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Mr_Naemless #1 Posted 24 March 2019 - 08:57 PM

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The Hatch on top of the AMX 30 B.

 

Why?

 

Something so simple makes the AMX 30 tier 9 better....

 

 

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Very Classy #2 Posted 24 March 2019 - 09:33 PM

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The Great Balancing of '18... far reaching implications on vehicles few played... and now no one plays. GG, WoTC!

Mr_Naemless #3 Posted 24 March 2019 - 10:46 PM

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All I see are AMX 30 tier 9.

When I see a tier 10 I look up their stats on it and it's always very low lol



Very Classy #4 Posted 24 March 2019 - 11:00 PM

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I can't remember the last time I saw an AMX 30 1er Prot. Of course, I haven’t seen that many 30Bs either. As a response to your other thread, I, too, would welcome more variety in Tier X vehicles... #UnnerfTheNerfs

Kaboost #5 Posted 24 March 2019 - 11:07 PM

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Yep just finished the tier 9 AMX 30, probably won’t ever buy the tier 10. It’s sad looking at their PC stats compared to ours.

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P6X330 #6 Posted 25 March 2019 - 01:13 PM

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And to prove you wrong, I was recently in a battle with an outstanding AMX 30B, top of the board, several kills.

 

I do not have my own opinion on it, as I had started to unlock all the packages of the Tier IX when the tank got neutered. The story reminded me of the AMX ELC bis.

 

I will purchase both 30's at some point in the future, but they are only contingency now. I am in no more hurry to have them in my tank park.


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x Papadox #7 Posted 25 March 2019 - 01:33 PM

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But the hatch isn't the focus of the turret, so the frontal armor needed a buff... *sarcasm* 


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Choco14Chain214 #8 Posted 25 March 2019 - 09:58 PM

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Have a good amount of battles in the 30 and one marked it, not bad even lately .. I just bought the 30b and have been really liking it too, about 100ish battles and doing about the same but the level of players the ran its stats must be huge because 3500 damaga get you a 3 badge and I'm only about 57% to the first moe ... That alone tells you way they nerfed it if above average players are ripping off 5k games on average 

 

I like the 30b as it is right now.... Not saying it wasn't better before but I'm average and it seems to work. Slightly better and more consistent than the tier 9 30amx. .. . The tier 10 reload is a full second faster and helps a ton with dpm

 


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Sweat Hog Swami #9 Posted 25 June 2019 - 06:34 PM

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I don't know why, but my 30B never pens. .32 accuracy, yet the gun handles like a .50. I struggle to ever do damage. I always hit tracks or miss all together. It should be an excellent tank, but I get RNG trolled in this thing like no other tank I own. Shoot premium? Sure, and watch those auto bounce and miss their mark too. I've dumped 60k in a game on this tank with poor results. I just shake my head every time I play it.

Mahrs #10 Posted 26 June 2019 - 12:54 AM

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The gun handling on the AMX 30 is one reason I can see myself grinding the 13-90/105 instead...it’s just so much worse than it should be. The Leopard 1, for example, beats it at EVERYTHING on paper (RoF/reload/DPM, std pen, prammo pen, aim time, accuracy). Some of those are marginal for the Leopard, but the 20mm of pen is significant I would say. The Leopard is the more agile chassis, same advertised speed and camo.  The AMX gets...150mm of turret armor and marginally faster turret traverse to offset all that. 

 

I’ve got to assume there are some very good soft stats for the AMX 30B I’m not seeing - I’ve always wanted it because it’s cool. 



BrendenF-99 #11 Posted 26 June 2019 - 03:14 AM

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View PostSweat Hog Swami, on 25 June 2019 - 06:34 PM, said:

I don't know why, but my 30B never pens. .32 accuracy, yet the gun handles like a .50. I struggle to ever do damage. I always hit tracks or miss all together. It should be an excellent tank, but I get RNG trolled in this thing like no other tank I own. Shoot premium? Sure, and watch those auto bounce and miss their mark too. I've dumped 60k in a game on this tank with poor results. I just shake my head every time I play it.

 

i know why the 30B never pens, 248 average pen on standard shells and only 300 on the heat, that 20mm less pen on the standard shells and 40mm less on the HEAT when compared to most of the other tier 10 mediums, the are tier 8 tanks that have better penetration in the game than the 30B, such as the the Russian Object 430 tier 8 which has 330 HEAT pen, a shame since the AMX 30 B in real life had really good penetration, go have a look at the in-game description about the tank it says the tank has " effective anti-tank engagement distance superior to all other vehicles except the leopard 1"

Funny it even says that "technological advances in anti-tank shells had essentially rendered armor obsolete" and that "survivability would depend on Mobility and firepower". now the in-game version of the tank priorities mobility and armor and completely forgets about firepower.



Funktastic Ed #12 Posted 26 June 2019 - 08:17 AM

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Yeah sure Bat-Chat and AMX13 105  were way better than the AMX30-B.

So much better that the French defense department have chosen to equip their army with...AMX30-B.

Because they like to suck on battlefields….duh...

 

Really Wargaming devs, use your brain a little bit on this.


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P6X330 #13 Posted 28 June 2019 - 12:59 PM

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Yesterday, I unlocked the package that gives access to the AMX 30B, using my free XP. Remains the optional engine, which I don't really need since I have not even purchased the AMX 30.

 

that's my end of it for the moment.

 

My next grind will resume from the AMX AC 48, whenever I get around to do it. After the machine contract, I am going to take a break from upper Tiers.


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