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XLilabnerX #1 Posted 22 May 2019 - 11:42 PM

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So again start playing and immediatly first 5 games all losses. This is one of the many big reasons so many have quit playing. Come on WG answer !!!!!! Why not fix this? What possible reason to have so many complain about this?

John Arrowsmith #2 Posted 22 May 2019 - 11:49 PM

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In order for someone to win someone else has to lose.   How can this be fixed?

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The vast majority never complain about losing.  :popcorn:

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XLilabnerX #4 Posted 23 May 2019 - 12:12 AM

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View PostSaltyMcD, on 23 May 2019 - 12:01 AM, said:

The vast majority never complain about losing.  :popcorn:

 

roflmfao I recall over 2,000 posts in the forums ..... Green Team , losing streaks, MM causing losses.... ect. But enjoy the popcorn

M4ntiX #5 Posted 23 May 2019 - 12:15 AM

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View PostXLilabnerX, on 22 May 2019 - 11:42 PM, said:

So again start playing and immediatly first 5 games all losses. This is one of the many big reasons so many have quit playing. Come on WG answer !!!!!! Why not fix this? What possible reason to have so many complain about this?

 

I am curious, how do you propose to solve this "problem" exactly? You know, WG staff is reading those threads, I am sure your suggestion will be taken under consideration. :)

So, knock yourself out and tell us, how do we make everyone win? Or is the system you have in mind designed only to make YOU win? :)

 

 


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XLilabnerX #6 Posted 23 May 2019 - 12:43 AM

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View PostM4ntiX, on 23 May 2019 - 12:15 AM, said:

 

I am curious, how do you propose to solve this "problem" exactly? You know, WG staff is reading those threads, I am sure your suggestion will be taken under consideration. :)

So, knock yourself out and tell us, how do we make everyone win? Or is the system you have in mind designed only to make YOU win? :)

 

 

 

roflmfao here and on this thread, and the other lame antics on the other thread, but keep trolling. Only you know your poor character. Fix been posted at least 100 times, but who is counting ( oh wait you are, roflmfao), skill based MM.

HomicidalApple0 #7 Posted 23 May 2019 - 12:57 AM

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View PostXLilabnerX, on 23 May 2019 - 12:43 AM, said:

 

roflmfao here and on this thread, and the other lame antics on the other thread, but keep trolling. Only you know your poor character. Fix been posted at least 100 times, but who is counting ( oh wait you are, roflmfao), skill based MM.

Because skill based MM has worked so well for games like Call of Duty right?? People always thinking it’s as easy as the snap of a finger....



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View PostHomicidalApple0, on 23 May 2019 - 12:57 AM, said:

Because skill based MM has worked so well for games like Call of Duty right?? People always thinking it’s as easy as the snap of a finger....

 

Is this game even close to COD? Or even closer with it's algorithms? As iron sharpeneth iron at least losing could be swallowed if I was being challenged, but to drive out to position, and to look up and see 6 teamates dead and maybe their light tank dead, realizing at best I would have to kill 7 to 9 ( BTW how common are those games.Much less than 50%.) to win the game. Takes the challenge out, and weights the game toward frustration. 

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View PostXLilabnerX, on 22 May 2019 - 05:42 PM, said:

So again start playing and immediatly first 5 games all losses. This is one of the many big reasons so many have quit playing. Come on WG answer !!!!!! Why not fix this? What possible reason to have so many complain about this?

 

Can't fix unpredictable or terrible players.  Best to come back another day, switch tanks, tiers, play warships etc

 


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View PostJohn Arrowsmith, on 22 May 2019 - 06:49 PM, said:

In order for someone to win someone else has to lose.   How can this be fixed?

 



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Welcome to world of noobs. I have had worse with 10 straight last night but yet here I am



Ruslan74 #12 Posted 23 May 2019 - 05:10 AM

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I can almost predict an insta-loss once the game loads just by looking at platoons. 4 man KV-1 platoon or Absolutions, etc just guarantees a loss. Dish out as much damage and retry again. Heck, if you want to you can at least try to get 10 hits without a miss to ear a Sniper medal to boost your XP gain in a loss - my method of trying to get something out of a loosing situation.

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View PostXLilabnerX, on 23 May 2019 - 02:15 AM, said:

 

Is this game even close to COD? Or even closer with it's algorithms?

 

Way way more than you can imagine.

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choppermeir #14 Posted 23 May 2019 - 06:34 AM

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Get's closer to CoD with every update. Just wait until we get wheeled vehicles (which are NOT tanks) then we'll all be cruise controlling doing 360 no scopes. 

 

Seriously though, one team HAS to lose so what is your genuine idea to fix this?. Skill based MM is not the be all and end all answer, it doesn't work to great affect in any other game it is implemented in so why would it work here?. 


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And how is WG supposes to fix your losing streak? You know, if 15 players win, 15 other players lose. 

 

Winning games is up to the players itself, nothing to do there for WG except equal numbers of top tier tanks. 


     

                  

 

 
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matematicalone #16 Posted 23 May 2019 - 08:24 AM

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One team doesn't always have to lose. There is also a draw. But it's a minor number of cases, so in general one team will always have to lose the battle. Now, what OP is saying I believe, is how is it possible to have losing streaks in randomly chosen teams of 15 players so often? Random choice would lean towards 50% WR overall (in significant number of battles). But then we do have players with over 60% WR and we do have players with 40% WR (don't know if it can go under 40%).

MM is indeed broken in platoon segment, and it surely isn't working ideal in teams balance by classes of tanks (this is the most frequent flaw).

Other than that we would need to put on our tinfoil hats to go there, things like hidden scripts for certain players etc.



 


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I'm sure there must be something that can be done to ease how unbalanced games are.

I wouldn't mind 20 losses in a row if i felt that my contribution mattered in any of those games.

A bunch of 15-0 steamrollers, win or lose, are just bloody spirit crushing.

 

I don't get the pervasive 'thems the breaks' attitude on here.

Clearly there's no desire t do anything about it in WG towers either.

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wait when was CoD's MM ever skill based?

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theSwansonFTW #19 Posted 23 May 2019 - 09:23 AM

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I lost my first 6 games yesterday.

It happens.

I did my best, did as much damage as I could an that's that.

 

As for skill based MM. How the hell would that work?

What happens if the best players are in the bottom tier tanks?

Or they're in a TD/Light on a city map?

 

Whatever happens we can always find some reason for our failure. The fact is you do not have a right to win, and sometimes greens just get rolled. 

Yes, it's frustrating. Especially with ops that are dependent on winning, but that's what happens in a FTP online MP game.

 

The only control you have, is your skill, your tank and your loadout. Everything else is out of your hands.


 


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View PostXLilabnerX, on 22 May 2019 - 05:42 PM, said:

So again start playing and immediatly first 5 games all losses. This is one of the many big reasons so many have quit playing. Come on WG answer !!!!!! Why not fix this? What possible reason to have so many complain about this?

 

I suggest you do that; at each battle start, I observe the behavior of the allies, and I try to guess what the outcome of the battle will be.

 

I am correct almost always! and it has nothing to do with match making. You check how the initial deployment goes, such as all on one side, or everybody stays close to the spawn, or in encounter battles, nobody heads for the base, it is relatively easy. If you heed these early signs, you can make the most of the battle, short of winning it.


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