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Which Tier 10 tanks should be nerfed or buffed?


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Poll: Tier 10 nerfs and buffs (50 members have cast votes)

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Which T10 should be nerfed?

  1. The Machine (21 votes [25.61%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.61%

  2. FV215B (183) (17 votes [20.73%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.73%

  3. WFT E100 (16 votes [19.51%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 19.51%

  4. Obj 430u (23 votes [28.05%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.05%

  5. Bat 25t (5 votes [6.10%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.10%

Which T10 should be buffed?

  1. 113 (11 votes [13.41%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.41%

  2. E50M (16 votes [19.51%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 19.51%

  3. WZ-113G FT (3 votes [3.66%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.66%

  4. Progetto M40 (19 votes [23.17%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 23.17%

  5. Type 5 (3 votes [3.66%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.66%

  6. Maus (4 votes [4.88%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.88%

  7. FV215b (3 votes [3.66%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.66%

  8. AMX 30 B (9 votes [10.98%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.98%

  9. 121 (10 votes [12.20%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.20%

  10. 60TP (4 votes [4.88%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.88%

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Balgehakt88 #1 Posted 09 August 2019 - 07:22 AM


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Hallo tankers,


I started this topic to find out what tanks at tier 10 shoudl be nerfed or buffed. For this I excluded lights and artillery. Further I only mentioned the tank, and not which aspect should be buffed. 

This list is based on tanks I rarely see performing "good" and tanks I see performing "good" even in the hands of less experienced players.


Please let me know you opinion by voting.

La meccanica della emozioni  :justwait:

SirlceCream #2 Posted 09 August 2019 - 07:31 AM

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Nerf slightly: WZ 5a, S.Conq, obj 430 U, FV 4202, Patton, Machine, E4, 183er guns.  With slightly i mean sligthly and not nerf DpM by 27% and make them unplayable WG.

Buff: 121!!!! K91!!!, TVP!!!, E50M,  Progetto, 113, obj 430?, Obj V4, IS-4, Type-5, Badger, AMX 30b, wz 132-1, AMX M4, Maus, sTB-1 (tiny bit better gunhandling)


I dont mind alot of more minor buffs to tanks like 50b (gunhandling should be better) chieftain ( bit better p/w ratio), unnerf batchat but thats not as important.


The problem is WG balance tanks (if they do) maybe one time in a year. So instead of nerf for example S.Conq reload by 0.5s and wait some weeks and take another look at this tank they would nerf it into a ground to make sure its "balanced" and ont touch this tank for the next 2 years. So before you do this dont nerf any tanks and buff instead tanks above. i dont ask for much just make them playable.


i dont vote because its a pretty bad poll like missing and wrong tanks like batchat and max answers. sorry OP :P

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Hallowed PRIEST #3 Posted 09 August 2019 - 07:41 AM

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HESH is too strong on 183, The 121 needs some depression love because 3.5 is dumb.


DwarfOnDrugs #4 Posted 09 August 2019 - 11:06 AM


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Lets be realistic we don’t need to even look at that poll to know what two will be most selected.


Maxipotzac #5 Posted 09 August 2019 - 12:20 PM


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I ask those nine voters: What are you want nerfing about the WT E100?

- no armor
- no camo
- reloads slowly
- slow
- inaccurate

So where else would nerf be? Because it is already weak in the current meta.

Rather take it out of the game, let go proudly the old man not humiliated......

English is not my native language, but who cares? (  so do not write to me in this case )  ;)

Z_X_GriizzlY #6 Posted 09 August 2019 - 01:02 PM

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I find it hilarious how no one thinks the type 5 should get a buff... clearly a one-sided poll not to have the object 705a up for a nerf. 183 and hesh are fine... waffle is fine... bat is fine...  the machine is fine and object 430u is fine...

Maybe buff some others but overall it's the play style and skill of the driver that makes some tanks op not the tank itself. Maus and type 5 are obsolete really don't think even a buff would save them 2.

Darth Wookius #7 Posted 10 August 2019 - 06:04 AM


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Machine needs a nerf maybe downgrade the autoloader to three shots and definitely nerf the traverse speed. It should not be able to turn and keep up with flanking tanks so easily.

P BHELA #8 Posted 12 August 2019 - 03:56 PM


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How does the waffle need a nerf? It has 2 concealment, 1 minute reload, garbage paper armour and pen is balanced at 270. Like this survey options are soo stupid. The deathstar doesnt even need a nerf. Are u kidding me? It has one of the longest aim time for a tier 10. Shells cost 8k each and it has weak armour. Nobody will play the deathstar or the waffle if it gets nerfed. This survey options are soo bad. 

P BHELA #9 Posted 12 August 2019 - 03:58 PM


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Guys this survey is useless and irrelevant. Im not gonna vote seriously? A waffle and deathstar to be nerfed? And why isnt the e 100 in the buff options? Nobody plays it. This survey is a fail.

Potato QQ #10 Posted 12 August 2019 - 08:03 PM


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Waffle should be removed just like PC did. There's nothing balanced about it.


And DeathStar should get the PC stats by lowering the pen. 


Problem Solved. 

Jb6534 #11 Posted 13 August 2019 - 03:06 AM


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I have both and tbh they're perfectly fine, the only people complaining about these tanks are people who can't bother their backside to grind the tank themselves so complain about them on the forums.


For starters I have 0 idea why the Batchat is on the poll since it is perfectly balanced, we don't need another TVP situation (for people who are unaware, the TVP 50/51 used to have a really good intra clip reload which wargaming console took away for 0 reason and now the tank is a heaping turd). Try grinding out the deathstar and waffentrager E100 and see how fun they are to play when you spend half the game missing or being focused by the entire team.  The machine's gun basically requires you to fire premium because it cannot pen the front of anything but people insist it needs a nerf because they let machine players get their sides and rear cause they don't pay attention to the map.

The only 2 tanks that I think need a buff on that list are the progetto M40 and the FV215b as they're completely substandard in the meta of the game atm. The FV less so however as if you know how to play it properly it is still a devestating tank to fight against. 


I've said my peace so rip into this all you want but you can't refute what I'm saying.



HAIR OOH INN #12 Posted 13 August 2019 - 03:48 AM


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Nothing should EVER be nerfed. 


ExRaided #13 Posted 13 August 2019 - 08:47 PM


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I was  going to give some opinions here on what I thought but for the most part things should probably be left alone. I'm not great waffle player but I can roll out and do 3k before I'm killed and have a second clip loaded so I feel it should be nerfed. And the 183 was my first 10. I was pretty good in it and now I can't make it work to save my [edited]. Rarely pen shots and to this day I've only been one shot by them less than ten times. And the plain old E-100 isn't in the buff category because it doesn't need one. The speed is great for the size and armor of the tank, The armor is amazing if you can angle. The gun can be debated but I have no issues even sniping with it. Every tank is different for every person. And I think this is my first post in like two years. Am I back?



jellymonster0 #14 Posted 13 August 2019 - 11:03 PM


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Buff. Krangvan, TvP, polish tier 10, progetto  defo!!! Stb 1, 113, 121, Obj 268, E50 M

Nerf: defo machine, e4. And don't nerf rest, just stop nerfing tanks that really don't need them 

XEboi #15 Posted 16 August 2019 - 09:11 AM


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I see both of us who play the 60tp voted hehe

John-berg1995 #16 Posted 16 August 2019 - 11:06 AM


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The waffle doesn't need a nerf per say. I still think it doesn't fit the game at all. I would remove it out of it's extremeness. it's literally so different to any other tank it just feels to much. At that point why doesn't Germany have the 800mm railway gun as a tier X Arty? Just balance it by giving it a 6 minute reload and idk ??? 67 accuracy with idk?? 23 second aim time. That sounds pretty balanced right? oh...but if it lands a shell even a grid square away you die instantly.

See that's extreme, and for me so is the waffle, and the near 2k alpha strike from the 183, it's just to extreme.

There's a reason it was replaced by the grille 15 and badger. They don't fit the game.

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