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Shockwave IIC #1 Posted 18 February 2019 - 02:06 PM

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Above are the results of a battle in my T23E3 (+20% Xp Bonus)

Battle Xp is 1697

Premium vehicle bonus shown is 509 (169.7 x2 then x1.5 for Premium Time)

Battle Xp with Premium time is 2545.5 which is the same as the Ops award (Bravo x2 Bonus)

Total xp (Not 100% visible) is 5601. Ie, 2545.5 x2 + 509.1 (Rounded up)

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Here is another example - Same tank

Battle Xp 991

Premium vehicle bonus shown is 297 (99.1 x2 then x1.5 for Premium time)

Battle Xp with Premium time is 1486.5 which is the same as the Ops award (Well once rounded up) (Bravo x2 Bonus)

Total xp (again Not 100% visible, why does the capture do that?) is 3271 (1487 x2 then add the 297 Premium vehicle bonus)

 

In BOTH cases the Premium vehicle bonus is NOT being counted for the x2 Winter Bravo Op

 


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It would be highly beneficial if we could get WGs explanation on this issue

MaxChaos24 #3 Posted 18 February 2019 - 03:03 PM

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All Ops are based on your Base*Premium account value. 

Shockwave IIC #4 Posted 18 February 2019 - 03:06 PM

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View PostMaxChaos24, on 18 February 2019 - 03:03 PM, said:

All Ops are based on your Base*Premium account value. 

 

Just so I Understand

 

You are saying that the Premium Vehicle Bonus is not counted by Ops and never has been....

 

If so, that would make running Premium Vehicles pointless if running Xp Ops.


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madmax-blackwolf #5 Posted 18 February 2019 - 04:48 PM

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509 in the first case and 297 in the second case - this is Premium vehicle bonus. and he counted in the general experience

 

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I do not understand where the panic comes from. you eventually counted everything. experience from tasks has always been considered from pure experience. or from the based/pure experience multiplied by the bonus of the premium account, if there is one. all other bonuses are added separately


Edited by madmax-blackwolf, 18 February 2019 - 05:23 PM.


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View PostShockwave IIC, on 18 February 2019 - 03:06 PM, said:

 

Just so I Understand

 

You are saying that the Premium Vehicle Bonus is not counted by Ops and never has been....

 

If so, that would make running Premium Vehicles pointless if running Xp Ops.

 

You don't say.  Shock, horror.

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View PostShockwave IIC, on 18 February 2019 - 05:06 PM, said:

Premium vehicle bonus shown is 297 (99.1 x2 then x1.5 for Premium time)

A - Battle XP (based xp)

P - Premium Account

T - Premium vehicle bonus

t1 - bonus multiplier of a premium tank (in the case of t23e3 it is 20% or x0.2)

 

T=(A*P)*t1      T=(991*1.5)*0.2=297  (in the second case)



madmax-blackwolf #8 Posted 18 February 2019 - 05:02 PM

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if you activate task x2 of experience, then in fact you’ll add as much experience as you got from battle xp and premium account xp. If you use the X5 booster, then you need to consider x4. wgw count so

GIXXERCON 13 #9 Posted 18 February 2019 - 05:56 PM

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View PostShockwave IIC, on 18 February 2019 - 09:06 AM, said:

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Above are the results of a battle in my T23E3 (+20% Xp Bonus)

Battle Xp is 1697

Premium vehicle bonus shown is 509 (169.7 x2 then x1.5 for Premium Time)

Battle Xp with Premium time is 2545.5 which is the same as the Ops award (Bravo x2 Bonus)

Total xp (Not 100% visible) is 5601. Ie, 2545.5 x2 + 509.1 (Rounded up)

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Here is another example - Same tank

Battle Xp 991

Premium vehicle bonus shown is 297 (99.1 x2 then x1.5 for Premium time)

Battle Xp with Premium time is 1486.5 which is the same as the Ops award (Well once rounded up) (Bravo x2 Bonus)

Total xp (again Not 100% visible, why does the capture do that?) is 3271 (1487 x2 then add the 297 Premium vehicle bonus)

 

In BOTH cases the Premium vehicle bonus is NOT being counted for the x2 Winter Bravo Op

Premium vehicle bonus is not multiplied by boost ops.

Just your Base Xp multiplied by the Op (no premium account)

If you have a premium account, it’s the Base Xp*1.5 then all bonuses are factored from this number

 

T23e3

1697 base xp

1697*1.5 premium account=(2545.5) 2546

 

2546*20% premium vehicle bonus=(509.2) 509

2546*x2 Winter Bravo=(5092-25462546

Add up all the underlined to get 5601 tank xp

 

This is your starting xp number for all calculations (daily multiplier, crew xp boosts, xp boosts, daily ops, etc). It can only be credited once and must be deducted from each multiplier.

This is also the amount you will receive credit for towards operations (ie:Making a Point, Mercenary Contract Phases) the only other “boost” effect that counts towards this would be daily multiplier.

Daily x5 at the beginning of Winter Games Alpha made the op a breeze just by hitting the Making a Point (25,000 xp) op from first win on each tank and moving on.

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991 base xp

991*1.5 premium time=(1486.5) 1487

 

1487*20% premium vehicle bonus=(297.4) 297

1487*x2 Winter Bravo Op= (5948-14871487

Total by adding the underlined 3271 tank xp

 

This number maintains the same instructions from the first match explaination.


Std. Tanks- Hellcat, T29, GwPanther, T-54 Ltwt, Pershing, AMX 50 100, IS-3, T49, Ru251, AMX13 90, M46 Patton, T-54, Obj. 430 II, E-75, M53/55, T-100 LT, M48 Patton, Cent. AX, E-50M, Leo 1, T-62a, Obj. 140, Obj. 430, Obj. 430U, T57 Heavy, T110E5, FV215b, Chieftain, S.Conq, E-100, AMX 50B, IS-7, IS-4, T110E4, T110E3, JPE-100, T92, GwE-100, B-C 155 58, Obj 261

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Shockwave IIC #10 Posted 18 February 2019 - 06:13 PM

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View PostGIXXERCON 13, on 18 February 2019 - 05:56 PM, said:

Premium vehicle bonus is not multiplied by boost ops.

Just your Base Xp multiplied by the Op (no premium account)

If you have a premium account, it’s the Base Xp*1.5 then all bonuses are factored from this number

 

T23e3

1697 base xp

1697*1.5 premium account=(2545.5) 2546

 

2546*20% premium vehicle bonus=(509.2) 509

2546*x2 Winter Bravo=(5092-25462546

Add up all the underlined to get 5601 tank xp

 

This is your starting xp number for all calculations (daily multiplier, crew xp boosts, xp boosts, daily ops, etc). It can only be credited once and must be deducted from each multiplier.

This is also the amount you will receive credit for towards operations (ie:Making a Point, Mercenary Contract Phases) the only other “boost” effect that counts towards this would be daily multiplier.

Daily x5 at the beginning of Winter Games Alpha made the op a breeze just by hitting the Making a Point (25,000 xp) op from first win on each tank and moving on.

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991 base xp

991*1.5 premium time=(1486.5) 1487

 

1487*20% premium vehicle bonus=(297.4) 297

1487*x2 Winter Bravo Op= (5948-14871487

Total by adding the underlined 3271 tank xp

 

This number maintains the same instructions from the first match explaination.

 

Oh, I agree it very much seems to be the case. But I was under the impression that the highlighted also included the PVB, and that combined total was the one that boost ops worked off of, I mean we've paid money (mostly) to get these premium vehicles, so i thought they were included (I swear they once were, but if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.)

 

What it boils down to I suppose, is that the PVB is basically a boost op, rather than base value multiplier. Ie, I thought that the PVB was more "valuable"


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View PostShockwave IIC, on 18 February 2019 - 01:13 PM, said:

Oh, I agree it very much seems to be the case. But I was under the impression that the highlighted also included the PVB, and that combined total was the one that boost ops worked off of, I mean we've paid money (mostly) to get these premium vehicles, so i thought they were included (I swear they once were, but if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.)

 

What it boils down to I suppose, is that the PVB is basically a boost op, rather than base value multiplier. Ie, I thought that the PVB was more "valuable"

When it came out that the Churchill III had a hidden xp bonus that was already factored into our displayed base xp, it caused a ton of confusion as to why people were placing so high on the leaderboards based on their performance.

 

Add in that Black tanks get a 75% bonus (5% boost to base xp and 70% actual bonus multiplier) and the xp starts rolling in...

Your 1697 base game in the T23e3 with PVB of 509 totals out at 5601

That same 1697 base in any Black tank has a PVB of 1782. Totaling 6874

 

To me, the real benefit of a premium tank comes in first win bonus.

Here is a sample of a single crew across 3 matches.

 

IS-7 (1000 base*1.5) x2 first win= 3000xp (4500 xp with winter bravo x2)

match 2 1000 base= 1500xp (3000xp)

match 3 1000 base= 1500xp (3000xp)

Total being 6000xp (10,500 with Winter Bravo)

8288 crew xp (14,504 crew xp)

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Now that same crew which starts in the IS-7 and is then transferred to premium tanks.

-IS-7 1000 base with first win= 3000xp (4500)

-Defender 1000 base first win= 3150 (4650)

-252u 1000 base first win= 3150 (4650)

Total being 9300xp (13,800 winter bravo)

12,846 crew xp (19,062crew xp from winter bravo)

 

Making a case for justification across just 3 battles:

8288 crew xp VS. 12,846 crew xp

or

14,504 VS. 19,062xp during Winter Bravo x2 every battle.

 

Long term is where the Premium vehicle bonus adds up.

Note that these numbers are based on Mentor and BIA with a 10.5% crew bonus and the IS-7 being in elite status.


Std. Tanks- Hellcat, T29, GwPanther, T-54 Ltwt, Pershing, AMX 50 100, IS-3, T49, Ru251, AMX13 90, M46 Patton, T-54, Obj. 430 II, E-75, M53/55, T-100 LT, M48 Patton, Cent. AX, E-50M, Leo 1, T-62a, Obj. 140, Obj. 430, Obj. 430U, T57 Heavy, T110E5, FV215b, Chieftain, S.Conq, E-100, AMX 50B, IS-7, IS-4, T110E4, T110E3, JPE-100, T92, GwE-100, B-C 155 58, Obj 261

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View PostShockwave IIC, on 18 February 2019 - 02:06 PM, said:

In BOTH cases the Premium vehicle bonus is NOT being counted for the x2 Winter Bravo Op

 

this is correct.

 

your daily double, your premium Tank XP, your ops  . . . . . . ..   they are all calculated off the Base+Premium time bonus . . . . . they are done separately & then added all together to make your final post-battle screen amount.

 

the only multiplers that work different to this are : Premium Tank Crew bonus, Premium/Elite ACT bonus, Mentor bonus.






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