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WEREW0LF 8541 #21 Posted 08 August 2019 - 05:56 PM

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Of course, you're going to get your die hard dedicated gamers who will state "You can't hack or cheat on this game OR console it uses a dedicated server". Duhhhhhhhh Yes you can and it does happen or do you use two cups and a piece of string - anything that uses an electronic impulse and logarithm  i.e the internet/ signal can be manipulated if you have the right equipment and resources. It happens on (pc) and console games such as COD and HALO. You got players with some big egos and bank accounts who justh can't fathom the very thought of being beaten or losing and they will cheat and we honest gamers just play honestly. My soon to be Son in law works in the Cyber business and says "Why do you think ALL big companies do (upgrades)!

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^^both of your examples are client side not server side. 

 

Literally all game data is stored on server side. Which means that if I were to hack and give myself more hp I would have just given everyone more hp.

If the client returns different data than the server the server will just overrule it.

This is why server reticle is a thing. If doesn't matter one but what is going on on your end. 

 

Seriously people it's not hard to understand, take off the tin foil and learn how it works.


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WEREW0LF 8541 #23 Posted 08 August 2019 - 06:19 PM

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If you got the know how, money and resources it can be done yes or no! It is not a matter of sides it is a matter of will ego.

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View PostWEREW0LF 8541, on 08 August 2019 - 01:19 PM, said:

If you got the know how, money and resources it can be done yes or no! It is not a matter of sides it is a matter of will ego.

 

will and ego are irrelevant facts are undeniable.

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View PostWEREW0LF 8541, on 08 August 2019 - 12:19 PM, said:

If you got the know how, money and resources it can be done yes or no! It is not a matter of sides it is a matter of will ego.

 

:facepalm:

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Good thing I don't have epilepsy.

That first vid would have definitely triggered it.

tank - tank - tank - tank - tank - tank - tank - tank - tank - tank - 

I could feel the orbits of my eyes constricting when watching it.

 

OT

My honest guess on this situation;

The guy that shot you may be playing on the 360 and none of what you see landscape wise was in his field of view.



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A collective "Will" and "Finance" and "Egos" made this company so yes, it is "Relevant" that is called an applicable philosophy and cheats and hacks do exist and it hurts us honest gamers. Some of us play for the fun of it and not statistics.

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View PostWEREW0LF 8541, on 08 August 2019 - 01:19 PM, said:

If you got the know how, money and resources it can be done yes or no! It is not a matter of sides it is a matter of will ego.

 

View PostWEREW0LF 8541, on 08 August 2019 - 02:18 PM, said:

A collective "Will" and "Finance" and "Egos" made this company so yes, it is "Relevant" that is called an applicable philosophy and cheats and hacks do exist and it hurts us honest gamers. Some of us play for the fun of it and not statistics.

 

It's obvious you have zero idea what you are talking about  given that you are presented with facts on why you are wrong and can do nothing but repeat "if there's a will there's a way"

 

If that was the case I could turn myself green and fly.

You can't just ignore the fundamental principals of something.


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I mean you literally talked about dedicated servers and then listed two games that don't even have them.... 

 

C'mon 


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View PostV4nquished79, on 08 August 2019 - 02:15 AM, said:

...and what is this? Where he is aiming, I'm in The Machine? I was trying to hit the upper of his turret but he was under the horizon and my shot hit the ground. My turret had no holes in the game, neither on the replay and he was on Xbox One.

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/v4nquished79/video/77949567

 

Here he even shot through the mountain and the ground in front of me:

 

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/v4nquished79/video/77949502

 

Hello, 

 

When using the sniper mode in replays, it's trying its best to represent where it's aiming but it will be off (usually higher or lower than where they are really aiming). Taking a look at the video, it looks like he is just sniping the cupola. While it may seem like they are shooting through the ground, it's just grass. :honoring:



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View PostMaxChaos24, on 08 August 2019 - 07:52 PM, said:

 

Hello, 

 

When using the sniper mode in replays, it's trying its best to represent where it's aiming but it will be off (usually higher or lower than where they are really aiming). Taking a look at the video, it looks like he is just sniping the cupola. While it may seem like they are shooting through the ground, it's just grass. :honoring:

 

Alrighty WOT shoots thru grass, ahem not game coders smokin, but a drain pipe, on a building, can stop a 50 ton tank stoned cold and soon dead. Now that I think about it disregard statement about coders not smokin

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View PostMaxChaos24, on 08 August 2019 - 07:52 PM, said:

 

Hello, 

 

When using the sniper mode in replays, it's trying its best to represent where it's aiming but it will be off (usually higher or lower than where they are really aiming). Taking a look at the video, it looks like he is just sniping the cupola. While it may seem like they are shooting through the ground, it's just grass. :honoring:

Max, can you see my tank on the videos? I can't. And ok, it's grass, but i have 1000 attempts to shoot like this - every time i hit the ground. 

 

I never played WOT on 360 but i'm thinking than it lacks some textures, that's why such things may be are possible. When 360 will be removed and we will get all PC good things?



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The only way other people can out play me is if they are cheating.... yup that's always a good thing to fall back on.

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View PostWEREW0LF 8541, on 08 August 2019 - 06:56 PM, said:

Of course, you're going to get your die hard dedicated gamers who will state "You can't hack or cheat on this game OR console it uses a dedicated server". Duhhhhhhhh Yes you can and it does happen or do you use two cups and a piece of string - anything that uses an electronic impulse and logarithm  i.e the internet/  It happens on (pc) and signal can be manipulated if you have the right equipment and resources.console games such as COD and HALO. You got players with some big egos and bank accounts who justh can't fathom the very thought of being beaten or losing and they will cheat and we honest gamers just play honestly. My soon to be Son in law works in the Cyber business and says "Why do you think ALL big companies do (upgrades)!

 

So what would you do with a server side game? 


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View PostIBROX 04, on 08 August 2019 - 03:22 PM, said:

 

So what would you do with a server side game? 

I doubt he knows anything if he's talking about hacking the signals of a server side always online console game



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View PostV4nquished79, on 08 August 2019 - 06:15 AM, said:

...and what is this? Where he is aiming, I'm in The Machine? I was trying to hit the upper of his turret but he was under the horizon and my shot hit the ground. My turret had no holes in the game, neither on the replay and he was on Xbox One.

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/v4nquished79/video/77949567

 

Here he even shot through the mountain and the ground in front of me:

 

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/v4nquished79/video/77949502

I’ve been shot like that many times, and shot others similarly. When you are being really meticulous about exposing just your turret you will eventually and randomly end up in situations like this. Similar to head-glitching skill in many shooters. 

 

No one is cheating, it is just that physics perspective in this game is not ideal. I noticed it on numerous times - even on generally flat surfaces if you do not see the enemy when your turret is completely hidden(including top portion of your turret) does not not mean that enemy does not see you.



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^^ I've don't it before with low velocity high shell arc guns like the E-100 and 268. You can almost curve it over a crest. Also it's kind of like server reticle in that the server sometimes sees the actual hitbox of the terrain slightly lower than what it sends to the client, which would be why you can almost get shot through the top of a hill. The feedback loop between the server and client can never completely close.

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Sometimes I play derp guns.  When I do, I'm looking for people in the position OP is in.  I know I can, without even being able to manually aim at any part of his tank, push rb + rt and loop a shell directly into him.  And there is really nothing he can do about it.

 

They have pretty much the same thing on PC, just watch Circon's videos from running his Jumbo.



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View PostTemplarKnight75, on 08 August 2019 - 09:26 PM, said:

I doubt he knows anything if he's talking about hacking the signals of a server side always online console game

 

True, although players should actually read about server side and client side , it's actually an interesting read and perhaps they'd understand a little bit more. 

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View PostIBROX 04, on 08 August 2019 - 03:45 PM, said:

 

True, although players should actually read about server side and client side , it's actually an interesting read and perhaps they'd understand a little bit more. 

 

saw a video about different server connection types and it helped me figure out which games had [edited]set ups and which were lagging on my end and the best ways to handle that. People here really should take the to learn more about the games we play and how they work In general it would curb many complaints 




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