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Pontiac Pat #21 Posted 28 August 2019 - 05:35 AM

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A-20 - It's now a solid scout with the feel of the rest of the line.  The one fine point is that the 45mm VT-42 gun package now reloads just a hair faster than it aims with GLD.  It's very close.  A small reduction in either aim time or after shot dispersion will sync it back up.

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atwilliams07 #22 Posted 28 August 2019 - 06:08 AM

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In a word, underwhelming. Feels like you are avoiding facing into the real balance issues players are calling out.  

Pontiac Pat #23 Posted 28 August 2019 - 06:46 AM

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Champion M4 Sherman - The lower ground resistances are noticeable and welcome.  The lower dispersion is as well.  The tank, like all the short 75mm Shermans, is still very lackluster, but it is better than it was.

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XEboi #24 Posted 28 August 2019 - 07:23 PM

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121 gun depression thank you as one of 2 people playing it, its much better

But no maus un nerf or T34100 or kv5 pen buff

Wz120 needs some depression aswell 

 

60tp needs some love 

I could go on & on



TransparentBlue #25 Posted 29 August 2019 - 06:54 AM

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Please stop changing tanks...

If one is OP, give it matchmaking weight like you do the Panzer V/IV and about forty others.  In fact, just weight ALL the tanks and you'll never have to nerf or buff a tank again.

Please stop with the constant changing of tanks we bought or "worked" for.  This poisons the game because people stop trusting that they will get what they expect.

Some tanks will be weaker.  Some stronger.

Currently you're just pandering to the whiners and encouraging them to whine even more, and that is a big toxic problem by itself.



SPCCN #26 Posted 29 August 2019 - 10:30 AM

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I don't know why I look through the patch notes anymore. WT E100 AND Fv215183 need to be adjusted downward.

WfTE-100 needs clip size reduction of 2 or a single shell removed with a 3.2s inter clip reload, and a turret traverse reduction, a top speed reduction or a hull armour reduction, and a Camo rating reduction.

Fv215183 need a HESH pen and Alpha reduction, and the frontal side turret cheeks reduced to pre buffed thickness.

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ozrage #27 Posted 29 August 2019 - 03:40 PM

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Oh no don't tell me they nerfed the AMX 30 and AMX 30 B? This is what bugs me the most even more than MM and lack of team work Get the tank after months of grinding and it gets the nerf hammer. At least I got to try the Machine unnerfed unlike so many others that get nerfed just as I get them.  

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View PostSPCCN, on 29 August 2019 - 06:30 PM, said:

I don't know why I look through the patch notes anymore. WT E100 AND Fv215183 need to be adjusted downward.

WfTE-100 needs clip size reduction of 2 or a single shell removed with a 3.2s inter clip reload, and a turret traverse reduction, a top speed reduction or a hull armour reduction, and a Camo rating reduction.

Fv215183 need a HESH pen and Alpha reduction, and the frontal side turret cheeks reduced to pre buffed thickness.

 leave the waffle alone the gun has already been nerfed with lower velocity.



UBERSICKO #29 Posted 29 August 2019 - 07:30 PM

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Can were get back  the silver and xp we now wasted on upgrades that are no longer there (Lorr 40T)


ozrage #30 Posted 29 August 2019 - 08:01 PM

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And of course as I test drive the AMX 30 to see how bad it was nerfed I spawn with all ammo reset with no premium ammo.

Pontiac Pat #31 Posted 30 August 2019 - 07:39 AM

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ARL V39 - The traverse and movement dispersion buffs are welcome.  The improvements to the DCA 30 gun package are welcome, but that package has far too little penetration for a tier 6 TD (worst in tier/class).  The biggest issues with the tank are the limited gun arc, lack of depression, and poor reverse speed.  Once you shoot, you cannot get into cover quickly and to shoot you have to expose yourself with little hope of bouncing any return fire.

For comparison - 
With the 105mm package it compares against the SU-100 using the 122mm D-2-5S package.  The SU has more alpha, better standard pen, enough armor to bounce many same tier rounds, more mobility, and far better camo.  The ONLY advantage to the ARL is gun handling.  SU is far better overall.

With the 90mm DCA 30 package it compares against the JgPz IV using the 88mm L/56 package.  The JgPz has better DPM, better pen with both standard and premium rounds, better armor, better camo, better rotation.  The ONLY advantage to the ARL is slightly better alpha.

With the 90mm DCA 45 package it compares most closely to the Churchill GC with the 32pdr package.  They are pretty evenly matched, with the ARL having better mobility while the GC has better armor, but fairly comparable otherwise.  It's worth noting that they are probably tied as the worst TDs in tier.

 

My suggestions - Give it 8 degrees left/right gun arc (up from the current 7).  Give it 15kph reverse (up from the current 12).  Give it -7 degrees gun depression (up from the current -6).  Give the DCA 30 package a better premium round with around 190-200mm penetration.  Give the DCA 45 package a 7.5 second reload.  Give the 105 gun the same 330 damage with the standard shell as it gets with the premium shell, and increase the damage on the HE shell. (do this for all tanks with that same 105 gun)  Finally, buff the camo factor by about 10%.  This package of improvements would increase the overall ability to bring the weapon to bear, make the shot count, and survive taking a shot.  Yet they are modest enough to not overtake any of the tanks compared against above in terms of overall capability.


Edited by Pontiac Pat, 30 August 2019 - 07:39 AM.

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Pontiac Pat #32 Posted 30 August 2019 - 06:04 PM

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T37 - The reduced moving dispersion, increased turret rotation, and improved accuracy all are noticeable and welcome improvements.  It now has a better gun than the Rover, which puts that back into balance.  The Rover is still the better scout, but the T37 can now out-shoot it.

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next useless Update. The WG console Team is so incompetent. 

Thanks to WarGaming anti-EU attitude and disgusting deleting of non-English speaking communities ,,I,,

 

 

 


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. T22 Prototype

Increased Earn Rates for both Silver and XP

 

Is it tier 1? Do tt tanks have hidden rates for silver and xp? Also probably bug this tank cant equip ANY equipment.. I could be wrong but as I remember it could.


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View Postdzhey43, on 31 August 2019 - 02:44 AM, said:

. T22 Prototype

Increased Earn Rates for both Silver and XP

 

Is it tier 1? Do tt tanks have hidden rates for silver and xp? Also probably bug this tank cant equip ANY equipment.. I could be wrong but as I remember it could.

 

Yes, every tank has a hidden silver and xp factor.

This tank has no equipment intentionally.  It's so new players have a tank that performs well without the equipment, which they can't afford right away.  The idea is to play this tank until you have enough silver to buy/equip another.

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Pontiac Pat #36 Posted 31 August 2019 - 08:56 PM

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VK 28.01 - The moving dispersion improvement is welcome.  The buff to the 5cm L/60 is pretty pointless as it is pretty much worthless at tier 6 due to the low pen.  If it needs a further buff I suggest a rate of fire buff for the 7.5cm.

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T21 - The gun dispersion feels really nice.  The improved turret rotation is also nice.  Rate of fire is better, but still low for the tier.  Welcome buffs all around.

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Pontiac Pat #38 Posted 01 September 2019 - 01:28 AM

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IKV 90 B - The penetration buff definitely helped.  The most notable shortcoming when playing is the slow chassis traverse.  If it needs another buff, consider buffing that.

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Why package from Lorraine is removed?

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View PostUBERSICKO, on 29 August 2019 - 01:27 PM, said:

 leave the waffle alone the gun has already been nerfed with lower velocity.

 

Hilarious. Almost got the same laugh as when I read these lackluster patch notes.


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Play like a TANK not a pill box! 

Move away from bad engagements and towards favourable ones.

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