Jump to content


Any details on the Hellcat 105 yet?

raibot max

  • Please log in to reply
47 replies to this topic

MaxChaos24 #21 Posted 23 July 2019 - 11:23 AM

    Gameplay Expert

  • Administrator
  • 13272 battles
  • 20,977
  • [WGW]
  • Member since:
    09-15-2013

View PostTeffisk, on 22 July 2019 - 03:55 PM, said:

I don't think it's a console exclusive. The tank was teased on PC as well I believe. 

 

It's a Console exclusive and doesn't exist on PC. :honoring:

DwarfOnDrugs #22 Posted 23 July 2019 - 12:05 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 31742 battles
  • 2,460
  • [-UNL-]
  • Member since:
    03-12-2014

It’s recycled PC content on console*

~That’s what is meant by ‘Console Exclusive’


 


Mahrs #23 Posted 23 July 2019 - 12:58 PM

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 5933 battles
  • 283
  • Member since:
    03-26-2016

I think we're on the same page. The standard 160 pen, 240 alpha gun is good... The APCR is flat out great. If you're gonna make a derp-cat, and do it right, I think you bastardize the 105 mm from the T29. 320 alpha, but with gun handling and reload appropriate to the tier. It would need to be a short barrel and they could monkey with a lower silver pen standard round (like the German short 88), higher alpha standard HE with adjusted pen, and the prammo could be anything they want for flavor. 

 

Then you'd have two cats with very different guns and play styles. 



Teffisk #24 Posted 23 July 2019 - 01:55 PM

    Captain

  • Players
  • 23895 battles
  • 1,744
  • [-L7-]
  • Member since:
    10-14-2015

View PostMaxChaos24, on 23 July 2019 - 11:23 AM, said:

View PostTeffisk, on 22 July 2019 - 03:55 PM, said:

I don't think it's a console exclusive. The tank was teased on PC as well I believe. 

 

It's a Console exclusive and doesn't exist on PC. :honoring:

Really? Here it is on the PC website.



MaxChaos24 #25 Posted 23 July 2019 - 02:06 PM

    Gameplay Expert

  • Administrator
  • 13272 battles
  • 20,977
  • [WGW]
  • Member since:
    09-15-2013

View PostTeffisk, on 23 July 2019 - 09:55 AM, said:

Really? Here it is on the PC website.

 

 

Yes, I'm very sure. That's just a background art. If you read the article it is for these tanks:



JelliedPenny08 #26 Posted 23 July 2019 - 02:08 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 16181 battles
  • 4,526
  • Member since:
    06-07-2014

View PostMahrs, on 23 July 2019 - 12:58 PM, said:

I think we're on the same page. The standard 160 pen, 240 alpha gun is good... The APCR is flat out great. If you're gonna make a derp-cat, and do it right, I think you bastardize the 105 mm from the T29. 320 alpha, but with gun handling and reload appropriate to the tier. It would need to be a short barrel and they could monkey with a lower silver pen standard round (like the German short 88), higher alpha standard HE with adjusted pen, and the prammo could be anything they want for flavor. 

 

Then you'd have two cats with very different guns and play styles. 

 

Agreed, however they implement it makes the difference. I want a Tank Destroyer, not a Tank Denter...

Teffisk #27 Posted 23 July 2019 - 02:22 PM

    Captain

  • Players
  • 23895 battles
  • 1,744
  • [-L7-]
  • Member since:
    10-14-2015

View PostMaxChaos24, on 23 July 2019 - 02:06 PM, said:

 

Yes, I'm very sure. That's just a background art. If you read the article it is for these tanks:

You're telling me PC is using art for a tank that will never exist in their game? I'll bet you an Italian reload buff that's wrong. 



Afro Palestine #28 Posted 23 July 2019 - 04:11 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 56952 battles
  • 4,920
  • [HKC]
  • Member since:
    07-07-2014

View PostMilitaryGoose05, on 10 July 2019 - 01:31 PM, said:

Gosh I hope it doesn't just have the same gun as the Tier V Sherman derp.

 

I see what you did there...

Pit Friend #29 Posted 23 July 2019 - 06:10 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 33519 battles
  • 18,606
  • [PTATO]
  • Member since:
    07-14-2014

View PostFusionStar287, on 23 July 2019 - 01:24 AM, said:

I don't know, while a Hellcat with a 105mm derp gun could be bad, if it were given the right ROF or if its gun ends up having higher alpha damage and/or pen than a normal 105mm it could also potentially be one of the most enjoyable premiums released.

 

This is the same balance team that decided the Stubbs with its 25 Pounder howitzer at tier V was overperforming and so drastically reduced the reload while the exact same howitzer sits on the US Sexton I at tier III with indirect fire ability as well as a much faster reload completely untouched. So I have very little confidence that this thing will be improved in any way, shape, or form from the 105mm howitzer on the tier IV TD. 

When the nice guy loses his patience the devil shivers. 


Joco3000 #30 Posted 23 July 2019 - 06:54 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 26596 battles
  • 28,193
  • [JOCO]
  • Member since:
    08-22-2013

View PostMaxChaos24, on 23 July 2019 - 02:06 PM, said:

 

Yes, I'm very sure. That's just a background art. If you read the article it is for these tanks:

 

Wait, PC took console art?

Are they going to be taking the AMX Chaffee next?

View PostFusionStar287, on 23 July 2019 - 06:24 AM, said:

I don't know, while a Hellcat with a 105mm derp gun could be bad, if it were given the right ROF or if its gun ends up having higher alpha damage and/or pen than a normal 105mm it could also potentially be one of the most enjoyable premiums released.

 

The old VK 28.01 was a very fun tank.

Not great by any stretch, but a genuine joy to play.

 

This could be similar. Or they could just Turtle it and make it the Dreadnaught of tier VI.


You can PM with with questions, if you wish. I don't bite.

Compilation thread of my ideas


BrogueOne #31 Posted 23 July 2019 - 07:36 PM

    Major

  • Supertest - PS4
  • 23396 battles
  • 10,442
  • [ELDER]
  • Member since:
    01-07-2016

View PostJoco3000, on 23 July 2019 - 06:54 PM, said:

 

Wait, PC took console art?

Are they going to be taking the AMX Chaffee next?

 

To be fair..... Console uses PC-originated art quite often in marketing backgrounds.  

 

I wonder if PC players would understand the AMX Chaffee the way we do.



FusionStar287 #32 Posted 23 July 2019 - 09:59 PM

    Major

  • WoTC Ambassador
  • 20400 battles
  • 16,426
  • [JOCO]
  • Member since:
    08-13-2013

View PostPit Friend, on 23 July 2019 - 01:10 PM, said:

 

This is the same balance team that decided the Stubbs with its 25 Pounder howitzer at tier V was overperforming and so drastically reduced the reload while the exact same howitzer sits on the US Sexton I at tier III with indirect fire ability as well as a much faster reload completely untouched. So I have very little confidence that this thing will be improved in any way, shape, or form from the 105mm howitzer on the tier IV TD. 

That's just it, while the Stubbs was nerfed pretty badly the US Sexton is still just as OP as always, which in my mind means that the Hellcat could be anywhere between great and terrible. As for now I'm remaining hopefully optimistic.


"My dear brothers, take note of this: Men should be quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry, for man's anger does not bring about the righteous life that God desires." ~ James 1: 19-20

 

"wefWEGFRF" - RaiBOT01, 2017


FusionStar287 #33 Posted 23 July 2019 - 10:04 PM

    Major

  • WoTC Ambassador
  • 20400 battles
  • 16,426
  • [JOCO]
  • Member since:
    08-13-2013

View PostJoco3000, on 23 July 2019 - 01:54 PM, said:

 

The old VK 28.01 was a very fun tank.

Not great by any stretch, but a genuine joy to play.

 

This could be similar. Or they could just Turtle it and make it the Dreadnaught of tier VI.

Either of those options would certainly make a Derp Hellcat a very fun tank. I mean, if it were given some absurd ROF like 10-12 RPM with the Sherman's gun it might not be great but could be fun, and of course there's always a chance that it's given higher pen than any other 105mm howitzer as well.


"My dear brothers, take note of this: Men should be quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry, for man's anger does not bring about the righteous life that God desires." ~ James 1: 19-20

 

"wefWEGFRF" - RaiBOT01, 2017


IEnjoythissee #34 Posted 24 July 2019 - 07:26 PM

    First lieutenant

  • Players
  • 70085 battles
  • 508
  • Member since:
    11-11-2014
Slooowwwww turret. :bush:

Chr15py #35 Posted 10 September 2019 - 02:15 PM

    Captain

  • Beta Tester
  • 15426 battles
  • 1,512
  • Member since:
    09-16-2013

Just wondering if final spec have been done on this yet? Would be nice to find out :)

 

chris


"Per Ardua ad Astra - Through adversity to the stars"

Chr15py #36 Posted 12 September 2019 - 08:31 AM

    Captain

  • Beta Tester
  • 15426 battles
  • 1,512
  • Member since:
    09-16-2013
Max, Rai?
"Per Ardua ad Astra - Through adversity to the stars"

KilledByPing #37 Posted 12 September 2019 - 12:12 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 15931 battles
  • 2,264
  • [ENVY]
  • Member since:
    02-12-2017

View PostRAGNAR0K N ROLL, on 11 July 2019 - 05:13 AM, said:

I wonder if you qualify for the end of year reward if you buy the 2M I completed two of the three spring games and I’d hate to miss out on it just because of that. Though I’ll admit they aren’t scary to face...in a Dreadnought 

 

No you wont. It is calculated by the ammount of games you finished, not premiums tanks you have.

You need to finish atleast 10 out of 12 games during the year. But even if you missed a few you can still buy end of the year reward like you did with IS-2M.

Every game's op you finished grant you 10% discount. So completing 10 of them basicaly give you 100% discount.



BrogueOne #38 Posted 12 September 2019 - 12:53 PM

    Major

  • Supertest - PS4
  • 23396 battles
  • 10,442
  • [ELDER]
  • Member since:
    01-07-2016

View PostChr15py, on 12 September 2019 - 08:31 AM, said:

Max, Rai?

Stats will be released as soon as they’re finalized and the print article is ready for publication.



Chr15py #39 Posted 12 September 2019 - 01:15 PM

    Captain

  • Beta Tester
  • 15426 battles
  • 1,512
  • Member since:
    09-16-2013

View PostBrogueOne, on 12 September 2019 - 12:53 PM, said:

Stats will be released as soon as they’re finalized and the print article is ready for publication.

 

That's what I was asking in the previous post. If the stats had been finalised or not.

 

.....obviously not :teethhappy:

Chris


"Per Ardua ad Astra - Through adversity to the stars"

Teffisk #40 Posted 12 September 2019 - 03:26 PM

    Captain

  • Players
  • 23895 battles
  • 1,744
  • [-L7-]
  • Member since:
    10-14-2015

View PostChr15py, on 12 September 2019 - 08:31 AM, said:

Max, Rai?

Hey, they only announced it 2.5 months ago. Please lower your standards. Give them at least 7 months. They are busy with Commander Mode and also more mechs.







Also tagged with raibot, max

2 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 2 guests, 0 anonymous users