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dzhey43 #21 Posted 19 February 2019 - 05:55 AM

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View PostGIXXERCON 13, on 19 February 2019 - 08:17 AM, said:

The math is absolute with being able to see the before and after crew xp. Max’s calculator is still active on my OneDrive and it looks like someone else has already done the math as I didn’t not input any of the numbers... the calculator is incorrect as it shows a total crew xp of 11,630 while my 1st and second screenshots clearly show a total crew xp of 11,735. My math stands correct.

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That calculator is wrong on every column.

Check my screenshots of before and after... for your own confirmation.

 

It shows 7203 as my total xp when my postgame shows 7017

1117 vs 931 for premium vehicle bonus

11,940 vs 11,735 for total crew xp.

Don’t even need a calculator to see that site doesn’t factor much correctly on premium tanks.

 

if it’s amx Chaffee than excel spreed[edited]is wrong, it shows 50% Xp bonus, however it is 60% and website is correct.
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dzhey43 #22 Posted 19 February 2019 - 05:57 AM

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So I guess all your math is wrong. Sorry. But you could math it again and probably find that extra xp)
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GG Gixxer.  I did my own check and verified your results.  Vents do NOT help.  Food does.  An extra 1% for spending the big $ on food.

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View Postdzhey43, on 18 February 2019 - 09:55 PM, said:

 

if it’s amx Chaffee than excel spreed[edited]is wrong, it shows 50% Xp bonus, however it is 60% and website is correct.

 

The other 10% isn't a tank XP bonus, but a BASE XP bonus.  Spreadsheet is correct on that point.  The 10% BASE XP bonus was added when they bumped the tank up to tier 7.

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GIXXERCON 13 #25 Posted 19 February 2019 - 06:09 AM

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View Postdzhey43, on 19 February 2019 - 12:55 AM, said:

if it’s amx Chaffee than excel spreed[edited]is wrong, it shows 50% Xp bonus, however it is 60% and website is correct.

View Postdzhey43, on 19 February 2019 - 12:57 AM, said:

So I guess all your math is wrong. Sorry. But you could math it again and probably find that extra xp)

I explained the math breakdown in my op.

AMX Chaffee has a 60% xp bonus.

Of which 10% is already factored into your base xp.

50% is the tank xp bonus

 

1241 base * 1.5 premium account= 1862 xp

Now to factor that 50% of that is the premium vehicle boost = 931xp

This number is confirmed in my Post game total xp screenshot under “premium vehicle bonus”

 

Just so you know... I made more xp than should have been, nothing to find as the math is correct.

 

View PostPontiac Pat, on 19 February 2019 - 01:00 AM, said:

GG Gixxer.  I did my own check and verified your results.  Vents to NOT help.  Food does.  An extra 1% for spending the big $ on food.

It’s a hidden benefit to factor usefulness of food... players who run it anyway for in-game performance reasons just get the added bonus with mentor.


Std. Tanks- Hellcat, T29, GwPanther, T-54 Ltwt, Pershing, AMX 50 100, IS-3, T49, Ru251, AMX13 90, M46 Patton, T-54, Obj. 430 II, E-75, M53/55, T-100 LT, M48 Patton, Cent. AX, E-50M, Leo 1, T-62a, Obj. 140, Obj. 430, Obj. 430U, T57 Heavy, T110E5, FV215b, Chieftain, S.Conq, E-100, AMX 50B, IS-7, IS-4, T110E4, T110E3, JPE-100, T92, GwE-100, B-C 155 58, Obj 261

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View PostPontiac Pat, on 19 February 2019 - 09:06 AM, said:

 

The other 10% isn't a tank XP bonus, but a BASE XP bonus.  Spreadsheet is correct on that point.  The 10% BASE XP bonus was added when they bumped the tank up to tier 7.

 

I’m NOT sure I understood you, sorry. Here is an error in xp earnings than? https://console.worldoftanks.com/ru/encyclopedia/vehicles/france/F224_AMX_Chaffee/

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View Postdzhey43, on 19 February 2019 - 01:11 AM, said:

I’m sure I understood you, sorry. Here is an error in xp earnings than? https://console.worldoftanks.com/ru/encyclopedia/vehicles/france/F224_AMX_Chaffee/

No. As it is still getting 60%... 10% of it is already factored into the base xp number you see at the end of a match.

This is nothing new as the Soviet Churchill III has a 78% xp modifier. 38% of that is factored into base xp in the same fashion and the remaining 40% xp comes after premium time.

The black tanks that have a 75% xp bonus even have 5% built into the base xp


Std. Tanks- Hellcat, T29, GwPanther, T-54 Ltwt, Pershing, AMX 50 100, IS-3, T49, Ru251, AMX13 90, M46 Patton, T-54, Obj. 430 II, E-75, M53/55, T-100 LT, M48 Patton, Cent. AX, E-50M, Leo 1, T-62a, Obj. 140, Obj. 430, Obj. 430U, T57 Heavy, T110E5, FV215b, Chieftain, S.Conq, E-100, AMX 50B, IS-7, IS-4, T110E4, T110E3, JPE-100, T92, GwE-100, B-C 155 58, Obj 261

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View PostPontiac Pat, on 19 February 2019 - 09:06 AM, said:

 

The other 10% isn't a tank XP bonus, but a BASE XP bonus.  Spreadsheet is correct on that point.  The 10% BASE XP bonus was added when they bumped the tank up to tier 7.

 

Well, I see. Is it the only tank with such xp earnings?
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View PostGIXXERCON 13, on 19 February 2019 - 09:15 AM, said:

No. As it is still getting 60%... 10% of it is already factored into the base xp number you see at the end of a match.

This is nothing new as the Soviet Churchill III has a 78% xp modifier. 38% of that is factored into base xp in the same fashion and the remaining 40% xp comes after premium time.

The black tanks that have a 75% xp bonus even have 5% built into the base xp

 

I did not knew it. How could we see these 38 of 78?
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View Postdzhey43, on 19 February 2019 - 01:21 AM, said:

I did not knew it. How could we see these 38 of 78?

Unfortunately the only way to actually confirm it would be to look at postgame stats.

Base xp * 1.5= number to be multiplied by the tank xp modifier.

Then multiply by the tank xp multiplier (listed in tankopedia) and you will have the same number as listed in “premium vehicle bonus”

If your number is higher then take 5% off till the number matches.

This will confirm how much is already factored into your base xp.

 

If you actually own the Churchill III, just do the math after a match

base xp * 1.5 * 0.4= a 40% xp boost as listed in “premium vehicle bonus”


Std. Tanks- Hellcat, T29, GwPanther, T-54 Ltwt, Pershing, AMX 50 100, IS-3, T49, Ru251, AMX13 90, M46 Patton, T-54, Obj. 430 II, E-75, M53/55, T-100 LT, M48 Patton, Cent. AX, E-50M, Leo 1, T-62a, Obj. 140, Obj. 430, Obj. 430U, T57 Heavy, T110E5, FV215b, Chieftain, S.Conq, E-100, AMX 50B, IS-7, IS-4, T110E4, T110E3, JPE-100, T92, GwE-100, B-C 155 58, Obj 261

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View PostGIXXERCON 13, on 19 February 2019 - 09:26 AM, said:

If you actually own the Churchill III, just do the math after a match

base xp * 1.5 * 0.4= a 40% xp boost as listed in “premium vehicle bonus”

Got it, thanks! I will compare both calcs. But I don’t see the point why is it needed? Why they write 78% and add only 40%? Does it means that base xp of this tanks is 38% boosted or what?


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View Postdzhey43, on 19 February 2019 - 01:58 AM, said:

Got it, thanks! I will compare both calcs. But I don’t see the point why is it needed? Why they write 78% and add only 40%?

>>>>Does it means that base xp of this tanks is 38% boosted or what?<<<<

Yes, exactly this.


Std. Tanks- Hellcat, T29, GwPanther, T-54 Ltwt, Pershing, AMX 50 100, IS-3, T49, Ru251, AMX13 90, M46 Patton, T-54, Obj. 430 II, E-75, M53/55, T-100 LT, M48 Patton, Cent. AX, E-50M, Leo 1, T-62a, Obj. 140, Obj. 430, Obj. 430U, T57 Heavy, T110E5, FV215b, Chieftain, S.Conq, E-100, AMX 50B, IS-7, IS-4, T110E4, T110E3, JPE-100, T92, GwE-100, B-C 155 58, Obj 261

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Well, I have mentor 100% train on most all of my tanks, Food You say .....hmm,   I will see how I can work that into my current grinds.  It costly  
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View PostTocFanKe4, on 19 February 2019 - 05:39 AM, said:

Mentor is worthless. You're always a skill down.

 

View PostTocFanKe4, on 19 February 2019 - 05:41 AM, said:

 

WRONG .....You couldn't be more wrong. You're missing out on tons of XP over the long haul. You definitely come out far ahead. 

 

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So the big question:

Does this mean the game mechanics will change so Food no longer boosts mentor?

Will Vents be changed so it does boost mentor? And all other active crew skills?

Or will things just remain as is where Vents are not equal to food and BIA?


Std. Tanks- Hellcat, T29, GwPanther, T-54 Ltwt, Pershing, AMX 50 100, IS-3, T49, Ru251, AMX13 90, M46 Patton, T-54, Obj. 430 II, E-75, M53/55, T-100 LT, M48 Patton, Cent. AX, E-50M, Leo 1, T-62a, Obj. 140, Obj. 430, Obj. 430U, T57 Heavy, T110E5, FV215b, Chieftain, S.Conq, E-100, AMX 50B, IS-7, IS-4, T110E4, T110E3, JPE-100, T92, GwE-100, B-C 155 58, Obj 261

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PAINGOD stated that the Waffle won't be removed... He didn't state that it will be staying at tier X.


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Good question.

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View PostTocFanKe4, on 19 February 2019 - 05:43 AM, said:

There. That should prime this to be the normal mentor thread horror show. :trollface:

 

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 Interesting discuss.

Thanks GIXXERCON 13 for your investigation.

 

 


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