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DrH 666 #1 Posted 09 August 2019 - 09:17 AM

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Thank you Wargaming for testing +/-1 match making and less RNG. It's a sign that you

sometimes listen to the community and I really hope you bring both to the final game.

 

I guess most players won't even recognize a difference in less RNG but I think it's a great improvent to make WOT

less an arcade game. Some players also don't agree with +/-1 match making because they mostly play tier10 or solo.

 

Anyway... thanks Wargaming, I think both changes will be great. Next thing to go: arty nerf please :D

 



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View PostDrH 666, on 09 August 2019 - 09:17 AM, said:

 

Thank you Wargaming for testing +/-1 match making and less RNG. It's a sign that you

sometimes listen to the community and I really hope you bring both to the final game.

 

I guess most players won't even recognize a difference in less RNG but I think it's a great improvent to make WOT

less an arcade game. Some players also don't agree with +/-1 match making because they mostly play tier10 or solo.

 

Anyway... thanks Wargaming, I think both changes will be great. Next thing to go: arty nerf please :D

 

That part in bold is absolute bull..... the fact that the game becomes easy mode and loses all awesome rewarding games when being bottomtier and still finishing top is way more likely.... u know some people actually learn the game and all

tanks to know what to do, even when being bottomtier


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TransparentBlue #3 Posted 09 August 2019 - 05:27 PM

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Both changes make the game more arcade and less battle simulator.

Both changes are very bad choices.

99 of 100 kids would choose candy for dinner but that's not what's good for them in the long term.

DrH 666 #4 Posted 09 August 2019 - 06:44 PM

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View PostBoereJack, on 09 August 2019 - 03:01 PM, said:

That part in bold is absolute bull..... the fact that the game becomes easy mode and loses all awesome rewarding games when being bottomtier and still finishing top is way more likely.... u know some people actually learn the game and all

tanks to know what to do, even when being bottomtier

 

It's ok to be -2 bottom tier because of the challenge... hell yeah that's what unicums are made of ;)

 



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rng keeps the game interesting, all good players can operate with it, wanting to remove it indicates you are a bad player who cant' deal with changing variables  

 

actually.....hmm....same with +2-2 MM.....so i see a pattern here

 

git gud



DrH 666 #6 Posted 10 August 2019 - 09:33 PM

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View Posthexine, on 10 August 2019 - 12:35 AM, said:

rng keeps the game interesting, all good players can operate with it, wanting to remove it indicates you are a bad player who cant' deal with changing variables  

 

actually.....hmm....same with +2-2 MM.....so i see a pattern here

 

git gud

 

 

It's just a discussion... and in my opionion RNG is just like gambling gameplay. And 25% RNG on precision, penetration and damage is a lot of gambling. 

Why don't you just bring an argument why 25% variance on penetration is totally realistic and makes sense (of course apart from angled armor and shot range). 

I think a bit of RNG is ok and realistic, especially on precision... but 25% is a lot. 

 

Looks like Wargaming is also thinking about this topic, otherwise they wouldn't make these test events... right?

 

And I know the WOT community is salty as f***... Mr. Lowtier Driver, but no reason to call somebody a bad player just because of an opinion... 

Sure I admit that I'm not a great player and far from Unicum... but being called a "bad player" from somebody

who played 23k battles in tier 5 tanks (average) and was only able to achive 1,4k is just ridiculous :D

Can't even take someone serious who only owns 4 tier10 tanks and one of them is arty :D

 



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View PostBoereJack, on 09 August 2019 - 02:01 PM, said:

That part in bold is absolute bull..... the fact that the game becomes easy mode and loses all awesome rewarding games when being bottomtier and still finishing top is way more likely.... u know some people actually learn the game and all

tanks to know what to do, even when being bottomtier

 

whats easier. having -2 to beat up on  . . . . . . . . 

 

 . . . . .  or the whole red team having a gun that can punish you.

 

+1 isnt easy mode. its more-balanced-mode.



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View PostDrH 666, on 09 August 2019 - 04:17 AM, said:

 

Thank you Wargaming for testing +/-1 match making and less RNG. It's a sign that you

sometimes listen to the community and I really hope you bring both to the final game.

 

I guess most players won't even recognize a difference in less RNG but I think it's a great improvent to make WOT

less an arcade game. Some players also don't agree with +/-1 match making because they mostly play tier10 or solo.

 

Anyway... thanks Wargaming, I think both changes will be great. Next thing to go: arty nerf please :D

 

 

i can say it makes for a more consistent damage output  but instead of ten percent i think 15 would be a better fit so players don't get their hopes up on too much consistency .. and arty nerf?  what needs to be nerfed? ceratinly not damage  because on average in my 261 i do 600 a shot if im lucky  what needs to be nerfed? the armor is thin as anything, the mobility is [edited]  the reload process is long as hell and the aim time  is just as bad along with the accuracy and on top of that the lowest hit points of all tanks.... what needs to be nerfed?

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Is that real?

Cause I did have only tier X games with my Löwe in 5 games..



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View PostVeNoMz x Maniac, on 14 August 2019 - 11:07 AM, said:

 

i can say it makes for a more consistent damage output  but instead of ten percent i think 15 would be a better fit so players don't get their hopes up on too much consistency .. and arty nerf?  what needs to be nerfed? ceratinly not damage  because on average in my 261 i do 600 a shot if im lucky  what needs to be nerfed? the armor is thin as anything, the mobility is [edited]  the reload process is long as hell and the aim time  is just as bad along with the accuracy and on top of that the lowest hit points of all tanks.... what needs to be nerfed?

 

I agree with you! My arty seems to do less damage than regular tanks! I don't own any arties that do 1 shot kills. Most of the time they only do a fraction of the damage. And they NEVER do the damage that they are advertised unlike other tank classes. They need to fix that. I have a premium artillery I bought that boasts 700 average damage, but only gets 90-250 damage on average.

 

If there are some that do one shot kills, that's fine with me. Some Tank Destroyers get 1 shot kills (Star Destroyer), even some heavies. Why should arties be any different? Just price them accordingly. 


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View Postjonesofcolorado, on 27 September 2019 - 08:31 PM, said:

 

I agree with you! My arty seems to do less damage than regular tanks! I don't own any arties that do 1 shot kills. Most of the time they only do a fraction of the damage. And they NEVER do the damage that they are advertised unlike other tank classes. They need to fix that. I have a premium artillery I bought that boasts 700 average damage, but only gets 90-250 damage on average.

 

If there are some that do one shot kills, that's fine with me. Some Tank Destroyers get 1 shot kills (Star Destroyer), even some heavies. Why should arties be any different? Just price them accordingly. 

 

Sounds like failure to penetrate.  Try Viagra for Arties, fire premium ammo.  

 

Or you have not scratched off any winning tickets with your Lottery Bomber.  Your skill only counts a little; if you don't get lucky, your round won't hit the engine deck you're aiming for.

 

But please don't try premium ammo, nor learn and aim for soft spots.  Just quit playing artillery instead.






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