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Old mane swag #1 Posted 21 March 2019 - 12:00 AM

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Just a quick question will 3,5,7  ever be implemented onto the console me personally I would love it because I mostly play tier 10 and I love to ruin tier 8s :):)

Joco3000 #2 Posted 21 March 2019 - 12:03 AM

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And this is probably why we won't be getting it.

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Hopefully not.

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Old mane swag #4 Posted 21 March 2019 - 12:05 AM

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I can only hope so.

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ThermalStone #6 Posted 21 March 2019 - 12:10 AM

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I've heard from PC players that it's terrible.  Tier 8, where many players have to play premium tanks to make money, gets crapped on.  If one or two of your top tier tanks are AFK or just bad, your team is screwed. 

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You already get to do that on a regular basis. You don't need 3/5/7 to kick seals.

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I sense a troll thread :hiding:

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Novaenergy2 #9 Posted 21 March 2019 - 12:20 AM

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Eeyup, that’s gonna be a hard pass from me.

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Never gonna fly true with 5-player platoons.


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HomicidalApple0 #11 Posted 21 March 2019 - 12:36 AM

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I don’t think so, they’ve already explained how they are trying to work that 3/5/7 on pc and i believe console is waiting to see what PC gets to work well and will go from there

But OPs point of wanting to dump on tier 8s is why it doesn’t work.

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Never is a strong word. But I'm sure something close is coming. A Popular pc streamer (Circonflexes) suggested flipping the format. It was projected to work quite well. Instead of 3,5,7, It was 7,5,3. Which was more favorable, On tier 8's.

                                                                                                               

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Forcing a tier spread seems a bad idea to me. 

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View PostSGT Rock 1963, on 21 March 2019 - 12:40 AM, said:

Never is a strong word. But I'm sure something close is coming. I forgot which Popular pc streamer suggested flipping the format. But it was projected to work quite well. Instead of 3,5,7, It was 7,5,3. Which was more favorable, On tier 8's.

If we had to have something like that implemented I feel like 7/5/3 seems better. 

 

I can just see with our population on console getting as low as it does sometimes that this could be hard to make work. Guess we shall see what WGC consoles up with 



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View PostThermalStone, on 21 March 2019 - 12:10 AM, said:

I've heard from PC players that it's terrible.  Tier 8, where many players have to play premium tanks to make money, gets crapped on.  If one or two of your top tier tanks are AFK or just bad, your team is screwed. 

3/5/7 is not terrible, and majority of pc players actually like it. Especially after some buffs to pmm premium tanks.

 

Furthermore from reading this post it seems like some people thinking that you would be locked in that bracket which couldn’t be farther from the truth...3/5/7 would be the worst case scenario for mm for those 2 tiers down. That is it. You would still have a good odds ending in the same tier or one tier difference game... just in the worst case scenario you’d be guaranteed that you will not be fighting more than three thanks two tiers above you. 

 

So no if you are tier 10 player you would not be crapping on 8 all the time because you would end up in a lot of tier 10 only or tier 10 and 9 only games. 

 

The biggest flaws of that matchmaking system are two things: 1) It completely devalues tanks with the preferential matchmaking, they will be forced to play two tiers above and as you can imagine they will not fare too well in those unless buffed 2) You will be playing more games two tiers down then and the only bright side of that is thay you will be guaranteed that there will be only three tanks two tiers above you in that game.

 

I know pc is looking at some impovements for this mm, so I assume it could arrive to console eventually and after more work and testing is done to it.

 



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Never.

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View PostDesantnik81, on 21 March 2019 - 02:57 AM, said:

3/5/7 is not terrible, and majority of pc players actually like it. Especially after some buffs to pmm premium tanks.

 

Furthermore from reading this post it seems like some people thinking that you would be locked in that bracket which couldn’t be farther from the truth...3/5/7 would be the worst case scenario for mm for those 2 tiers down. That is it. You would still have a good odds ending in the same tier or one tier difference game... just in the worst case scenario you’d be guaranteed that you will not be fighting more than three thanks two tiers above you. 

 

So no if you are tier 10 player you would not be crapping on 8 all the time because you would end up in a lot of tier 10 only or tier 10 and 9 only games. 

 

The biggest flaws of that matchmaking system are two things: 1) It completely devalues tanks with the preferential matchmaking, they will be forced to play two tiers above and as you can imagine they will not fare too well in those unless buffed 2) You will be playing more games two tiers down then and the only bright side of that is thay you will be guaranteed that there will be only three tanks two tiers above you in that game.

 

I know pc is looking at some impovements for this mm, so I assume it could arrive to console eventually and after more work and testing is done to it.

 

 

Not sure how you can claim that when WG themselves said that it utterly craps on non PMM Tier 8's. PMM Tier 8's frequently steal most the Tier 9's to fill their games out leaving the standard tier 8's to be put in tier 10 games because there is not enough 9's in the ques to have only tier 9/ 10 games. Notable youtubes have pointed this out many times and WG have admitted it.


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God I hope not. 357 is the worst change on wot pc right after the arty stun mechanic and one of the main reasons I seldom play pc wot nowadays.
Believe it or not, I much prefer console mm even if it's far from being perfect.

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genroul RAAM #19 Posted 21 March 2019 - 10:21 AM

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As others have said, 3/5/7 is great on paper but not so great in practice.

Imo, a fun way to fix matchmaking would be to incoorperate more one-tier only events. (ex: Frontline mode)


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Let’s see...  Be in lots of tier 10 games in my tier 8, where almost every other tank is a 10.  Or...  Be in lots of tier 10 matches in my tier 8’s where there are only 3 10’s and 5 9’s?  I’m down.





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