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ooo NO ONE ooo #1 Posted 28 September 2019 - 08:09 AM

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But once again WG surpass themselves!

So we have another +1-1 test as we know. I would assume (and hope) the test is about more than just "do you like it" polls.

How does the test affect numbers, queue times, population per tier, etc, etc.

And what do WG decide to run at the weekend (the highest population days)?

A X2 silver tier X event!!!!

How on earth can they get a true reflection of the test when players are encouraged to play tier X therefore tainting the results?

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Rubbelito #2 Posted 28 September 2019 - 08:19 AM

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My thoughts are quite the opposite.

Because of the +-1, not many players thought it'd be worth it to play tier X, so they added the silver event to get people to also play tier X.

But your guess is as good as mine.



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Add in Chisel Contract as well.....

 

 

Though Tier 8 was lovely this morning for me. (04:30-06:30 GMT on NA Server)


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ooo NO ONE ooo #4 Posted 28 September 2019 - 08:41 AM

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View PostRubbelito, on 28 September 2019 - 08:19 AM, said:

My thoughts are quite the opposite.

Because of the +-1, not many players thought it'd be worth it to play tier X, so they added the silver event to get people to also play tier X.

But your guess is as good as mine.

 

But if the +1-1 becomes permanent, this is what it will be like.

During the last event I stopped playing tier IX. I was getting tier X games between 75 and 80% of my games.


 

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Rubbelito #5 Posted 28 September 2019 - 08:44 AM

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View Postooo NO ONE ooo, on 28 September 2019 - 10:41 AM, said:

 

But if the +1-1 becomes permanent, this is what it will be like.

During the last event I stopped playing tier IX. I was getting tier X games between 75 and 80% of my games.

 

Well, not really since during the test people will take the opportunity to play a bit differently due to the +-1.
If it gets permanent, people will slowly revert to their normal gaming.

But this is only assuming not many wanted to play tier X during the test. If that assumption is wrong, then you theory about not syncing events properly seems more correct.

I know I haven't played much X this week.



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At least a tier X silver event doesn't break tier 8 under +1-1. That always gets old fast.

 

Every time they do a tier 10 silver event you can't really play tier 8 for a few days. Or if you do you have to pick specific tier 8s that don't really care what tier they face. 


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View Postooo NO ONE ooo, on 28 September 2019 - 08:41 AM, said:

 

But if the +1-1 becomes permanent, this is what it will be like.

During the last event I stopped playing tier IX. I was getting tier X games between 75 and 80% of my games.

 

With +-2 MM your tier IX tank had PMM of -2/+1 and you still ended in tier X battles quite often as a mid tier tank. In +-1 the main difference for tier IX is that they can't shoot tanks two tier down with guns that can take out tier X tanks, now that sounds really unfair towards tier IX tanks.  :sceptic: 

 

Problem with tier X is that it does not make enough silver, this is an issue that WG needs to fix  so that tier X is more fun to play in regular basis. 


Edited by SPUK4U, 28 September 2019 - 10:57 AM.

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zeus 171 #8 Posted 28 September 2019 - 11:45 AM

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Yeah I quit the m46 Patton grind for now, was bottom tier 5 games in a row and I’m stuck using the 90mm. 
 

There was 77 tier X’s in queue my last match last night.  
 

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CatSnipah #9 Posted 28 September 2019 - 11:52 AM

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26 battles last night. Only 3 in tier 9, it was 10s each time. Two of the three were in my top 4 of the night, including overall best wn8 game in my 46.

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WG really didn’t listen to any of the suggestions I made (as did others) regarding how to design a test that provides non-confounded data. 

 

But as op says, this really isn’t surprising. They just don’t want to do it correctly and gather empirical data.  Emotional confirmation bias is more better, apparently.

 

EDIT....I’ll give them credit for not running another mini earn op at the same time like the Independence Day loot box op that coincided with the first +/-1 trial. 



ABAOUIA #11 Posted 28 September 2019 - 02:52 PM

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So basicly it is a good time to start the 2nd mark on the T49 DERP ????

I know I'm not gonna try the 3rd on my Borsig wich is as 92.something cause only tier 8's issn't gonna cut it so i figured....

But with all the bad teams I'm kinda afraid the T49 DERP issn't the best idea eighter...?


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View PostRubbelito, on 28 September 2019 - 02:19 AM, said:

My thoughts are quite the opposite.

Because of the +-1, not many players thought it'd be worth it to play tier X, so they added the silver event to get people to also play tier X.

But your guess is as good as mine.

 

Have too agree here. +1/-1 MM isn't as enjoyable to tier 10 players now since they cannot farm the tier 8s. In fact, if WG does make +1/-1 the norm, then the X2 silver should be attached to tier 10s as permanent as well.

Edited by JatemKaa, 30 September 2019 - 12:24 AM.


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View Postooo NO ONE ooo, on 28 September 2019 - 02:41 AM, said:

 

But if the +1-1 becomes permanent, this is what it will be like.

During the last event I stopped playing tier IX. I was getting tier X games between 75 and 80% of my games.

 

Likewise agree here. Reason I have stopped at tier 9 as well. In fact, rarely even played my tier 8's as was bottom tier way too much.

 

And also, the X2 silver bonus should be made permanent if the +1/-1 MM is adopted. The top tier should be rewarded somehow to make up for them losing the enjoyment of farming tier 8s.


Edited by JatemKaa, 28 September 2019 - 03:25 PM.


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I'm on the Chisel contract, so only playing Tier 9 & 10. My only experience of the +1/-1 is no Tier 7 or Tier 8 damage piñata's to kill in game.

The x2 silver might be good for non premium players, I suppose.

When I finish my x2's I might try Tier 6 out.

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View PostSPUK4U, on 28 September 2019 - 10:53 AM, said:

 

With +-2 MM your tier IX tank had PMM of -2/+1 and you still ended in tier X battles quite often as a mid tier tank. In +-1 the main difference for tier IX is that they can't shoot tanks two tier down with guns that can take out tier X tanks, now that sounds really unfair towards tier IX tanks.  :sceptic: 

 

Problem with tier X is that it does not make enough silver, this is an issue that WG needs to fix  so that tier X is more fun to play in regular basis. 

 

You've done a very good job of reading into my post ... something I haven't said.

I am not complaining about the +1-1 test.

I am not complaining I don't get to shoot tier VII.

I am complaining that I am in tier X battles between 75 and 80% of the time.

As I would complain if it happened to me in any tier.

And even complaining is a strong word. It is certainly a worrisome anomaly thrown up by the test.


 

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YouMadBro413 #16 Posted 28 September 2019 - 06:31 PM

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Because I am working on the Chisel contract I have only played tier 9 and 10's for the last two weeks. Bad timing for a true test of -1/+1 MM. 

moeggsy #17 Posted 28 September 2019 - 09:36 PM

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Loving the silver at tier 10 being on stage 7 of the Chisel Contract. Plus I don't mind running 9s w 10s, some 9s are just as strong if not stronger imo. Haven't noticed +1 mm running high tiers anyways.

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if we had 1 week out of every month that was +1, -1 I'd be happy 

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View PostFreddyAvalanche, on 29 September 2019 - 04:55 PM, said:

if we had 1 week out of every month that was +1, -1 I'd be happy 

 

I want 2.75 weeks per month ..... teehee teehee





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