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YouMadBro413 #21 Posted 11 July 2019 - 08:32 PM

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Make 1/1 MM permanent. Now that we are back to 2/2 MM I have to park half my tanks (not fun being/under performing when 2 tiers down). For those that say it is more challenging being bottom tier, just take out your Brick, Lee, Churchill GC, etc and have fun. Please think of the many players that are either new or not yet good enough for 2/2 MM and get turned off by getting stomped every game. 

PewPewMaylay #22 Posted 11 July 2019 - 08:52 PM

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+1/-1 MM was a fantastic week long event that I enjoyed and I'm sure much of the community did as well. Something I noticed during this event and just my feedback on the subject, by implementing +1/-1 MM to the core game, you put most all of the tanks from low tier to high tier on a more balanced playing field and would need less balancing of the tanks themselves. Just my opinion however.



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View PostRaiBOT01, on 11 July 2019 - 06:47 AM, said:

 

We may or may not do another test.  I'm not sure.  I believe the time of the trial was long enough.  I could bring this up to the dev and publishing teams but the probability of it happening will be minimal.

 

No need for another test.  It was a blockbuster success for the majority of players. +1/-1 was so much more enjoyable that I haven't played more than two games per since it went away. Today I just felt like- bleh- don't feel like chasing those platooned tier 8 lights in my tier 6 medium stock tank I'm grinding, and turned it off.

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Please make it permanent. It was the most fun I've had in WoT in years. I was also able to take out my low tiers which helps people new to the game get matches. Today especially has been jarring so much so I can't really be bothered putting the effort in. 

 

I noticed no increase to queue time, got plenty of games at all tiers and the only issue is the mm would not distribute classes very well, i.e. Stacking heavies all on one team. Then again it's doing that today. 

 

There really is nothing to go over. #makewotfunagain

 



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probably come back with cross platform play :great:

 


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A big tick for permanent +1/-1 from me.

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+1 - 1 100% support it to be implemented permanently. 

Pat-Downz #28 Posted 12 July 2019 - 12:08 AM

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+1 / -1 , yes, let EVERYONE have fun in what is after all a game !!  Even potatoes deserve a ray of sunshine to progress!!

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Do it!  It was far better than +2/-2

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View PostRaiBOT01, on 11 July 2019 - 02:47 PM, said:

 

We may or may not do another test.  I'm not sure.  I believe the time of the trial was long enough.  I could bring this up to the dev and publishing teams but the probability of it happening will be minimal.

 

Thanks Rai, I appreciate your honesty and help in passing it on. 

I think testing these things is a really positive thing for WG to do. But I think it's so easy to welcome the change just because it's a change. Living with it for a bit longer might let people get used to it past the honeymoon period. Also if it is generally considered popular and set to be introduced permanently, then running a longer test isn't going to hurt anyone. But will give players another chance to try it. 

:)

 

**Edit - I've also had a chance to see the dev stream with Jeff now. Very helpful and informative, thanks. Link for any that missed it (+/-1 MM is from 6.20) :- 

https://youtu.be/3Q_XpGZa0wI


Edited by JelliedPenny08, 12 July 2019 - 08:52 AM.


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View PostJelliedPenny08, on 12 July 2019 - 02:44 AM, said:

 

Thanks Rai, I appreciate your honesty and help in passing it on. 

I think testing these things is a really positive thing for WG to do. But I think it's so easy to welcome the change just because it's a change. Living with it for a bit longer might let people get used to it past the honeymoon period. Also if it is generally considered popular and set to be introduced permanently, then running a longer test isn't going to hurt anyone. But will give players another chance to try it. 

:)

 

**Edit - I've also had a chance to see the dev stream with Jeff now. Very helpful and informative, thanks. Link for any that missed it (+/-1 MM is from 6.20) :- 

https://youtu.be/3Q_XpGZa0wI

 

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View PostACS138, on 11 July 2019 - 08:16 AM, said:

Please do not implement permanent +1/-1!

Being bottom tier -2 can be fun and makes for some of the most exciting matches.

Case in point: last night on NomNom in my bottom tier LTG I ended up MVP with 3 kills, 1900 direct damage and 1500 spotting. That was fun! I'm in no way a consistently good player but for one match at least, I was Super Uni and outplayed the other team, all while bottom tier. It was satisfying and I was rewarded well in XP.
 

 

So, keep +1/-1 but sell pmm tanks with +2/-1. Wonder how many people would buy them.

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View PostYouMadBro413, on 11 July 2019 - 08:32 PM, said:

Make 1/1 MM permanent. Now that we are back to 2/2 MM I have to park half my tanks (not fun being/under performing when 2 tiers down). For those that say it is more challenging being bottom tier, just take out your Brick, Lee, Churchill GC, etc and have fun. Please think of the many players that are either new or not yet good enough for 2/2 MM and get turned off by getting stomped every game. 

 

Watch it there...  Lee is a beast once you upgrade it and know how to play it.  Not that anyone ever keeps it.  It's not that much of a beast.  ;)



ONTOPP2154 #34 Posted 12 July 2019 - 07:42 PM

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I'm already tired of the game again, I have been offered a new tank premium tank that plays +2 tier up I don't know whether to buy or not. With out +1/-1 I don't really care about playing. I have been in the game 5 years.

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Hi, the only thing I can say about +-1 matchmaking - that was so boring even in one week period so I hope it is not gonna be a permanent change. I had so many one tier battles in which one there is no challenge. This is why I play the game so I can have the challenge that's why it is interesting. with +-1 matchmaking there was a lot of same games. No satisfaction to beat up some tier 10 tank with your 8 or no satisfaction when you are top tier and can be dominant on lower tiers. +-1 is good maybe for people who start the game or who not so skilled at the game yet. +-1 matchmaking is so generic as most things nowadays that everyone needs to be given a fair chance. I am not the skilled person at this game but challenges push me to get better to play better. But with +-1 matchmaking push me to turn off the game. I am for changes but for changes which make the game better which is not a case this time. probably not the most popular opinion this time but my opinion which wargaming said that they want to hear.

 



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View PostMr Hecklez, on 12 July 2019 - 11:18 AM, said:

 

So, keep +1/-1 but sell pmm tanks with +2/-1. Wonder how many people would buy them.

 

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View PostMr Hecklez, on 12 July 2019 - 11:18 AM, said:

 

So, keep +1/-1 but sell pmm tanks with +2/-1. Wonder how many people would buy them.

 

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+-1 best idea for wot console period more competitive games

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The games seemed to get better when the mm went back to normal. Keep the old way.

 



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I loved the +1/-1 because I run my tier 8 premiums a lot to make silver, and it's simply frustrating playing against tier 10's nine games out of ten.  I start feeling like that goat staked out in the T-Rex pen in Jurassic Park, which is not fun.  I don't want or need an advantage, just a fair match to show what I can do against my peers.  I believe it will also help players grinding tech tree tanks as they won't have as many quick exits from matches and can gain more xp.  Questions have been raised about tanks with premium matchmaking.  They can be like the Pz. B2, which gets +0/-1 mm, or in other words always top tier.  If they don't like that they are just complaining because they like complaining.  As for the people that claim to like the challenge of being -2,  just play tier 10's exclusively, lose heaps of silver every game from prem ammo spam, and watch your win rates decline with no tier 8's to beat up on.  Thanks RaiBOT01 for your continued efforts at making WOT a better and more fun game by listening to our feedback (code for venting).  P.S.  I also miss the Tanking w/ RaiBOT01.  Though I only got to play with you a couple times it was alot of fun.  I did my best trying to cover you so you wouldn't yell "Oh, biscuits!!!" too often.  Happy tanking. 

 


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