzzlebrake .

 

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1360&bih=657&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNTDMa8wtyf1Yk-RyetrqoESJtrOeA%3A1574030764370&sa=1&ei=rM3RXcKhFoKz5gLQjL-ABg&q=type+62G&oq=type+62G&gs_l=img.3..35i39j0i24.1560.2936..3197...0.0..0.112.475.4j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0.Hw_41p30NIQ&ved=0ahUKEwjCp83EqfLlAhWCmVkKHVDGD2AQ4dUDCAc&uact=5

 

 

Seems alot of the Chinese tanks are dubious at best .

 



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Although the WG description of the T-34-3 being a planned alternate to the Type 59 may have some basis, it's probably impossible to say without more info how far it ever got. I believe China was very keen on scrapping and destroying their prototype tanks around that time and failed prototypes disappeared quite quickly. 

 

I suppose you could also argue it the other way round - it's really hard to prove the Tankopedia description wrong...



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View PostJelliedPenny08, on 20 November 2019 - 09:31 AM, said:

 

 

I suppose you could also argue it the other way round - it's really hard to prove the Tankopedia description wrong...

 

That's the negative truth fallacy. :-)






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