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Xenith_Inc #1 Posted 03 May 2019 - 11:12 AM

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I love the look of this tank, and reading a little on the forums found out about that second top gun package with 330 Alpha, and went for it. I unlocked the top gun last night, but am keen to see what others use - do you go with the better pen and lower alpha of the top package, or the silly alpha of the second package?

 

I've been running 50% prem in this tank. I have enough silver, and think I'll maybe run as much prem as possible when in this tank for laughs.

 

 

 


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Vampire_Izumi #2 Posted 03 May 2019 - 11:37 AM

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sarry if this is out of line a bit, but why does that 105 specifically get premium rounds that do 30 extra damage and 53mms more pen? 

something i did not notice when i played the S35 CA a long time ago is that it gets the exact same gun at tier 5. 223mms of pen and 330 average damage at tier 5. what else is interesting is the RoF is only slightly worse, it has better aim time and the same  accuracy. compared to the ARL 44.

 

sarry, just seemed very interesting.i may grind up that line now to get the AMX 50B and AMX M4 54

 

 

 


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View PostXenith_Inc, on 03 May 2019 - 12:12 PM, said:

I love the look of this tank, and reading a little on the forums found out about that second top gun package with 330 Alpha, and went for it. I unlocked the top gun last night, but am keen to see what others use - do you go with the better pen and lower alpha of the top package, or the silly alpha of the second package?

 

I've been running 50% prem in this tank. I have enough silver, and think I'll maybe run as much prem as possible when in this tank for laughs.

 

 

 

 

If you want to use it in a competitive way use the 105mm, if you want a less risky and more reliable gun take the 90mm. The only problem of the 105mm is the gun handling, bad accuracy and bad aim time, but if you use premium ammo that could be solved. Anyway, both guns are amazing, the tank has poor population, but it is the best heavy in tier 6.

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View PostXenith_Inc, on 03 May 2019 - 05:12 AM, said:

I love the look of this tank, and reading a little on the forums found out about that second top gun package with 330 Alpha, and went for it. I unlocked the top gun last night, but am keen to see what others use - do you go with the better pen and lower alpha of the top package, or the silly alpha of the second package?

 

I've been running 50% prem in this tank. I have enough silver, and think I'll maybe run as much prem as possible when in this tank for laughs.

 

I have not played mine in a long time. Not that I dislike it. I would have to go back into it for a few rounds, to get back my memory, and I shall contribute to your thread.

 

In about one hour time, I shall be back...


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BigHundy #5 Posted 03 May 2019 - 12:09 PM

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It's out classed by most of the other tier 6 heavies.

But the 105MM with full prem can be fun.

 


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I used the final 90mm. The pen on that thing is awesome. 212, I think? Hardly ever have to use prem even when bottom tier. I just used it as a middling second line tank regardless of what tier the match is...

 

I’m sure the 105mm is nice due to the alpha, but it likely requires a healthy amount of prem rounds for mid-low tier games. 



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I am back from playing three battles with the ARL 44;

 

A 100% trained crew with no perk or skill;

 

Prokorovka: 105mm finished top of the board in a defeat; I was against a team of absolution and KV-1's and ended last man standing 7 against one.

Pilsen: 90mm gun; Assault we were defending the base, but the team went out on offense and got picked out in no time. I still managed to get one bandit

Fjords: 90mm gun: Standard battle. Did not do anything exceptional as I took out the Pz IV/V and a Churchill the only two who wandered about my direction.

 

Bottom line: the 105mm gun is a better choice. The 90mm does not reload that fast. The 105mm is very inaccurate long range. I was on top of the hill on Prokorovka and shots at guys behind the railway were all lost.

I did not systematically use premium rounds, only against the Absolutions. The rest, I easily penetrated as their were just a few tens of meters away. I bounced a few shots, but got tracked several times. The prominent tracks are a weak point.

 

 


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DANCING FLAMES #8 Posted 03 May 2019 - 02:03 PM

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Back when I played it the main thing I learned was it really had bad aim time. It really needs a Gld or Vstabs. I tried without those and switched equipment mid grind. Good tank though. 



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View Postenjamio, on 03 May 2019 - 11:51 AM, said:

it is the best heavy in tier 6.

 

View PostBigHundy, on 03 May 2019 - 12:09 PM, said:

It's out classed by most of the other tier 6 heavies.

 

 

 

  So a polarising tank then!

 

 Until I got the two top guns, the tank was pretty hard to use, but it's becoming a favourite with the top 2 packages.

 

Tank can bounce same tier or lower frontally due to the thick UFP and extreme angled LFP, but the turret is kind of squishy, meaning hull down doesnt work. Ridgelines can be abused with 10 degs GD, meaning you can pick and choose fights with russians.

 

Between the top guns, there's only 0.7secs in the reload time, making the difference pen or alpha. I'm going to try it with the 90mm and see how it feels. Maybe it needs a GLD over vents. 

 

 

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I haven't picked up mine for a while, but I remember I found the 90mm Mle 49 a bit lackluster compared to the previous packages: basically to get  a whoppy 40mm extra penetration on standard ap shells (and less than 20mm on APCR, which is a bit overdoing it at tier VI) you give up almost a second of aim-time (3.4 against 2.7) and almost one round-per-minute (6 against 6.82) over the 90mm Mle 47.

 

If you want to use a 90mm gun ask yourself if you don't mind spamming APCR: in that case, I think the Mle 47 is better. On the other hand keep in mind that the Mle 49 penetrates almost anything it might face just with the basic AP shells (I mean, heck, 220mm is stuff you usually find on a Tier VIII tank), and APCR gives you just about a 30mm boost so you can go on without loading them,

 

The 105 is a thing on its own. It has about the same reload and aim time of the 90mm Mle 49 with almost a 50% increase in Alpha damage (so flat-out better damage potential), but the penetration and shell velocity are the worst of the bunch. Due to the massive size the HE shells are actually useful (think about the howitzer-equipped Sherman Jumbo) for an unmateched variety of tools to dismantle the opposing tanks.


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I've never played the ARL 44 so I can't compare, but I would think the Russian T-150 with the 107mm is the same or better.

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View PostOhJeeeze5638, on 03 May 2019 - 03:26 PM, said:

I've never played the ARL 44 so I can't compare, but I would think the Russian T-150 with the 107mm is the same or better.

 

T150 ap shell is better, but the 105mm on the ARL has better pen and 30 more alpha on the prem round.

 

That's before you even get into the sloped 120mm armour on the front Vs the 90mm on the t150


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View PostOhJeeeze5638, on 03 May 2019 - 04:26 PM, said:

I've never played the ARL 44 so I can't compare, but I would think the Russian T-150 with the 107mm is the same or better.

 

T150 is a heavy tank for a sidescraping position, even if you want to do a peek a boom you have to aim a couple seconds. With an ARL you can do the same as T150 does, but besides you can be in a hull down position with its 10 degrees of depression, and gun is so much reliable tan the soviet.

If you want to take the 105mm, sou have to spam premium ammo, it is true that the reload diference is less tan 1 sec, but, the gun handling is so much better with the 90mm. So if you are going to miss a 30% more shots with a 105mm than you would miss with the 90mm, then, does not worth the dpm.

 


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I used the 105 on mine but I didn't like the tank much due to it's extremely sluggish aim time and poor accuracy. Red tanks could peek a boo you to death as they can come out, aim, fire and retreat back into cover before you could get your reticle down all the way. It does have pretty decent gun depression though. I managed to Ace it and mark it before selling it however so I am pretty much done with it unless someday I want to try and three mark it. As for the Best Tier VI heavy, I think the M6, VK 36.01(H),  and KV-85 are all better IMHO. I even liked the Churchill VII better. I didn't care for the T-150 much due the trollish nature of the gun and it remains the only Tier VI Heavy tank I haven't managed to get a 1st or Ace tanker in. Well besides the Absolution which I only played 1 match in before relegating it to War Stories use only (for the time being that is).

 

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105 and blow silver for the extra damage.

Don't bother trying to snipe. The aim time is too long.

If I can find a good hull-down spot, I'll do that. Otherwise, I'll do my 'heavy support' routine:

Follow the biggest heavy on the team (preferably something Russian or Japanese). When a red heavy pop's out to shoot at it, you nail him after he's fired.

Thus you're protected by the friendly heavy but get your damage in as well. ... If the friendly heavy dies, use that for cover and keep fighting.


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