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RaiBOT01 #1 Posted 27 August 2019 - 02:06 PM

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Hello tankers!

 

Please share your feedback for Update 4.11 Tank Balance Changes

 

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FRANCE

 

JAPAN

 

MERCENARIES

 

GERMANY

 

SWEDEN

 

USA

 

U.S.S.R.

 

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Kmann30 #2 Posted 27 August 2019 - 02:18 PM

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View PostRaiBOT01, on 27 August 2019 - 08:06 AM, said:

Hello tankers!

 

Please share your feedback for Update 4.11 Tank Balance Changes

 

CHINA

 

FRANCE

 

JAPAN

 

MERCENARIES

 

GERMANY

 

SWEDEN

 

USA

 

U.S.S.R.

 

Thanks and ROLL OUT!!!

 

My question is why do you balance lower packages and tanks that nobody cares about? Why is the E50 and E50M still neutered? What about tier 10? Do you even play your own game? Ever consider that maybe, just maybe, the spreadsheet is not the answer alone? Why do the Italian and Polish tanks suck so bad? Why does the Machine  have the pre nerf tvp dpm, yet the tvp gets no buff? 

TsprinTs #3 Posted 27 August 2019 - 04:43 PM

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This is the laziest balance work I have ever seen.



Gmorck #4 Posted 27 August 2019 - 05:01 PM

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And the e50 unnerf?

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So i know writting in caps is a little bit annoying but maybe they read it, if it looks WOW.

and it just for Tier 10 because i don´t want to write over 3 pages.

 

 

BALANCE THE 850 ALPHA TD´S

NERF THE HESH PEN DOWN TO 235mm

BUFF THE CHINESE  TD, LIGHT 121 AND 113 

BUFF THE MAUS, E100, E50M and LEOPARD 1 BUT FOR JESUS SAKE UNNERF THE E50

NERF THE MASCHINE TOP SPEED OR DOUBLE IT`S INTRACLIP RELOAD 

 

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Some good changes (Brick, Chinese tanks) but why so many underperforming tanks were untouched? I'm talking about Italian line, Maus, Object 268 v 4, tier X Chinese td and many others. Are you planning to do another balance pass in next 4-6 months? Because you definitely should... 

Edited by Haukkis, 27 August 2019 - 08:40 PM.


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T3 HMC - The reload buff to the 2pdr gun means it can no longer fully aim in between shots, even with a GLD.  I needs a corresponding Aim Time reduction and/or Dispersion After Shot reduction to make the improved reload useable.  The other changes are fine.

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PvLvv fm/42 - The buffs have greatly helped.  Thank you.  However, just like with the T3 HMC, the fm/42 top gun (the 37mm) still fires faster than it aims, even using a GLD.  A further reduction in Aim Time and/or reduction in Dispersion After Shot would help it make full use of its rate of fire.

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View PostSchildMESSER, on 27 August 2019 - 11:26 AM, said:

So i know writting in caps is a little bit annoying but maybe they read it, if it looks WOW.

and it just for Tier 10 because i don´t want to write over 3 pages.

 

 

BALANCE THE 850 ALPHA TD´S

NERF THE HESH PEN DOWN TO 235mm

BUFF THE CHINESE  TD, LIGHT 121 AND 113 

BUFF THE MAUS, E100, E50M and LEOPARD 1 BUT FOR JESUS SAKE UNNERF THE E50

NERF THE MASCHINE TOP SPEED OR DOUBLE IT`S INTRACLIP RELOAD 

 

TY:)

Leave my hesh alone lol



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AMX 30 Prot. 

Gun handlind is much worse befor update.

Hulltravers is worse did u Change something? 

Loved this Tank and AMX 30B befor they get the nerf.  

It feels more and more when u do an update that u Change things and dont Let us know! I hope we get same like pc! WG pc Fire lot of People and hear more to playerbase. WoT console get more and more worse when a new update is coming!



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A-32 - View range is a big help so it can do some scout work when its gun is useless.  Unfortunately, it's still garbage in a tier 5 match.  The problem is the lack of a dependable premium round.  If you want to keep this thing limited to 75mm pen then please give it +0 matchmaking like the Pz.B2 (which has a premium round with 90mm by comparison).  Just had a tier 5 game where I hit 15 times for only 4 pens.  Another battle I circled a Pz.V/IV and only got 1 pen on his rear with standard ammo.  The other shots at his side/rear bounced because they weren't at 90* or because they hit the track first.  In short, it has no business fighting tier 5 tanks with that ammo.  The alternative is to buff the premium round to around 90-100mm of penetration to give it a fighting chance.  A little more shell velocity would be nice too.

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KanonenJPanzer 90mm:  Yay, I can bounce more shots now... Really guys, 16 shots fired, 6 premiums, 10 hits, 4 pens...  This thing needs a serious pen buff

Roundabout:  Neutered, can’t get close enough to fight and can’t hit a thing from far, shall collect dust until further notice. 

UDES03 and IKV90B:  I can pen, I can really really pen

Any thought to buffing the pen on the Slapjack and decreasing the load time on the Stubbs?

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My opinion of this balance update is that there wasn't nearly enough done. There are so many tanks that need buffs that are just being ignored by whoever is in charge of the balancing department. If the spreadsheets say the tank is balance then they just ignore the tank and it’s very frustrating to see as a long time player of this game. You need to listen to player feedback. Send out pulls asking about balance but really just do something different. I don’t speak for everyone but I’d like to see balance updates be more than just touching 20 tanks and calling it good. Especially because a good portion of the tanks effected don’t even need rebalanced

 

Anyways here’s what I think of some of the tanks that you did actually rebalance.

Chinese

France
Japan
Mercenaries
Germany
United States
Russia

 

And here’s my giant list of tanks that are neglected/forgotten that I’d like to see touched in a future update

 


Lights tanks need rebalanced(again)

​Update 4.2 and 4.6 were terrible


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I played this game since 2016 and this game is going down because its balance for tier x all the nerfs u did for tier x nobody wanted !! And we r losing many players because that and bring back the old detect system the new targeted system make players camping bring back the old ribbons if ur really listening for the community if u want the game grows up just u have to play ur own game more or listen for the top players 

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Type 95 Heavy - The forward speed limit of 27kph is unreachable except downhill.  I found that my useable forward speed was still 20-22kph.  Please either buff the final engine or reduce the terrain resistance so that it can actually use that speed.  The pen buff is very helpful and the armor buff is just right.  It'll bounce some things, but can't get cocky.  NOTE: Your patch notes say it got a pen nerf, but it's a typo.  The standard round on the top gun is now 90mm, not 60mm.

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View PostKaboost, on 28 August 2019 - 01:58 AM, said:

My opinion of this balance update is that there wasn't nearly enough done. There are so many tanks that need buffs that are just being ignored by whoever is in charge of the balancing department. If the spreadsheets say the tank is balance then they just ignore the tank and it’s very frustrating to see as a long time player of this game. You need to listen to player feedback. Send out pulls asking about balance but really just do something different. I don’t speak for everyone but I’d like to see balance updates be more than just touching 20 tanks and calling it good. Especially because a good portion of the tanks effected don’t even need rebalanced

 

Anyways here’s what I think of some of the tanks that you did actually rebalance.

Chinese

France
Japan
Mercenaries
Germany
United States
Russia

 

And here’s my giant list of tanks that are neglected/forgotten that I’d like to see touched in a future update

 

 

You've got lots of great ideas, I like them, you should be part of Wargaming's balance team :) Here's some more suggestion from me: Type 4&5Heavy: buff 140mm gun's premium round pen 282>308 and give it small dpm buff. Give 150mm gun AP round and 850 alpha (for Type 5 only, give Type 4 750 alpha) but low penetration of 215mm to balance it out. Change premium round pen 264>317mm but nerf alpha to 550 or 600 so it wouldn't be instant "pay to win" premium round. Buff accuracy 0.50>0.42 or 0.43 so you can actually hit your AP and HEAT rounds where you aim. Object 268 v 4 needs big mobility buff. TVP VTU needs better gun deppresion and gun handling buff. ISU-130 needs wider gun arc and huge penetration buff, 215>250mm or more. IS-7 and IS-4 need more ammo. Jackal need gun deppression buff 6>8 or 10. Banana Buster/Boulder needs better penetration for both shell types, maeby 10-15mm more.

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Roundabout - I was very worried that the .45 accuracy would kill it, but it isn't as bad as I feared.  Even with the nerfs it's still a very deadly assassin.  The camo is good enough to make it workable with the poor accuracy and slow aim-in.

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M8A1 - The reload buff for the 57mm makes a significant difference for that package.  It now reloads just a fraction of a second faster than it aims when using a GLD.  Maybe take .1 off the aim time or a little off the Dispersion after Shot to solidify the aim in.  A great little TD.

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View PostHaukkis, on 27 August 2019 - 08:40 PM, said:

You've got lots of great ideas, I like them, you should be part of Wargaming's balance team :) 

I know they’d never offer it but I would accept that role in a heartbeat. They wouldn’t even have to pay me tbh. 

 

Was gonna add the Japanese heavies and the TVP VTU but I haven’t played them yet so I didn’t know what to suggest for them.


Lights tanks need rebalanced(again)

​Update 4.2 and 4.6 were terrible






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