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RaiBOT01 #1 Posted 13 May 2019 - 04:54 PM

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Hello Tankers!!

 

Please share your feedback for the following Tank balance adjustments in update 4.10

China

  • 113
    • 122-mm 60-122T gun
      • Penetration: 249 → 258
  • 110
    • Turret 1
      • 122-mm 37-122JT gun
        • Reload time: 14 → 12.8
      • 122-mm D25-T gun
        • Reload time: 12.5 → 12.3
  • T-34-2
    • Removed 85mm S-53 gun
    • Removed 85mm Tip 56-85JT gun
    • Chassis 1
      • Shot dispersion movement/rotation: .2/.2 → .18/.18
    • Chassis 2
      • Shot dispersion movement/rotation: .18/.18 → .16/.16
    • 100mm 44-100JT gun
      • Accuracy: .4 → .38
    • 122-mm 37-122JT gun
      • Accuracy: .45 → .42

USSR

  • Matilda IV
    • FWD/ BWD top speed: 25/10 → 30/12
      • Terrain resistance: 1.03 / 1.26 / 2.29 → 1 / 1.2 / 2.2
      • Hull rotation speed: 35 → 38
      • Turret rotation speed: 34.13 → 38
      • View Range: 350 → 360
      • Reload time: 3.71 → 3.6

Czechoslovakia

  • Skoda T40 + Zizka Skoda T40
    • Health: 700 → 750
    • Turret Rotation Speed: 32 → 34

UK

  • Caernarvon
    • Turret 1
      • OQF 17pdr Gun Mk VII gun
        • Reload time:  4.5 → 4

  • 32 pounder Gun OQF gun
    • Reload time:  8.3 → 8
  • Chieftain/T95 / Centennial
    • 90mm Gun T208 rifled gun
    • Reload time: 8.3 → 7.53

 

 

US

  • M24 Chaffee
    • Chassis 1
      • Hull rotation speed: 40 → 44
    • Chassis 2
      • Hull rotation speed:  42 → 46
    • Turret 1
      • Turret rotation speed: 44 → 46
        • 75mm Gun M6 gun
          • Reload time: 5.2 → 4.8
    • Turret 2
      • Turret rotation speed: 44 → 48

 

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ImpulseOyster42 #2 Posted 21 May 2019 - 02:09 PM

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Not enough, we're getting tanks implemented from PC with fresh nerfs, yet dozens of existing tanks in need of reworking are being ignored on the basis of "not following PC data".

 

It's so backwards. Either use existing data or don't.



Teffisk #3 Posted 21 May 2019 - 02:18 PM

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Much more balancing is needed. I think the following changes are pretty agreeable and I don't understand why things like this are missed:
Maus rate of fire buff
121 gun depression buff
K-91 camo buff
AMX 30B shell velocity buff
T-34-3 gun handling/aim time buff
T-34 Fighting girlfriend everything buff
And much more.

The community has been pleading for changes like this. Why are these things ignored?

DandG915 #4 Posted 21 May 2019 - 04:15 PM

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Would've liked a 121 depression buff and maybe an aim time buff to the 120.

XEboi #5 Posted 21 May 2019 - 04:31 PM

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So much more is needed

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View PostTeffisk, on 21 May 2019 - 09:18 AM, said:

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AMX 30B shell velocity buff
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View PostDandG915, on 21 May 2019 - 11:15 AM, said:

Would've liked a 121 depression buff and maybe an aim time buff to the 120.

That and the same treatment to the 113 and restore the AMX 30B shell velocity. The T-40 Skoda/Ziska gets an HP and turret traverse buff, neither of which was needed. I think the tank performs fine. Yet the T57 heavy remains untouched with a ridiculous RoF given its gun and its relative speed. 

 

Well done, WG, well done 


   

 

                                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                 

 


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There are 100 tanks that need buffed, probably 25 that need nerfs and you guys adjusted 7.  I don’t get it but whatever.  It’s a waste of time to solicit feedback that you won’t listen to anyway.  Why bother?

Pontiac Pat #9 Posted 21 May 2019 - 07:28 PM

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Feedback on the Matilda IV - 
The overall tank is fine with these buffs.  The one thing that REALLY handicaps it is the low penetration of the premium round.  102mm just isn't enough even against same tier heavies.  The next lowest pen premium round is 121mm for the KV-220-2.  They even use the same round but with different pen ratings.  Please buff the Matilda IV's premium round to 120mm and it will be a solid option once again while remaining the lowest pen premium round in tier 5*. (*excluding auto-cannons and derp guns)

Feedback on the Chaffee - 
Mobility buff is nice.  The one thing I'd like to see changed is the accuracy of the final gun.  It makes no sense to have it at .44 when the stock gun is .42.  Please buff that to .42 (or even .41) so that the top package makes clear sense.

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Pontiac Pat #10 Posted 21 May 2019 - 11:42 PM

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Feedback on T-34-2 -

The better gun handling is nice, but the tank still suffers from a critical combination of weaknesses.  It has weak armor, low penetration, and no gun depression.  That really, really limits its usefulness on many maps.  Mediums with no armor need gun depression.  Mediums with no gun depression need armor.  High pen would allow it to contribute more at range.  It has to play more like a light tank right now with the 100mm.  The 122 is just too clumsy and slow to reload to be effective on a chassis with no armor or gun depression.  The buff helped, but it's still clumsy for a tier 8 medium.  Suggestion - buff the accuracy of the top 100mm gun to allow it to play the long range game better.  A slight increase in gun depression would be welcome too, even 6 degrees would be a noticeable improvement.  The 122 needs faster reload.


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Feedback on 113 - 
The extra pen on the standard ammo is nice, but when in doubt I load the HEAT, so it's not really a difference maker.

What is a difference maker is the gun depression.  The in-game display says it has 7 degrees of gun depression, but it doesn't really feel like it because it's only over the sides.  Make it -7 over the front as well and it'll be golden.  If there is a technical reason it can't be done (barrel clipping hull of tank) then make it as close as it can go without clipping and buff the cupolas so they aren't such easy weak spots.


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Feedback on Caernarvan - 
Good tank.  DPM buff appreciated.  Nothing really to add to that.

Feedback on Cheiftain/T95 - 

The DPM buff makes a huge difference.  Thank you.

Feedback on Skoda T 40 - 

These buffs are welcome, but the tank suffers from low shell velocity and poor gun depression.  Just like the T-34-2, it fails in armor, depression and firepower.  It needs depression the most, with shell velocity next.


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Where's the IS4 buff!? 

 

Like the guy said earlier you want our feedback but REFUSE to listen to it! 



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Cheiftain/T95 could still use a small buff to gun handling, but it’s more about comfort than balance there.  Quite happy to have that reload buff!!  Quite happy about the Caernarvon as well even though I didn’t think it needed it!!

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Bump feedback post! 

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View PostPontiac Pat, on 21 May 2019 - 08:43 PM, said:

Feedback on Caernarvan - 
Good tank.  DPM buff appreciated.  Nothing really to add to that.

Feedback on Cheiftain/T95 - 

The DPM buff makes a huge difference.  Thank you.

Feedback on Skoda T 40 - 

These buffs are welcome, but the tank suffers from low shell velocity and poor gun depression.  Just like the T-34-2, it fails in armor, depression and firepower.  It needs depression the most, with shell velocity next.

 

What the Skoda T 40 really needs is  soft stat dispersion (handling) buff.

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View PostPontiac Pat, on 21 May 2019 - 06:42 PM, said:

Feedback on T-34-2 -

The better gun handling is nice, but the tank still suffers from a critical combination of weaknesses.  It has weak armor, low penetration, and no gun depression.  That really, really limits its usefulness on many maps.  Mediums with no armor need gun depression.  Mediums with no gun depression need armor.  High pen would allow it to contribute more at range.  It has to play more like a light tank right now with the 100mm.  The 122 is just too clumsy and slow to reload to be effective on a chassis with no armor or gun depression.  The buff helped, but it's still clumsy for a tier 8 medium.  Suggestion - buff the accuracy of the top 100mm gun to allow it to play the long range game better.  A slight increase in gun depression would be welcome too, even 6 degrees would be a noticeable improvement.  The 122 needs faster reload.

 

I second this, though it might be better to add an additonal soft stat dispersion buff, say maybe .13  .13  .10

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The Italians absolutely suck since they came out. The tier 9 and 10 are easily the worst of the autoreloaders with a 11 second relaod to a 105 that does 360 damage. Absolute trash tank. But hell, let's buff the Chaffee! And obviously people have been reeming over how bad the Matilda IV is! But never mind, we won't fix the tanks that actually need rebalance because screw your feedback. We are war gaming and we can barely read.

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Just an Idea but why don't you guys take a look at tanks that are barely played and have a super low amount of battles recently and look into maybe buffing some of those said tanks to make them more relevant and maybe a bit more then the couple of random tanks you changed in this update :honoring:

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I understand that the console features are different from the tanks of tanks on PC? My favorite T-54 tank in the console version has less turret armor and a significantly worse gun which probate 219... I was very upset about that...



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