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ABAOUIA #21 Posted 19 July 2019 - 07:55 PM

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View PostABAOUIA, on 19 July 2019 - 05:31 PM, said:

 

Nice :€

 

How is the Waffle doing ?

 

I was more or less parasiting on it's reputation by trying to be sarcastic, could have used the Deathstar or simular ofthen ranted about tanks.

 

I just found the awnser a bit easy



panthermark #22 Posted 19 July 2019 - 08:01 PM

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View PostMaxChaos24, on 19 July 2019 - 09:48 AM, said:

It's performing only average. 

 

I know you know better than this....

 

Between this comment, and the one you made in another thread where you said "you don't see a problem" in regards to MM tank balance not being an issue sounds like protectionism.  

 

 


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View PostProngHorn134, on 19 July 2019 - 06:28 PM, said:

 

I think you are reading your stat page upside down. Seriously, I feel the tank is OP and may need a tweek with reload time or pen.

 

Definitely don't need any nerfs to it's penetration, that's already quite low. Maeby top speed could be limited to 45 or 50.

BigHundy #24 Posted 20 July 2019 - 12:16 AM

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I’ve said this from the beginning.

If you leave the machine as is, buff the tvp’s gun to compensate.

 


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CleverJoey1844 #25 Posted 20 July 2019 - 03:29 AM

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It's a tier10 heavy. If it's OP you should be averaging 6k damage per game!! I don't see many players getting above 3500 myself..

USSWISCONSIN94 #26 Posted 20 July 2019 - 04:39 AM

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View PostCleverJoey1844, on 19 July 2019 - 10:29 PM, said:

It's a tier10 heavy. If it's OP you should be averaging 6k damage per game!! I don't see many players getting above 3500 myself..

 

Just because potatoes don't get that much avg doesn't mean the tank isn't OP or broken. The Waffle and HESHStars are prime examples of this


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View PostFusionStar287, on 19 July 2019 - 10:28 AM, said:

I've said it before, but the Machine is only "blatantly OP" in the hands of a good player, while at the same time worse players are better off in most other tier X heavies and mediums. It's a tank with a very high skill ceiling but a very low skill floor, and while it might still be too good currently it's not too good by a very large a margin.

 

I have to agree with you on this

f1mitku #28 Posted 20 July 2019 - 06:13 AM

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I’ll take care for The Machine stats to keep them low and average enough.

It doesn’t need nerf.

But all nerfs lately and mainly from 4.6 (incl. TVP 50/51, Maus, VK45B, Type 4&5 Heavy, E50 etc.) should be reverted. 


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View PostCleverJoey1844, on 20 July 2019 - 03:29 AM, said:

It's a tier10 heavy. If it's OP you should be averaging 6k damage per game!! I don't see many players getting above 3500 myself..

 

 

Is this the same kind of logic as it's  not op because it can be killed.

 

 


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The machine is above average imo but far from OP. If it had a normal gun it would be super broken but the tvp gun sucks on that platform

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View PostJohn Arrowsmith, on 20 July 2019 - 07:06 AM, said:

 

 

Is this the same kind of logic as it's  not op because it can be killed.

 

 

 

I don't see the OP players talk about. Honestly at tier 10 i can name 3 tanks that are truly OP. And the Machine isn't 1 of them. Played well it is decent. It will bounce some shots- but again skill of player makes any tank better or worse

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It's a very capable tank and when played to it's strengths it's difficult to deal with properly positioned. 

 

When allowed to roam around freely it's very dangerous ... But for all it's advantages it still has a slappy gun ... Like a sports car without enough oomph.



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I myself don't think its OP. What I have noticed is that a lot of new tanks that are being introduced into the game are getting the tag as OP by people and creating enough crying about it until the creators nurf said tank and make it useless creating resentment amongst the players that play and like the tank. It's a vicious circle of negativity that I think should stop but I doubt it will. Good luck on the battlefield folks, I'll see you out there. 

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View PostXDukeSavageX, on 20 July 2019 - 10:00 AM, said:

I myself don't think its OP. What I have noticed is that a lot of new tanks that are being introduced into the game are getting the tag as OP by people and creating enough crying about it until the creators nurf said tank and make it useless creating resentment amongst the players that play and like the tank. It's a vicious circle of negativity that I think should stop but I doubt it will. Good luck on the battlefield folks, I'll see you out there. 

 

yeah,  everyone thinks the asbo is balanced.:rolleyes:

 

I have the tank, I'm not even that good in it but know fine well it's op.   

 


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View PostXDukeSavageX, on 20 July 2019 - 10:00 AM, said:

I myself don't think its OP. What I have noticed is that a lot of new tanks that are being introduced into the game are getting the tag as OP by people and creating enough crying about it until the creators nurf said tank and make it useless creating resentment amongst the players that play and like the tank. It's a vicious circle of negativity that I think should stop but I doubt it will. Good luck on the battlefield folks, I'll see you out there. 

 

Half of the people who said its op never played a single battle in this tank. Personally i dont think its overpowered. Its on the same level than our top tier X tanks S.Conq, 5A, Patton, FV and 430u

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View PostSirlceCream, on 20 July 2019 - 10:27 AM, said:

 

Half of the people who said its op never played a single battle in this tank. Personally i dont think its overpowered. Its on the same level than our top tier X tanks S.Conq, 5A, Patton, FV and 430u

 

yeah, let's see how T10 turns out when it's full of 5 man platoons of machines, Sounds fantastic.    Having seen what a 2 man platoon can do I'm not certain this tank in it's current state is good for the game.

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View PostJohn Arrowsmith, on 20 July 2019 - 10:34 AM, said:

 

yeah, let's see how T10 turns out when it's full of 5 man platoons of machines, Sounds fantastic.    Having seen what a 2 man platoon can do I'm not certain this tank in it's current state is good for the game.

 

5man platoon is always broken no matter which tank they play. Or do you think a platoon of 5 430u, 50b or batchat working together is better? 

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View PostSirlceCream, on 20 July 2019 - 05:27 AM, said:

 

Half of the people who said its op never played a single battle in this tank. Personally i dont think its overpowered. Its on the same level than our top tier X tanks S.Conq, 5A, Patton, FV and 430u

 

Points out some of the best tier 10s in the game lol. S Conq, 5A, Patton (to a point), FV and 430U are OP

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View PostUSSWISCONSIN94, on 20 July 2019 - 11:02 AM, said:

 

Points out some of the best tier 10s in the game lol. S Conq, 5A, Patton (to a point), FV and 430U are OP

 

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View PostSirlceCream, on 20 July 2019 - 10:50 AM, said:

 

5man platoon is always broken no matter which tank they play. Or do you think a platoon of 5 430u, 50b or batchat working together is better? 

 

 

It has speed it shouldn't have,   meet a fast medium whilst charging to the front?   No problem, just ram it.   The tank is stupid.


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