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John Arrowsmith #1 Posted 05 March 2019 - 11:31 AM

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I'm not sure of the time frame of the ST restructure,  but from what I can tell tanks are now being added to the game in a more sensible state,  sometimes underpowered (M4 improved which was quickly rectified) rather than adding broken monstrosities.

 

So I'm not sure if this is down to the new Super testers doing a better job or wg doing a more sensible thing,   but whichever it is, i think it's the right thing to be doing. 

 

 

 

While what I say might be,  or might not be true.  Something has changed in the approach to adding content to the game.  Hopefully in future the overall balance might be improved. 

 

 

 


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Progetto:

 

Console: 10.6 / 11.6 / 14.6sec

PC: 7.67 / 8.63 / 11.51s

 

Tell me how this is sensible. 


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XGNgiveitT0ya #3 Posted 05 March 2019 - 11:36 AM

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What are some recently added tanks that you think are underperforming or need a buff?

John Arrowsmith #4 Posted 05 March 2019 - 11:37 AM

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View PostTanksForNothing, on 05 March 2019 - 11:36 AM, said:

What are some recently added tanks that you think are underperforming or need a buff?

 

I listed 1 in the original post.

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FusionStar287 #5 Posted 05 March 2019 - 11:38 AM

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I appreciate the fact that WG have be releasing fewer OP tanks although I feel like they've gone to far in the opposite direction. I mean, tanks like the K-91 and the Progetto (assuming the stats we saw for it are correct) have been nerfed to the point of being obsolete.

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John Arrowsmith #6 Posted 05 March 2019 - 11:39 AM

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View PostNuke2099, on 05 March 2019 - 11:36 AM, said:

Progetto:

 

Console: 10.6 / 11.6 / 14.6sec

PC: 7.67 / 8.63 / 11.51s

 

Tell me how this is sensible. 

 

The site displaying these numbers has been nuked. 

 

As said in the other thread,  it's easier to buff a premium than it is to nerf a premium due to outrage.


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View PostJohn Arrowsmith, on 05 March 2019 - 11:37 AM, said:

 

I listed 1 in the original post.

Well can you list it again for anyone who may not be familiar with said post?



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View PostJohn Arrowsmith, on 05 March 2019 - 11:39 AM, said:

 

The site displaying these numbers has been nuked. 

 

As said in the other thread,  it's easier to buff a premium than it is to nerf a premium due to outrage.

 

But when will they buff it? A year's time when no one will care? Also the site is under maintenance. I really doubt these values are wrong but I would love to be wrong on this. Because right now the Progetto won't be able to compete well unless you happen to be a really good player but then a good player can make anything work...eventually. 
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View PostFusionStar287, on 05 March 2019 - 11:38 AM, said:

I appreciate the fact that WG have be releasing fewer OP tanks although I feel like they've gone to far in the opposite direction. I mean, tanks like the K-91 and the Progetto (assuming the stats we saw for it are correct) have been nerfed to the point of being obsolete.

 

I've not played played the K-91 but if it's as bad as many say it is I can't imagine it will be long before its buffed,   it is Russian after all:teethhappy:

 

As for the Progetto,  if those numbers were correct,  perhaps wg have made a mistake and are rectifying the numbers. Only time will tell but they didn't seem to hang about with the M4 improved.   


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View PostTanksForNothing, on 05 March 2019 - 11:42 AM, said:

Well can you list it again for anyone who may not be familiar with said post?

 

Is it really that hard to scroll to the top of the page and read a few lines? 

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Wow that’s over 36 seconds to reload a clip .   I hope it has preferential matchmaking :D

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View PostNuke2099, on 05 March 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

 

But when will they buff it? A year's time when no one will care? Also the site is under maintenance. I really doubt these values are wrong but I would love to be wrong on this. Because right now the Progetto won't be able to compete well unless you happen to be a really good player but then a good player can make anything work...eventually. 

 

It didn't take them long to add pmm to the M4 improved. 

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Easier to buff a tank post release than nerf it if it over performs, due to customer backlash.

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View PostJohn Arrowsmith, on 05 March 2019 - 06:43 AM, said:

 

I've not played played the K-91 but if it's as bad as many say it is I can't imagine it will be long before its buffed,   it is Russian after all:teethhappy:

 

As for the Progetto,  if those numbers were correct,  perhaps wg have made a mistake and are rectifying the numbers. Only time will tell but they didn't seem to hang about with the M4 improved.   

I don't know, it's been a few months now and nothing about it has changed. Besides, there really shouldn't have been any reason for it being released as it is in the first place, considering that it's just flat out worse in almost every regard when compared to the T62A and Object 140. At the very least I do feel like they did a good job at balancing tanks like the Object 430U.


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View PostJohn Arrowsmith, on 05 March 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

 

I've not played played the K-91 but if it's as bad as many say it is I can't imagine it will be long before its buffed,   it is Russian after all:teethhappy:

 

As for the Progetto,  if those numbers were correct,  perhaps wg have made a mistake and are rectifying the numbers. Only time will tell but they didn't seem to hang about with the M4 improved.   

 

K-91 is like a 416 (great tier 8 btw) at tier 10 with less mobility and less camo. It's rather [edited]. The DPM nerf harmed it greatly especially since it's supposed to be part of the DPM line of Russian mediums. 
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View PostJohn Arrowsmith, on 05 March 2019 - 12:45 PM, said:

 

It didn't take them long to add pmm to the M4 improved. 

 

I just don't get the Improved M4....What is improved? The M4 with 76mm or 105mm eats it for breakfast.


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View PostJohn Arrowsmith, on 05 March 2019 - 11:39 AM, said:

As said in the other thread,  it's easier to buff a premium than it is to nerf a premium due to outrage.

 

I do agree with that but part of me fears that the tank won't ever get a buff even if it needs one (M4 Improved is a special exception but even then did it after the sale as some would have bought it in a Buffed state but missed out). I'm still getting the Progetto regardless and i'm not going to cry or moan about the Nerfs to the Tank. I just hope WG are prepared to Buff it, if it needs it.

 

Tanks like the K-91 needs a Buff as the Object 430U (Which i expect to get nerfed) far outclasses it in every class except Shell Velocity and Penetration and i feel Object 268 v4 needs a Speed Buff by 10 kph to make it different from T110E3 but worse mobility than the Object 263. K-91 if i had to choose one though.



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It is 6:40 am my time and both the game server and main portal are down for maintenance. That's over 4 hours past the normal time for my neck of the woods. Is the topic of this thread the reason or does anybody know whats up?

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View PostPYLE33, on 05 March 2019 - 11:52 AM, said:

It is 6:40 am my time and both the game server and main portal are down for maintenance. That's over 4 hours past the normal time for my neck of the woods. Is the topic of this thread the reason or does anybody know whats up?

 

Servers only been down 2 hours, 3 minimum was stated yesterday.

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i highly doubt super testers would be reccomending a 10.6 second reload on the 1st shell js




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