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Poll: Italian line grind (77 members have cast votes)

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I am getting on the Italian grind as soon as I switch on my console..

  1. Assolutamente sì! (53 votes [68.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 68.83%

  2. Me ne frego totalemente! (24 votes [31.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.17%

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Nuke2099 #21 Posted 26 March 2019 - 10:25 AM

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View PostTroipP, on 26 March 2019 - 10:13 AM, said:

What is it with all that crying about nerfed Progetto? It is clearly one of the most capable tier VIII premium on console. The numbers are here. Autoreloader mechanism is a thing of tank beauty. Coupled with such wonderful gun accuracy, it makes wonders. I was skeptical at first, but as of now Progetto is my best premium tank. And I have nearly all of them.  

 

A tier 10 possibly the DPM of a tier 2 is fine to you? A tier 8 having 1350 DPM is fine to you? You are part of the problem.
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Seal clubbers are out in force, had my Fiat 3000 torn apart by more than one Steadfast already.

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So as far I can tell, the tracks (48 down to 46) and engine (1000 down to 750) of the tier 8 were nerfed, and the tier 9 tracks (54 down to 44) were nerfed. 

 

RoF for the tier 7 top gun (7.5 down to 6.67) has been nerfed along with the tracks (44 down to 40), tier 6 top gun RoF (8 down to 7.32) got nerfed. Tier 5 top gun RoF (14.63 down to 13.33) got nerfed along with the tracks (48 down to 42).

 

Cant see anything for the tier 10 being nerfed or buffed but I would assume the RoF got nerfed. I would assume the same for the tier 8&9.


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View PostNuke2099, on 26 March 2019 - 11:25 AM, said:

 

A tier 10 possibly the DPM of a tier 2 is fine to you? A tier 8 having 1350 DPM is fine to you? You are part of the problem.

 

Yep. I agree one of us is a part of the problem. For someone who obviously like dwelling in theoretical numbers, I recommend checking the Spaghetto in-game stats. They were collected and published on Russian forum.  

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View PostSeagullOfEvil, on 26 March 2019 - 10:38 AM, said:

So as far I can tell, the tracks (48 down to 46) and engine (1000 down to 750) of the tier 8 were nerfed, and the tier 9 tracks (54 down to 44) were nerfed. 

 

RoF for the tier 7 top gun has been nerfed along with the tracks, tier 6 top gun RoF got nerfed but the tracks got buffed. Tier 5 top gun RoF got nerfed along with the tracks.

 

Cant see anything for the tier 10 being nerfed or buffed but I would assume the RoF got nerfed.

 

Ouch. RIP Italian line then? Why nerf the lower tiers though? Goodness me.

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View PostTroipP, on 26 March 2019 - 10:43 AM, said:

 

Yep. I agree one of us is a part of the problem. For someone who obviously like dwelling in theoretical numbers, I recommend checking the Spaghetto in-game stats. They were collected and published on Russian forum.  

 

Thing is... DPM is not everything but there are at least 50% of battles where you are faced on a one vs one situation against another Tier VIII or lower medium and you get shredded due to that last shell reload of almost 12 seconds... 12 seconds with which a Panther 8.8 can put in 4 shells into you.

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View PostTroipP, on 26 March 2019 - 10:43 AM, said:

 

Yep. I agree one of us is a part of the problem. For someone who obviously like dwelling in theoretical numbers, I recommend checking the Spaghetto in-game stats. They were collected and published on Russian forum.  

 

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So, from all the tier VIII premiums, on a data collected from 5 to 20 of March, Spaghetto has: 1st place in WR, 2nd place in DMG, 1st place in HITR i 3th place in SURV. It was fourth tank in number of battles from all tier eights, so it is not a case of couple of unicums. And you guys still want it in pre-nerfed state? What for?

 
 


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View PostTroipP, on 26 March 2019 - 11:01 AM, said:

So, from all the tier VIII premiums, on a data collected from 5 to 20 of March, Spaghetto has: 1st place in WR, 2nd place in DMG, 1st place in HITR i 3th place in SURV. It was fourth tank in number of battles from all tier eights, so it is not a case of couple of unicums. And you guys still want it in pre-nerfed state? What for?

 
 

 

Says the one who disregards other people's "statistical DPM data". Mwahahahahaha.

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View PostTroipP, on 26 March 2019 - 04:43 AM, said:

 

Yep. I agree one of us is a part of the problem. For someone who obviously like dwelling in theoretical numbers, I recommend checking the Spaghetto in-game stats. They were collected and published on Russian forum.  

 

yeah you're not too bright :popcorn:

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View PostRuslan74, on 26 March 2019 - 12:07 PM, said:

 

Says the one who disregards other people's "statistical DPM data". Mwahahahahaha.

 

You do realize difference between theoretical statistics of - for example - catalogue engine horsepower and statistics collected on live car performance, like lap time etc etc?

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View PostBrass Drag0n, on 26 March 2019 - 10:36 AM, said:

Seal clubbers are out in force, had my Fiat 3000 torn apart by more than one Steadfast already.

 

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View PostTroipP, on 26 March 2019 - 11:12 AM, said:

 

You do realize difference between theoretical statistics of - for example - catalogue engine horsepower and statistics collected on live car performance, like lap time etc etc?

 

You do realize the stats you mentioned mean zero when your 12 second reload for your first shell wont finish off a lower tier medium? Etc, etc?

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View PostRuslan74, on 26 March 2019 - 12:26 PM, said:

 

You do realize the stats you mentioned mean zero when your 12 second reload for your first shell wont finish off a lower tier medium? Etc, etc?

 

I mention real live in-game performance, not catalogue statistics like you. And in real live in-game performance Spaghetto is absolutely on top of things. Last, if you are getting caught face to face being on last reload (or first shell in magazine), that is not fault of the tank, I assure you.

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wow....

 

Lot's of Italian tanks everywhere this morning.... I guess they were more popular than I thought...


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View PostNuke2099, on 26 March 2019 - 10:12 AM, said:

 

I guess you didn't listen to him saying not to do what he was doing. He says it a lot in that video. 

 

I cant turn on the box at work but when he is told it why he show us the wrong way... thats not right. Cause much peoples look vids without voice on and see the wrong things!

 



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View PostP6X330, on 26 March 2019 - 06:48 AM, said:

wow....

 

Lot's of Italian tanks everywhere this morning.... I guess they were more popular than I thought...

 

Yep.  I was surprised at how many have either already reached Tier 7 or fast tracked their way up to Tier 7.  Thanks to all of you who did.  I was able to scratch one of each off of my Expert: Italy "to kill" list from Tiers 1 through 7 already, this morning.  Boo Yah!

 

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I have too many grinds now this one just going have to wait. 

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Tier 4 last gun upgrade is underwhelming. 2k experience for 7 extra pen? What a gyp!

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View PostSeagullOfEvil, on 26 March 2019 - 10:38 AM, said:

So as far I can tell, the tracks (48 down to 46) and engine (1000 down to 750) of the tier 8 were nerfed, and the tier 9 tracks (54 down to 44) were nerfed. 

 

RoF for the tier 7 top gun (7.5 down to 6.67) has been nerfed along with the tracks (44 down to 40), tier 6 top gun RoF (8 down to 7.32) got nerfed. Tier 5 top gun RoF (14.63 down to 13.33) got nerfed along with the tracks (48 down to 42).

 

Cant see anything for the tier 10 being nerfed or buffed but I would assume the RoF got nerfed. I would assume the same for the tier 8&9.

 

Eww  good grief. Nerfing the ROF was expected, but not the mobility on track traverse. That doesn't sound great. I like the Ariete, but I don't know how far into the grind I'll get before I get bored. Thanks for sharing..

 

Also just to point out to others that while paper stats don't show everything, judging a tank based on the first couple of weeks performance data is crazy. It's more than a couple of Unis driving the stats up to scary levels. There are a lot of highly competent and dedicated players contributing too. It is NOT average performance. 


Edited by JelliedPenny08, 26 March 2019 - 01:42 PM.






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