Jump to content


Amx 13 105 - Why is this tank so bad?

Buff?

  • Please log in to reply
11 replies to this topic

RabidSasquatch0 #1 Posted 26 May 2019 - 05:13 PM

    Captain

  • Beta Tester
  • 20426 battles
  • 1,338
  • [VYPER]
  • Member since:
    11-09-2013
Let's take a quick look at some pros and cons here
 
Pros:
  • 3 round autoloader, just shy of 1200 burst.
  • Ok camo?
  • Has a good top speed limit

 

Cons:

  • Worse reload than the t57 heavy which gets 4 rounds in its clip
  • Slowest, least manuverable light tank (I've never hit the top speed short of going in a straight line downhill- it's only redeeming factor is if you can thi ~70kph you can clutch break once while keeping some speed to be able to pop a corner, the 13 90 couldn't going only 60).  Worse than some mediums (leo 1, 30b, batchat 25t, etc)
  • Blind, can't spot for it's life
  • Terrible dispersion values, if you're not sitting still, aiming between shots in the clip, you won't hit them.  Interclip reload means nothing since aim time is so slow you can't mag dump
  • Low health
  • Super prone to module damage (moreso that other lights- can't mitigate poor stats by taking food or fuel because it's so prone to fires/module damage/crew death)
  • Long reload, terrible dpm, poor elevation and depression, super inflexible gun

 

Probably some stuff I'm missing, but to keep it short, I dont see how this tank is good.  The only time you can effectively use the gun is by trading with lightly armored tanks from their front (probably only hit 1-2 shots mag dumping for the aforementioned poor aim time and after shot dispersion), or big slow tanks from behind (who, in the time it takes to clip, can turn to shoot you.  You cant circle them, you'll never be able to keep up with even a maus, and if you could, forget hitting anything at the radius you circle at with the aforementioned horrid dispersion).

 

This is probably the worst gun on a light tank, and I could be ok with that, but everything else (and I mean everything) is by far the worst out of all the tier 10 lights.  The only thing I can imagine is you're supposed to use the gun, but it's so bad (I can hit those same 1-2 shots with my Sheridan reliably in the time a 13 105 takes to fire it's clip, then get 4 more in while he's reloading).

 

I'm not saying it's impossible to do well in (people seem to think that's what makes a bad tank), I've done 6k damage in mine, but it would be so much easier to do in any other light tank, I just don't get what this has going for it.



V4nquished79 #2 Posted 26 May 2019 - 06:10 PM

    Sergeant

  • Players
  • 35998 battles
  • 118
  • [BGTT]
  • Member since:
    12-01-2015
I have 2 moe of mine, but yes, everything you said is true. But hey, try ELC or AMX 13 57 and you will see what is a slow light. Russian and american tanks must shine, so others are worst.

matematicalone #3 Posted 26 May 2019 - 06:49 PM

    First lieutenant

  • Players
  • 1986 battles
  • 694
  • Member since:
    11-15-2017

Never drove one, but I value opinion of good light tankers, such as Turkey Tank. I remember Turkey not liking that tank at first, but later on he 3-mark it and uploaded couple of great videos with some epic games.



 


Kaboost #4 Posted 26 May 2019 - 07:19 PM

    Captain

  • Beta Tester
  • 15078 battles
  • 1,129
  • [JOCO]
  • Member since:
    07-04-2013

There is a lot wrong with it.

Reload is long compared to other autoloaders

Intra-clip reload is kind of long. Can expose your self for too long trying to get your clip out.

Not enough clip potential to save yourself from other lights and it’s so inaccurate that you usually miss or bounce at least 1 shot.

Only has 390m view range, other lights & mediums will steal your spots

Turret traverse is way slower than the 13 90s. No longer snapshot

Maintains the same track traverse speed as the 13 90, BC 12T, which is already really low(40degrees). Why do they not become more mobile the higher up the line you go?

Lowest hit points of the tier 10 lights if I remember correctly. 

Like the other French Autoloaders gun elevation is horrible 


Lights tanks need rebalanced(again)

​Update 4.2 and 4.6 were terrible


V4nquished79 #5 Posted 26 May 2019 - 07:41 PM

    Sergeant

  • Players
  • 35998 battles
  • 118
  • [BGTT]
  • Member since:
    12-01-2015
Can't even kill tier 9 light with one clip...And the turret traverse - trying to flank on full speed you should stop and wait your turret to rotate...In the same time t100 will make 1000 circles around you  

Very Classy #6 Posted 26 May 2019 - 09:02 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 30979 battles
  • 3,424
  • [JOCO]
  • Member since:
    04-24-2014

Certainly is a rough vehicle to make any early game impact, but, holy carp, this is a late game B.E.A.S.T.! It's pretty much been my best kill-getter for Stage 7 of the Sharpshooter. Such a good end-game assassin.

 

I will agree, though, that it cannot really compete with other lights... it is lacking. Easily rushed and punished.



ThermalStone #7 Posted 26 May 2019 - 09:41 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 31253 battles
  • 4,531
  • [80085]
  • Member since:
    02-18-2014
It's not a bad tank, it's just worse than the 13 90 which is one of the best tanks in the game.  13 105 is still a French autoloading light which means it's a great stat padder 

I'm not stealing kills, I'm handing out Confederate medals.


RAD FROOD 25 #8 Posted 29 May 2019 - 12:55 PM

    Captain

  • Players
  • 19967 battles
  • 1,441
  • Member since:
    04-26-2014
I've 20k left on my 13 90 and I'm only going to buy it to say I've got 1 of each type of tier 10 in my garage

Mahrs #9 Posted 19 June 2019 - 07:33 PM

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 5933 battles
  • 283
  • Member since:
    03-26-2016

I only went down the line for the AMX 30B and 13-105...and everyone keeps saying they're terrible... Are they at least fun?

 

I've enjoyed the Tier 5 thru 8...the 13-90 is supposed to be good... 



AJH387 #10 Posted 19 June 2019 - 08:08 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 15223 battles
  • 2,453
  • [HLCAT]
  • Member since:
    12-10-2014
I think it is a really fun tank. For as much as people seem to like the Sheridan, I think I like the 105 about the same, if not more. Not saying it is better, as the Sheridan is more flexible, but I have just as many bad games in the Sheridan as the 105, so to me they are pretty equal. And the 105 is fun just because it is a great clean up tank. Obviously the gun handling isn't great. The pen can be annoying and the reload / inter clip reload seems a tad too long. But still fun. 

P6X330 #11 Posted 19 June 2019 - 09:48 PM

    Major

  • Supertest - PS4
  • 15311 battles
  • 3,952
  • [AMXS]
  • Member since:
    07-02-2017

View PostMahrs, on 19 June 2019 - 01:33 PM, said:

I only went down the line for the AMX 30B and 13-105...and everyone keeps saying they're terrible... Are they at least fun?

 

I've enjoyed the Tier 5 thru 8...the 13-90 is supposed to be good... 

 

I can't say for the AMX 30B, as I stopped dead in my tracks when it got nerfed.

 

But the 105 is fun.

 

I did the last stage of the Tusk exclusively in the 105 last year. So I have played it a lot. If you like the 13-90, you will be ok in the 13-105.

The 13-105 is a lot more agile than the 13-90, but the reloads are longer, and with only three shells, you are very vulnerable, as penetration is a lottery.

 

So as long as you keep that in mind, you can have a lot of fun in your 105.


                Bad teams are in the same battle. Good teams work together! don't complain, contribute.

 


Funktastic Ed #12 Posted 20 June 2019 - 06:06 AM

    First lieutenant

  • Players
  • 18226 battles
  • 667
  • Member since:
    11-21-2014
I can tell you that i avoid them when i'm running my T54 Ltwt.
"Idiots dare everything, that's how you really know they are."





Also tagged with Buff?

1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users