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Shockwave IIC #61 Posted 21 July 2019 - 06:32 PM

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View Postanimatethant, on 21 July 2019 - 07:46 AM, said:

That's part of the problem though.

 

1 machine (or any decent autoloader) by itself and the impact is variable. 

 

Play 4 top tier autoloaders with competent players and you have to try pretty hard to lose.

 

That has sod all to do with Auto loaders, That will happen with any good tank.

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View PostSchiavoser, on 19 July 2019 - 04:33 PM, said:

There's no good reason for the Machine to have the Czech cannon that performs better than any Czech cannon anymore. It's just totally out of place. The Machine intraclip reload speed should be identical to the TVP T 50/51. The Machine would still be an OP tank, but at least the parts would make sense.

 

And they released the Pudel with stock characteristic of the TT version.   WTH...

Mahrs #63 Posted 22 July 2019 - 01:04 AM

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Concur with the OP - must be the best medium in the game. The only way I could see doing poorly in this tank is if a. you don't know how to use an auto loader or b. you derp about like an idiot and think you're invincible.

 

I had a green Machine that I spent most of a match just trying to keep up with in my Obj-140... Hopefully it has terrible camo, because it's got the same speed and better armor than my 140. 



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please nerf type 5 heavy more(especially in mobility, it is still to fast), do not touch the machine
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SpandexRockstar #65 Posted 22 July 2019 - 10:53 AM

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View PostMahrs, on 22 July 2019 - 01:04 AM, said:

Concur with the OP - must be the best medium in the game. The only way I could see doing poorly in this tank is if a. you don't know how to use an auto loader or b. you derp about like an idiot and think you're invincible.

 

I had a green Machine that I spent most of a match just trying to keep up with in my Obj-140... Hopefully it has terrible camo, because it's got the same speed and better armor than my 140. 

 

I chased down an AMX 13 90 all over the north of Ardennes in my Machine :)

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View PostShockwave IIC, on 21 July 2019 - 10:32 AM, said:

 

That has sod all to do with Auto loaders, That will happen with any good tank.

 

not exactly. 

 

Any "good" tank sure.

 

But the mobility and focus fire ability, output and recovery of the machine is something else. I couldn't imagine coordinated platoon play ...



Shockwave IIC #67 Posted 22 July 2019 - 11:58 AM

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View PostSpandexRockstar, on 22 July 2019 - 10:53 AM, said:

 

I chased down an AMX 13 90 all over the north of Ardennes in my Machine :)

 

Interesting, because my last game I had a Waffle keep pace with me until it hit it's top speed, so the Machines acceleration isn't all that. And while climbing a hill I lost enough speed that an E4 and Chief managed to round the corner at the bottom before I cleared the top.

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View PostShockwave IIC, on 22 July 2019 - 11:58 AM, said:

 

Interesting, because my last game I had a Waffle keep pace with me until it hit it's top speed, so the Machines acceleration isn't all that. And while climbing a hill I lost enough speed that an E4 and Chief managed to round the corner at the bottom before I cleared the top.

 

He was slightly faster on that terrain but weaving about (think ACM scissors) and no doubt crapping himself which contributed to my gain on him. He should have circled me but chose to run which was his mistake. I agree, the acceleration isn't great, but once you get the speed up this thing is a real surprise for the reds. The AMX 13 90 has 3 less km/h than the Machine ( 64 vs 67) but a bit more power to weight ratio (27 vs 20) so watch out lights, Imma gonna chase you!

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I do have a problem with the Machine having the strengths it has, but I am working on the contract. The thing is, I feel like everyone knows it's basically OP. So once the contract is over, they could then say 'it is over-performing' and nerf it. Right now, the eye-test shows me that it is performing better than average, but that is only to my eye and can't speak for the whole player-base. Also, I have no data to back this but I feel like when I first got the Stubbs it was awesome, like a mini T49. Now it seems like garage. I thought some ppl on here claim it was nerfed (it sure seems like it), but not sure exactly. but if so, then who is to say that they can't do the same with the Machine? Which is why I think it should've been a bit more balanced in the first place. But just my opinion.






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