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Teffisk #1 Posted 23 September 2019 - 03:28 PM

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If average win rate is what matters, please buff the Striker. My average win rate is way down:

Grille 15: 72%

Wf Pz IV: 64%

Skorpion G: 61%

Borsig: 71%

Striker: 40%

 

There was no reason to nerf this thing from PC. Please give us the PC gun stats. 



FBPrime #2 Posted 23 September 2019 - 03:51 PM

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It was nerfed at launch if I'm not mistaken.

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Teffisk #3 Posted 23 September 2019 - 04:09 PM

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View PostFBPrime, on 23 September 2019 - 03:51 PM, said:

It was nerfed at launch if I'm not mistaken.

 

Yes it was. It already has worse alpha and worse dpm. No need to have worse accuracy and worse aim time to go along with no turret.

Chr15py #4 Posted 23 September 2019 - 04:38 PM

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View PostTeffisk, on 23 September 2019 - 03:28 PM, said:

If average win rate is what matters, please buff the Striker. My average win rate is way down:

Grille 15: 72%

Wf Pz IV: 64%

Skorpion G: 61%

Borsig: 71%

Striker: 40%

 

There was no reason to nerf this thing from PC. Please give us the PC gun stats. 

 

it’s not your stats that matter it’s everyones combined stats and results with a tank that matters. 

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Teffisk #5 Posted 23 September 2019 - 04:41 PM

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View PostChr15py, on 23 September 2019 - 04:38 PM, said:

 

it’s not your stats that matter it’s everyones combined stats and results with a tank that matters. 

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Show me everyone else's. All I have to go on are my own. I doubt other people's are better.



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View PostTeffisk, on 23 September 2019 - 11:09 AM, said:

 

Yes it was. It already has worse alpha and worse dpm. No need to have worse accuracy and worse aim time to go along with no turret.

 

Gun handling soft stats were also nerfed.

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View PostTeffisk, on 23 September 2019 - 04:41 PM, said:

 

Show me everyone else's. All I have to go on are my own. I doubt other people's are better.

 

Just to be clear here, I wasn’t being confrontational bud :)

 

It doesn’t show it fully as it hasn’t been updated since June but have a look here:

 

http://www.wotinfo.net/en/nerf-barometer?_recent=on&_premium=on&country=all&vehicletype=AT-SPG&tier=8&server=xbox

 

Its compiled of people who visit the site so gives a rough idea. The striker isn’t shown however the normal Kanjp is bottom on average win rate. 

 

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View PostTeffisk, on 23 September 2019 - 12:41 PM, said:

 

Show me everyone else's. All I have to go on are my own. I doubt other people's are better.

 

If looking at only 58% Win Rate players like yourself - It has a win rate of 58.04%

If looking at just the average of all users - 50.928%

 

Sounds like you just had a bad streak of games or just doesn't suit your play style. I.E.  Maybe you're better with turreted TD's than hull locked TD's? :honoring:

 



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View PostMaxChaos24, on 23 September 2019 - 05:51 PM, said:

 

If looking at only 58% Win Rate players like yourself - It has a win rate of 58.04%

If looking at just the average of all users - 50.928%

 

Sounds like you just had a bad streak of games or just doesn't suit your play style. I.E.  Maybe you're better with turreted TD's than hull locked TD's? :honoring:

 

I accept this, but I'm surprised. Can you do me a favor and keep this tank on your watch list for the future?



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View PostMaxChaos24, on 23 September 2019 - 09:51 AM, said:

 

If looking at only 58% Win Rate players like yourself - It has a win rate of 58.04%

If looking at just the average of all users - 50.928%

 

Sounds like you just had a bad streak of games or just doesn't suit your play style. I.E.  Maybe you're better with turreted TD's than hull locked TD's? :honoring:

 

 

What about the 268-4?

WG Balance 101, If a tank has a high survival rate, nerf its gun.

 

 

 


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all fine with striker - just buy the audace :)

Derekthetree #12 Posted 24 September 2019 - 06:54 AM

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Lol, did you just get told to "git gud" by MaxChaos?? And with stat shaming too?!

 

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I've learned that turret less TDs are not in my playstyle. The ISU152 was the straw that broke the camels back



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View Postgiaka, on 23 September 2019 - 09:55 PM, said:

 

What about the 268-4?

 

This. If one td needs serious buff, it's Object 268 v 4. Striker is fine imo, it's gun handling is good enough.

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View Postgiaka, on 23 September 2019 - 04:55 PM, said:

 

What about the 268-4?

 

For 59% win rate players - 59%

Avg of all users - 53.831%



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View PostMaxChaos24, on 24 September 2019 - 11:13 AM, said:

 

For 59% win rate players - 59%

Avg of all users - 53.831%

 

How about the K-91? Could do with a Camo Buff to be in line with the Object 416, Similar size, Similar style. I realize PC made it's camo worse than the Object 430 U which shouldn't have happened as the K-91 is Small, 430U is Huge and Smaller the Tank, Better the Camo (Least that's how i learned it should be).

 

I don't mind about the gun too much, even though it's worse than most Soviet Mediums but Camo always bothered me. Should be a Sniper :)



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Max, question....  Are these stats available to the players?  If not, why not?  Couldn't making  them available cut down on the continual nerf this, buff this posts?  I would be for it.
I'm just saying.....

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View PostMaxChaos24, on 24 September 2019 - 05:13 AM, said:

 

For 59% win rate players - 59%

Avg of all users - 53.831%

 

and I'm guessing that means it won't be buffed even though it's probably one of the top 3 worst tier 10's on console in general right?

BiG ChuNgUs BR #18 Posted 24 September 2019 - 04:42 PM

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Hey don't forget about the TVP 50/51, it was nerfed after looking at the #data, which at the time the waffle e-100 was played 5x more often and had only 50 less avg damage than the TVP. Not to mention we have the un-nerfed TVP reload on the machine, which is faster and has a chieftain turret. :teethhappy:

 

Where's the nerf to that? Oh wait it's a TD? Nvm. 



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View PostxOHxWOWx, on 24 September 2019 - 04:52 PM, said:

Hey don't forget about the TVP 50/51, it was nerfed after looking at the #data, which at the time the waffle e-100 was played 5x more often and had only 50 less avg damage than the TVP. Not to mention we have the un-nerfed TVP reload on the machine, which is faster and has a chieftain turret. :teethhappy:

 

Where's the nerf to that? Oh wait it's a TD? Nvm. 

 

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