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Robs Headache #1 Posted 14 March 2019 - 07:14 PM

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Hi, looking for advice on the best setup for the AMX 1390.

I have had good success running Vents, optics and Vstabs on all my French tank up to now.  Would this be a good set up for this tank or as this is at tier nine, do I need to change my standard set up 



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Same again. Add a healthy amount of WN8 rounds and food, and you're good to go.

Kaboost #3 Posted 14 March 2019 - 09:38 PM

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Yes go with with that or swap vents for GLD.

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P6X330 #4 Posted 15 March 2019 - 01:37 PM

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I propose a little bit of literature on the 13-90; not exhaustive, but informative.

 

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View PostRobs Headache, on 14 March 2019 - 07:14 PM, said:

Hi, looking for advice on the best setup for the AMX 1390.

I have had good success running Vents, optics and Vstabs on all my French tank up to now.  Would this be a good set up for this tank or as this is at tier nine, do I need to change my standard set up 

 

That's the best setup for the tank. Works perfectly for the tier 10 as well ,just make sure to have a solid crew for it. 

 

View PostKaboost, on 14 March 2019 - 09:38 PM, said:

Yes go with with that or swap vents for GLD.

 

Definitively not, gld is a waste of an equipment slot.

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Kaboost #6 Posted 18 March 2019 - 06:23 PM

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View PostKaboost, on 14 March 2019 - 03:38 PM, said:

Yes go with with that or swap vents for GLD.

 

View PostBaardgier, on 18 March 2019 - 12:06 PM, said:

Definitively not, gld is a waste of an equipment slot.

 

Except it’s not, will help you land your shots and be exposed for a shorter time which is very important. Would still go with vents but it’s far from useless on auto loaders.


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View PostBaardgier, on 18 March 2019 - 12:06 PM, said:

Definitively not, gld is a waste of an equipment slot.

 

View PostKaboost, on 18 March 2019 - 12:23 PM, said:

Except it’s not, will help you land your shots and be exposed for a shorter time which is very important. Would still go with vents but it’s far from useless on auto loaders.

 

So we have two different opinions on the effectiveness of the gun laying drive.

 

Both are correct, but they have to be in context.

 

The 13-90 equipped with the 75mm gun has an aiming time of 2.3" for 0.36 of accuracy.

The 13-90 equipped with the 90mm gun has an aiming time of 2.7" for 0.38 of accuracy.

 

While you may be better off with Vents with the 75mm, you may want to consider GLD with the 90mm gun.

One of the reason was proposed by Kaboost; the longer you aim, the longer you expose yourself, unless you are undetected. You are less vulnerable if you are able to snap shots at your enemies.

Another reason, your target is informed when you are aiming at them, and it may retreat to cover. Your aiming time and the accuracy becomes the difference between hit or miss in this case. With poorer accuracy, you need to aim longer to hit.

Ultimately, you may or may not need GLD, because you are going to play your 13-90 in such a way that you only need to shoot at close range.

 

I have the Tusk. Its aim time is 3.3 seconds nominal. The accuracy is 0.5m @100m; I have been in situations with shooting at close range, I missed. Using GLD made a difference, combined with BiA.

 

I suggest that you try it out. Swap Vents for GLD, you are going to use 10 Gold, but you will evaluate the difference for that particular tank.


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View PostKaboost, on 18 March 2019 - 06:23 PM, said:

 

 

Except it’s not, will help you land your shots and be exposed for a shorter time which is very important. Would still go with vents but it’s far from useless on auto loaders.

View PostP6X330, on 18 March 2019 - 09:07 PM, said:

 

 

So we have two different opinions on the effectiveness of the gun laying drive.

 

Both are correct, but they have to be in context.

 

The 13-90 equipped with the 75mm gun has an aiming time of 2.3" for 0.36 of accuracy.

The 13-90 equipped with the 90mm gun has an aiming time of 2.7" for 0.38 of accuracy.

 

While you may be better off with Vents with the 75mm, you may want to consider GLD with the 90mm gun.

One of the reason was proposed by Kaboost; the longer you aim, the longer you expose yourself, unless you are undetected. You are less vulnerable if you are able to snap shots at your enemies.

Another reason, your target is informed when you are aiming at them, and it may retreat to cover. Your aiming time and the accuracy becomes the difference between hit or miss in this case. With poorer accuracy, you need to aim longer to hit.

Ultimately, you may or may not need GLD, because you are going to play your 13-90 in such a way that you only need to shoot at close range.

 

I have the Tusk. Its aim time is 3.3 seconds nominal. The accuracy is 0.5m @100m; I have been in situations with shooting at close range, I missed. Using GLD made a difference, combined with BiA.

 

I suggest that you try it out. Swap Vents for GLD, you are going to use 10 Gold, but you will evaluate the difference for that particular tank.

 

13 90 with the 90mm has a 2.73 seconds interclip reload and a 2.7 second aim time making GLD completely irrelevant. Especially considering that GLD only works at 100% effectiveness when you're neither turning your hull or turret, or moving for that matter. This doesn't even begin to talk about the ridiculous on the move gun handling that the 13 90 currently has, which continues to make GLD a waste of equipment.


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View PostBaardgier, on 18 March 2019 - 03:16 PM, said:

 

13 90 with the 90mm has a 2.73 seconds interclip reload and a 2.7 second aim time making GLD completely irrelevant. Especially considering that GLD only works at 100% effectiveness when you're neither turning your hull or turret, or moving for that matter. This doesn't even begin to talk about the ridiculous on the move gun handling that the 13 90 currently has, which continues to make GLD a waste of equipment.

 

GLD would still help with the first shot and the 13 90 in my garage says it’s intra-clip reload is 2.22 seconds. That’s half a second before you’re done aiming.

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PumpkinEcobar #10 Posted 19 March 2019 - 12:35 AM

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I run my French scouts with optics, camo net and binos. I know the binos and optics don't stack, I just like being ready for any scouting situation.

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View PostKaboost, on 18 March 2019 - 09:32 PM, said:

 

GLD would still help with the first shot and the 13 90 in my garage says it’s intra-clip reload is 2.22 seconds. That’s half a second before you’re done aiming.

 

Ah well, must've changed it since I last played the tank. Either way GLD isn't going to make enough a difference because you have to be entirely stationary to get the full effect, which would mean binos and camo net or you're just a sitting duck.

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View PostKaboost, on 14 March 2019 - 10:38 PM, said:

Yes go with with that or swap vents for GLD.

 

Remember that GLD is only useful if you are stationary.

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View PostKaboost, on 18 March 2019 - 10:32 PM, said:

GLD would still help with the first shot and the 13 90 in my garage says it’s intra-clip reload is 2.22 seconds. That’s half a second before you’re done aiming.

 

Good point.

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View Postkorbendallas-01, on 19 March 2019 - 06:44 AM, said:

 

Remember that GLD is only useful if you are stationary.

 

I’m aware of that. I usually have the camo/view range to stop and shoot. I personally have it on mine and put up great numbers.

 

Just trying to defend GLD, it’s not completely useless on auto loaders or tanks with over 3 seconds aim times like a lot of people think.


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View PostKaboost, on 19 March 2019 - 12:51 PM, said:

 

I’m aware of that. I usually have the camo/view range to stop and shoot. I personally have it on mine and put up great numbers.

 

Just trying to defend GLD, it’s not completely useless on auto loaders or tanks with over 3 seconds aim times like a lot of people think.

 

It's not a matter of completely useless, it's a matter of having far better options for the tank.

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View PostBaardgier, on 19 March 2019 - 01:55 AM, said:

 

Ah well, must've changed it since I last played the tank. Either way GLD isn't going to make enough a difference because you have to be entirely stationary to get the full effect, which would mean binos and camo net or you're just a sitting duck.

 

This would be my issue with running GLD on this tank - the 13 90 should really be on the move most of the time (if not always), which renders the GLD/Net/Binos useless. I never really saw this tank as a bush camping sniper light. Also, I would be exremely reluctant to giv eup the Vents since they are helping the reload speed, and I would be even more reluctant to give up the Optics or Verts. 

 

I've unlocked all three Tier X's from the 13 90 incidentally managing a 2-mark along the way. Ran the Optics, Verts, and Vents with a 100% Prammo loadout (Silver be damned). 






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