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scwirpeo #1 Posted 17 July 2019 - 03:49 AM

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So we all know the British lights just made it to PC and the balance is the new meme for this game. So I think we need a thread where we all ask CB to absolutely not Nerf these tanks when they come to console. So WG for all of us if we are still here when these tanks make it to console, please for the love of your own players don't make the decision I know you are already contemplating. Just don't please.

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Rubbelito #2 Posted 17 July 2019 - 04:08 AM

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Watched QB's vid of the Manticore (?). That ammo capacity... lol

Yeah, they're already pre-nerfed what it looks like, so no need to nerf them further when they come to console.



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View PostRubbelito, on 16 July 2019 - 09:08 PM, said:

Watched QB's vid of the Manticore (?). That ammo capacity... lol

Yeah, they're already pre-nerfed what it looks like, so no need to nerf them further when they come to console.

 

The DPM is hilarious, it's 900 lower than the Sherridan. While they seem pre nerfed, that won't stop CB from going even farther for no reason.

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To be perfectly fair, the newest Eagle 7 and Falcon T92 are actually buffed compared to their PC counterparts.  If the UK lights don’t over perform(not bloody likely in their current state) they’ll get rebalanced to fit on Console.  They only nerf the PC tanks when they are clearly OP over there..... even if the Console players still want the OP version. (Example: Defender got nerfed , Chrysler didn’t, both tanks are still borderline OP)  Asking WG “not to nerf” a tank doesn’t matter if the data on balance suggests that it’s too good where it is, at least to WG anyway.

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View PostBrogueOne, on 16 July 2019 - 11:37 PM, said:

To be perfectly fair, the newest Eagle 7 and Falcon T92 are actually buffed compared to their PC counterparts. If the UK lights don’t over perform(not bloody likely in their current state) they’ll get rebalanced to fit on Console. They only nerf the PC tanks when they are clearly OP over there..... even if the Console players still want the OP version. (Example: Defender got nerfed , Chrysler didn’t, both tanks are still borderline OP) Asking WG “not to nerf” a tank doesn’t matter if the data on balance suggests that it’s too good where it is, at least to WG anyway.

Honestly WG have done a rather good job at balancing most tanks that are ported over from PC, even if there have been a few tanks that were nerfed a bit too hard (like the LT-432). I imagine that it's mostly just the majorly over-nerfed Italian tanks that make everyone feel that WG will mess up other new tech tree lines from PC. 


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I've been really wanting a Brit Light line for ages (ironic given we currently have fewer Brit Lights now compared to when I started to play) - I play Lights an awful lot and am a bit of a Brit fan-boy.

 

I worry slightly that it will end up badly ie tanks whose stats on paper make it look like it's not worth grinding up the line ie when compared to Lights at those tiers in other nations.

 

I believe WG are going to have to implement this carefully if this is to be a decent new line. I have some hope they will do so; only time will tell.



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It would be funny if WGCB actually buffed and balanced them for us.

That would have PC community going crazy.

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View PostJherry Angel, on 17 July 2019 - 01:10 AM, said:

I've been really wanting a Brit Light line for ages (ironic given we currently have fewer Brit Lights now compared to when I started to play) - I play Lights an awful lot and am a bit of a Brit fan-boy.

 

I worry slightly that it will end up badly ie tanks whose stats on paper make it look like it's not worth grinding up the line ie when compared to Lights at those tiers in other nations.

 

I believe WG are going to have to implement this carefully if this is to be a decent new line. I have some hope they will do so; only time will tell.

 

What British Lights have we lost?

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The Polish line is not really stellar......That line was nerfed some as I recall.
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View PostFusionStar287, on 17 July 2019 - 04:43 AM, said:

Honestly WG have done a rather good job at balancing most tanks that are ported over from PC, even if there have been a few tanks that were nerfed a bit too hard (like the LT-432). I imagine that it's mostly just the majorly over-nerfed Italian tanks that make everyone feel that WG will mess up other new tech tree lines from PC. 

The Italians are still on the high side of performance here...... ironic when you consider the high cost of owning a Ferrari.  Just instead of paying exorbitant fuel, insurance, and maintenance costs to be cool and go fast, you end up suffering a long reload to get a tank which is still fairly dangerous when fully loaded.... that also goes fast.  I think they also balance “most” things fine, but the Italians are a case of good game balance that resulted in a loss of fun balance.  But even still..... there’s always the possibility they’ll have a reason to improve them; we should probably see a balance pass in the next couple updates.



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View Postdonny007-THX, on 17 July 2019 - 03:34 PM, said:

The Polish line is not really stellar......That line was nerfed some as I recall.

 

I wouldn't have ground that line even on PC. Yet on here they decided they were just too good at being bad 705s so they had to fix that.

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View PostBrogueOne, on 16 July 2019 - 09:37 PM, said:

To be perfectly fair, the newest Eagle 7 and Falcon T92 are actually buffed compared to their PC counterparts. If the UK lights don’t over perform(not bloody likely in their current state) they’ll get rebalanced to fit on Console. They only nerf the PC tanks when they are clearly OP over there..... even if the Console players still want the OP version. (Example: Defender got nerfed , Chrysler didn’t, both tanks are still borderline OP) Asking WG “not to nerf” a tank doesn’t matter if the data on balance suggests that it’s too good where it is, at least to WG anyway.

 

We were told for years PC stats can't be used to balance console. From the same people who then use PC stats to balance multiple tank lines before they ever even saw the live server on console. That is by CBs own definition of balance not good balance, irregardless of if it was necessary or not.

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View PostPit Friend, on 17 July 2019 - 10:25 PM, said:

 

What British Lights have we lost?

 

The Crusader was a Light when I started - made into a Medium an update or two ago.  I have a great fondness for her - she was the tank in which I learned how to play in properly (after a year or so of playing without playing, if you get what I mean), my first 3-mark, and only ever '100%-er'.  Still my most played tank.  



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View PostJherry Angel, on 18 July 2019 - 06:34 AM, said:

 

The Crusader was a Light when I started - made into a Medium an update or two ago.  I have a great fondness for her - she was the tank in which I learned how to play in properly (after a year or so of playing without playing, if you get what I mean), my first 3-mark, and only ever '100%-er'.  Still my most played tank.  

 

It's a solid tank, similar playstyle to the T-34, i have mine chilling in my garage for when i can be bothered to train a crew for it.


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View PostToxicBullbog, on 18 July 2019 - 01:03 PM, said:

 

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Not angry anymore, huh? :P

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View PostRubbelito, on 18 July 2019 - 11:21 AM, said:

 

Not angry anymore, huh? :P

 

I still have my moments. :teethhappy:

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View PostToxicBullbog, on 18 July 2019 - 01:29 PM, said:

 

I still have my moments. :teethhappy:

 

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View PostHaloPro058, on 17 July 2019 - 01:33 PM, said:

It would be funny if WGCB actually buffed and balanced them for us.

That would have PC community going crazy.

 

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View PostPit Friend, on 17 July 2019 - 10:25 PM, said:

 

What British Lights have we lost?

 

Crusader got reclassified as a medium a while back, losing it's ability to keep camo while moving. It went unnoticed by the community.


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View PostBigHundy, on 18 July 2019 - 05:48 AM, said:

 

Do they even know we exist ?

 

Circonflexes Quickybaby and Mighty Jingles mentioned console in one of their recent vids. so yes, some PC plebs know of our existence ;)







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