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Teffisk #1 Posted 25 April 2019 - 05:43 AM

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I just bought this tank back after a few years and played one game and my MOE went up 18%. It wasn't OP before, and people are clearly doing much worse in it post changes. WG please buff DPM and shell velocity.

DwarfOnDrugs #2 Posted 25 April 2019 - 07:05 AM

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na on paper it has over 50% WR so it will get nerfed again

 


Nuke2099 #3 Posted 25 April 2019 - 07:09 AM

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It's almost like no ones playing it. I wonder if WG can figure out why?

 

 

Low key brag. 

 


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ooo NO ONE ooo #4 Posted 25 April 2019 - 08:50 AM

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View PostNuke2099, on 25 April 2019 - 07:09 AM, said:

It's almost like no ones playing it. I wonder if WG can figure out why?

 

 

Low key brag. 

 

 

Is there a chart which will give them that answer?

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scwirpeo #5 Posted 25 April 2019 - 09:01 AM

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Well PC is fixing their mistake on the 30B. So let's all wait and see how much farther from balanced CB can make the 30B.

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Tempest fox3 #6 Posted 25 April 2019 - 09:56 AM

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View PostNuke2099, on 25 April 2019 - 07:09 AM, said:

It's almost like no ones playing it. I wonder if WG can figure out why?

 

 

Low key brag. 

 

 

I unlocked the 30b a long to be ago but never bothered buying it. I lived the 30 1er prototype a lot but never saw any point to the tier 10 as I already had the Leopard 1.

 

Then they nerfed the crap out of both. 


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View PostTeffisk, on 25 April 2019 - 05:43 AM, said:

...my MOE went up 18%. It wasn't OP before, and people are clearly doing much worse in it post changes. WG please buff DPM and shell velocity.

 

Similarly with the TVP, I got a 3rd mark after after a sub-average game, jumped somewhere around 6%.

 

At least have recent winrate at a given tier if winrate is going to be used.  


  

Some people claim Ensk should be tier restricted.   I don't believe their lies. 

Imagine if this forum had only players who actually win more than lose trying to tell others how to play. Would be the best forum ever. Instead, we have a bunch of bad advice from players who lose more often than not trying to tell their betters how to play their tanks.

 


P6X330 #8 Posted 25 April 2019 - 12:32 PM

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I have not seen one in a long time; it has bad reputation now. Those who have the tank don't play it, and those who don't have the tank do not look to add it.

 

But there are so many other choices and tanks to play, I think it is not a big issue.


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TancDeCurseRO #9 Posted 25 April 2019 - 01:26 PM

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the tank was balanced enough before.

now it's a completely different tank, that's why ex 30B players are complaining about the canges.

it might be "balanced now" but it's a totally different tank. that's the cost.

much like the stb1 on pc. it will become like the 30B we have now on console..

 



enjamio #10 Posted 25 April 2019 - 01:52 PM

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View PostTancDeCurseRO, on 25 April 2019 - 02:26 PM, said:

the tank was balanced enough before.

now it's a completely different tank, that's why ex 30B players are complaining about the canges.

it might be "balanced now" but it's a totally different tank. that's the cost.

much like the stb1 on pc. it will become like the 30B we have now on console..

 

Totally different, and worst than it was before. They have destroyed the gun stats, there is no reason to play it instead a patton or a centurion/fv.

Shell speed is trash, only 1100 m/s, and only 240mm pen, that has no sense.


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BigHundy #11 Posted 25 April 2019 - 01:58 PM

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View PostNuke2099, on 25 April 2019 - 07:09 AM, said:

It's almost like no ones playing it. I wonder if WG can figure out why?

 

 

Low key brag. 

 

 

It's use rates before the nerf were some of the lowest at tier 9 and 10.

That's why it was nerfed. Super unis were playing it being it was rare, not because it was OP.

They wanted to 3 marked them because before the nerfs they were among the hardest to 3 mark (as you've done here, congrats.).

Because only a small percentage of the wot console community were playing the tanks, and i'd wager 95% of those people were either unicum or super unicum.

 

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enjamio #12 Posted 25 April 2019 - 02:09 PM

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View PostBigHundy, on 25 April 2019 - 02:58 PM, said:

 

It's use rates before the nerf were some of the lowest at tier 9 and 10.

That's why it was nerfed. Super unis were playing it being it was rare, not because it was OP.

They wanted to 3 marked them because before the nerfs they were among the hardest to 3 mark (as you've done here, congrats.).

Because only a small percentage of the wot console community were playing the tanks, and i'd wager 95% of those people were either unicum or super unicum.

 

THIS IS NOT HOW YOU BALANCE TANKS YOU MOOKS

Yep, and in the other side you have the E75, which is played for superunicums too and for tomatoes which do 0 damage in every single battle. And as you have 5 tomato for every superunicum, the E75 stats are trush so they keep on buffing it. I think in the next balance they Will buff it again. Maybe top speed in 60km/h so you have heavy with light movility…

Anyway, as i say many times, WG has no idea about his own game, and they dont ask to experimented players, simply watch some stats and balance the tanks according the stats.


Edited by enjamio, 25 April 2019 - 02:10 PM.

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Mahrs #13 Posted 25 April 2019 - 02:19 PM

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Timely thread - this was the only French medium I was interested in. I guess I can finish the 12T and... be done with the line entirely and focus on the Italians / Germans / Brits for mediums. 

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View PostTempest fox3, on 25 April 2019 - 09:56 AM, said:

 

I unlocked the 30b a long to be ago but never bothered buying it. I lived the 30 1er prototype a lot but never saw any point to the tier 10 as I already had the Leopard 1.

 

Then they nerfed the crap out of both. 

 

That's why I kept the tier 9 since tier for tier it was better. The 30B used to be a tad better but I always saw it as a Leopard 1 with a massive tumor on it's head. And since they nerfed both the tumor on the tier 10 definitely turned cancerous. 
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Teffisk #15 Posted 25 April 2019 - 03:02 PM

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View PostNuke2099, on 25 April 2019 - 02:57 PM, said:

 

That's why I kept the tier 9 since tier for tier it was better. The 30B used to be a tad better but I always saw it as a Leopard 1 with a massive tumor on it's head. And since they nerfed both the tumor on the tier 10 definitely turned cancerous. 

Lol



Nuke2099 #16 Posted 25 April 2019 - 03:06 PM

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View PostTeffisk, on 25 April 2019 - 03:02 PM, said:

Lol

 

Image result for amx30b tumor

What is that....what the F is that! :hiding:


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View PostMahrs, on 25 April 2019 - 03:19 PM, said:

Timely thread - this was the only French medium I was interested in. I guess I can finish the 12T and... be done with the line entirely and focus on the Italians / Germans / Brits for mediums. 

 

You can keep going up to the 30 1st Proto without regretting nothing, problem is that the 30 B was exactly the same until it got nerfed, and then got worse as many people said.

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I see 30B out there fairly often.....but then again I am playing it.  Other than that it is a rare bird.
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View Postdonny007-THX, on 25 April 2019 - 08:09 AM, said:

I see 30B out there fairly often.....but then again I am playing it.  Other than that it is a rare bird.

 

I saw one yesterday. I almost oneshot it through the front with type 5 HE. V competitive, definitely an overperformer.

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