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Progetto Massive -27.36% DPM Nerf

Nerf me harder Daddy Progetto Need better Prego Nerfed

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Unholy Lucipurr #1 Posted 05 March 2019 - 12:23 PM

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Reload:10.6/ 11.6/ 14.6

DPM:  1358.49/ 1241.38/ 986.30

 

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Reload: 7.7/ 8.6/ 11.5

DPM:  1870.13/ 1674.42/ 1252.17

 

So effectively, the Progetto on console has one of the worst if not the absolute worst DPM of tier 8 vehicles.  The max level of DPM it holds whilst holding 2 shots in its clip is just short of 1400, which is on par with tier 4 and 5 medium tanks.  This comes out to about -27.36% of a nerf from the PC version, which is absolutely ludicrous in my opinion.  But I'm sure there are some 'enlightened' folks around here who will vigorously defend this nerf.

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Very Classy #2 Posted 05 March 2019 - 12:30 PM

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Dangetto, WGetto! Why you hadda nerfetto da Progetto? Itsa poor little bambino.

FusionStar287 #3 Posted 05 March 2019 - 12:33 PM

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You'll be hard pressed to find anyone who defends this nerf. I'm still holding out hope that the original article is wrong though.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAAA! What a way to stop people buying a tank!

Thanks WG....saved me an overpriced wad of cash :coin:


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Unholy Lucipurr #5 Posted 05 March 2019 - 12:34 PM

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View PostFusionStar287, on 05 March 2019 - 07:33 AM, said:

You'll be hard pressed to find anyone who defends this nerf. I'm still holding out hope that the original article is wrong though.

 

There are those out there who get down n dirty and plain nasty to defend nerfs like these.  No need to name such as most here are probably aware.

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View PostFusionStar287, on 05 March 2019 - 01:33 PM, said:

You'll be hard pressed to find anyone who defends this nerf. I'm still holding out hope that the original article is wrong though.

 

I defend just about any nerf WG does to freshly released vehicles, but not this one.

Very Classy #7 Posted 05 March 2019 - 12:37 PM

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Well, I guess, definitely cannot use Optics... have to roll with Rammer and Vents and Spaghetti... any and everything to get the reload down. 

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View PostUnholy Lucipurr, on 05 March 2019 - 12:23 PM, said:

Console   

Reload:10.6/ 11.6/ 14.6

DPM:  1358.49/ 1241.38/ 986.30

 

PC             

Reload: 7.7/ 8.6/ 11.5

DPM:  1870.13/ 1674.42/ 1252.17

 

So effectively, the Progetto on console has one of the worst if not the absolute worst DPM of tier 8 vehicles.  The max level of DPM it holds whilst holding 2 shots in its clip is just short of 1400, which is on par with tier 4 and 5 medium tanks.  This comes out to about -27.36% of a nerf from the PC version, which is absolutely ludicrous in my opinion.  But I'm sure there are some 'enlightened' folks around here who will vigorously defend this nerf.

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but 1870 isn't really correct though as you can dump your clip at the end of the minute for roughly 2400. 

 

The Nerf is still dumb



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Are the numbers confirmed?  

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View PostPinkishOcean430, on 05 March 2019 - 07:39 AM, said:

 

but 1870 isn't really correct though as you can dump your clip at the end of the minute for roughly 2400. 

 

The Nerf is still dumb

 

The DPM calculations posted were simply based off of the reload value per shell interval.  Would be a bit of extra work to show situational dpm but I'l leave that to someone else if they wish to do so.

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Is anyone really surprised that it came neutered though?.   The Pudel/Wojtek came nerfed as well as the 50tp, the polish tech tree, the new Russian tanks added last year, 252u/defender etc.    

I’m not sure why the Progetto came neutered as the PC version is not even considered OP.

WGCB saved me money.   There is absolutely zero reason to even nerf tank from the PC version.

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View PostJohn Arrowsmith, on 05 March 2019 - 07:39 AM, said:

Are the numbers confirmed?  

The tank is in the store, but I'm not about to waste my gold on it just to see if those numbers are true or not.


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View PostUnholy Lucipurr, on 05 March 2019 - 01:42 PM, said:

The DPM calculations posted were simply based off of the reload value per shell interval. Would be a bit of extra work to show situational dpm but I'l leave that to someone else if they wish to do so.

 

Overall DPM on full clips is 1060, just about the same as the AMX 12 t.

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View PostFuzzySquirrel21, on 05 March 2019 - 01:44 PM, said:

The Pudel/Wojtek came nerfed

 

I did? Doesn't matter, still a very capable tank.

 

View PostFuzzySquirrel21, on 05 March 2019 - 01:44 PM, said:

252u/defender

 

Still a strong contender for the best heavy tank of the tier, so that was a very appropriate nerf.

 

View PostFuzzySquirrel21, on 05 March 2019 - 01:44 PM, said:

I’m not sure why the Progetto came neutered as the PC version is not even considered OP.

 

There are several Youtubers who consider this to be the strongest tier VIII medium in the game, along with the Lorraine.



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Am I wrong, but before you could see reload time for whole clip for every autoloader, now that is gone?!?

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One guy get it and check live. Last shell reload is 8,94 - that number shows on hud when third shell is reloaded. Hmm, looks that numbers in news info are wrong still.

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That will show you statpadders :teethhappy: Personally still think it will sell well. 

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View PostTroipP, on 05 March 2019 - 01:54 PM, said:

One guy get it and check live. Last shell reload is 8,94 - that number shows on hud when third shell is reloaded. Hmm, looks that numbers in news info are wrong still.

 

What equipment/skills does he use?

TroipP #19 Posted 05 March 2019 - 01:01 PM

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Told us that none.

View Postkorbendallas-01, on 05 March 2019 - 01:57 PM, said:

 

What equipment/skills does he use?

 

Told us that none.

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View Postkorbendallas-01, on 05 March 2019 - 12:57 PM, said:

 

What equipment/skills does he use?

 

First Italian tank so you could guess at none for skills.






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