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smadmz335 #1 Posted 19 September 2019 - 04:53 PM

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I noticed that while playing a level 5 tank I am put into a game where I am the lowest level tank. I am playing against leval 7 tanks. My high velocity rounds just bounce off or don't penetrate. Make the game a even field. 

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View Postsmadmz335, on 19 September 2019 - 12:53 PM, said:

I noticed that while playing a level 5 tank I am put into a game where I am the lowest level tank. I am playing against leval 7 tanks. My high velocity rounds just bounce off or don't penetrate. Make the game a even field. 

 

Hello, sounds like you might enjoy the upcoming Matchmaking test. :honoring:

https://console.worldoftanks.com/en/news/matchmaking-announcement



SirDerp-a-lot #3 Posted 19 September 2019 - 05:16 PM

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That's +2 matchmaking, and it does not make the field uneven. Remember that you will have games where you play against tier III tanks as well, and you will able to leave your marks in them.

 

I like +2 matchmaking because it brings very satisfying matches. It's really a nice feeling to win against the odds, like the one time I was driving a Centurion I (tier VIII) and defended one flank along with a T110E5 (tier X) against half a dozen attackers. We won, and I was part of that.



RUNNINGDUDE1 #4 Posted 19 September 2019 - 06:29 PM

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2 years it seems you have been playing. You should know how to flank your opponents and look for weaker spots.

Sammael85 #5 Posted 19 September 2019 - 07:11 PM

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If only the penalizations in silver and exp. for shooting -2 tanks were bigger...

Everytime someone throws a thread about how unfair it's to be thrown against Tier X's while driving VIII's, i refrain myself a lot about telling how "fair" it is to be thrown against VIII's at nearly every round i drive a Tier VI.

This and more could be solved if WG just threw some "Junior ops" for anything Tier II to V. Bots wouldn't be that necesary with that little extra work and the influx of real new people would be bigger.


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TransparentBlue #6 Posted 19 September 2019 - 07:21 PM

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There game is fair, but it is unbalanced.  The best part and hardest part is to learn how, when and where you can contribute even as bottom tier.

That said, Wargaming needs to stop pushing high tier play so hard.  

All the ops encourage tier 10 play because they can be done faster.  

All the contracts are the same.

Stack in the Tier 10 silver bonuses...


Operations should include all tiers.
Some of those should be tier capped to require lower tier play.

Contract stages should be tier capped by stage to require lower tier play for completion.

Silver bonuses should go to the Tier 8 and 9 tanks who show up as the piñata in Tier 10 matches, not to those who come to the party in Tier 10s with sticks to whack the piñatas...

Potato QQ #7 Posted 19 September 2019 - 07:59 PM

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Uashe_PL #8 Posted 19 September 2019 - 07:59 PM

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View PostTransparentBlue, on 19 September 2019 - 07:21 PM, said:

There game is fair, but it is unbalanced. The best part and hardest part is to learn how, when and where you can contribute even as bottom tier.

That said, Wargaming needs to stop pushing high tier play so hard.

All the ops encourage tier 10 play because they can be done faster.

All the contracts are the same.

Stack in the Tier 10 silver bonuses...


Operations should include all tiers.
Some of those should be tier capped to require lower tier play.

Contract stages should be tier capped by stage to require lower tier play for completion.

Silver bonuses should go to the Tier 8 and 9 tanks who show up as the piñata in Tier 10 matches, not to those who come to the party in Tier 10s with sticks to whack the piñatas...

No matter what WG will do with matchmaking it will suck, the person responsible for stupid scripts in wot should loose the job . I am playing this game for 4 years and the way it looks right now makes it frustraiting and competly not fun , couse hard to have fun loosing 20 matches in a row being always 1of 3 best players in the team like I did today . All the warchests ops and other not needed easy to get rewards chenged the way that ppl play , and slowly killing the game . Most of the ppl who play it from the begening will agree that like 2 years ago it was harder to grind for tanks but way more fun to play. So WG stop waisting your time on war stories or commander modes and premium tank sales and make the game fun again b4 u will loose more players . Good advise , play your own game with ALL TIEARS to finaly see the issues..



phimo83 #9 Posted 19 September 2019 - 09:58 PM

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View PostRUNNINGDUDE1, on 19 September 2019 - 08:29 PM, said:

2 years it seems you have been playing. You should know how to flank your opponents and look for weaker spots.

 

with 584 wn8 yeah he will learn all right. 

phimo83 #10 Posted 19 September 2019 - 10:36 PM

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View Postsmadmz335, on 19 September 2019 - 06:53 PM, said:

I noticed that while playing a level 5 tank I am put into a game where I am the lowest level tank. I am playing against leval 7 tanks. My high velocity rounds just bounce off or don't penetrate. Make the game a even field. 

 



supermuis68 #11 Posted 20 September 2019 - 11:41 AM

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RED FORMAN 62 #12 Posted 23 September 2019 - 07:45 PM

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I agree I dont care how good you play you have little chance oh having a good game two tiers down discouriging to all

choppermeir #13 Posted 23 September 2019 - 09:44 PM

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At the cost of sounding like a Richard. Everybody has been through the game with +2-2 some learn to adapt others see it as unfair. I'm by no means a great player but I like to think I've learned to adapt to being bottom tier, it happens and when you take those matches to victory they're the ones you will remember 
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View Postphimo83, on 19 September 2019 - 02:36 PM, said:

 

 

lol!

 


jonesofcolorado #15 Posted 27 September 2019 - 07:13 PM

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I personally love the +1 -1 matchmaking going on right now and wish that was standard in the game. It's not fun when you're put up against a tank 2 tiers higher than you that you can't hurt at all. Or perhaps give an option to pick which option you want when you select a tank for those who want to play that way... 

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View Postjonesofcolorado, on 27 September 2019 - 07:13 PM, said:

I personally love the +1 -1 matchmaking going on right now and wish that was standard in the game. It's not fun when you're put up against a tank 2 tiers higher than you that you can't hurt at all. Or perhaps give an option to pick which option you want when you select a tank for those who want to play that way... 

 

Ya see, the reason they picked ±2 in the first place was that you can damage a tank two tiers higher, it's just that you just haven't learned how.  If they did ±3, there are some cases where low tiers simply cannot damage a top tier.  But even those are very few.

 

And learning how to deal damage while down two tiers means that when you're facing that tank on better footing, you'll be able to damage it more reliably.

 

And if you're two tiers up on it, you should have no excuse not to cut through like butter.

 

But most players don't learn these lessons.  Most players don't want to learn these lessons.  They'd prefer an easy mode.

 

I get it, but I don't want the game to get dumbed down, simplified and put in permanent easy mode. 

 

I am ok with the matchmaker giving occasional single and dual tier matches.  That's part of the random mush we all get.

 

I am ok with ±1 events, or even regularly scheduled ±1 time.  I don't need a shot at epic mode 100% of the time.

 

But don't take away the truly epic moments and epic achievement awards when all the effort and learning pays off and I carry a match when 2 tiers down.  That's all.



jonesofcolorado #17 Posted 27 September 2019 - 10:06 PM

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Right, that's why I said make it optional. If that's what you want (+2), great. If it's not what you want, provide closer match making (+1).

 

I personally am more like guy and dread when I get paired up with tanks that I just am no match for:

 

http://forum-console...00#entry4858500



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View Postjonesofcolorado, on 27 September 2019 - 10:06 PM, said:

Right, that's why I said make it optional. If that's what you want (+2), great. If it's not what you want, provide closer match making (+1).

 

I personally am more like guy and dread when I get paired up with tanks that I just am no match for:

 

http://forum-console...00#entry4858500

 

That's why you have multiple tanks, I guess.  Make a mistake in one, move on to the next. Dread is borderline silly.

 

When I see PooBarns, Deathstars, Waffles and E100s, I think to myself, "How am I gonna take one of those SOBs with me this time?" and "Who do I need to work with to make that happen?"

 

When I see a Russian 705a listed in red, I think "where's he gonna be?" so I can be somewhere else because I'm not good at finding their weak spots in a hurry yet.  Even so, it isn't dread.






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