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Any plans to give the FV201 A45 PMM status?

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Does the FV201 (A45) need PMM or a buff?

  1. Yes - give it PMM to balance it (11 votes [52.38%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 52.38%

  2. Yes - give it a buff to help it against tier 9s (5 votes [23.81%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 23.81%

  3. Yes - it needs both PMM and a buff to survive (3 votes [14.29%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  4. No - the FV201 already feels perfectly balanced (2 votes [9.52%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

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inggrish #1 Posted 11 October 2019 - 08:55 AM

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The British tier 7 heavy really feels completely outclassed against tier 9s. While the gun has fairly good dpm, the pen, and dispersion aren't great for it's tier. Because the alpha is so low, you have to stay exposed for so long to get shots off, but the armour is weak so it doesn't even hold up against tier 7 tanks, nevermind 8 and 9.

Are there any plans to give this preferential matchmaking? It seems ridiculous that something like the Tiger 131 gets PMM for this doesn't. Giving this PMM I think would make it a very balanced tank.

 

Alternatively are there any plans to buff it at all? Could it be given a stronger turret and better gun handling/penetration to help with tier 9? Currently it will get stomped on very quickly, and that's coming from someone who loves the tank.

 

What does anyone else think?


Edited by inggrish, 11 October 2019 - 09:16 AM.


inggrish #2 Posted 11 October 2019 - 09:43 AM

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To add to this, I have noticed the FV201 has the 2nd lowest winrate (to the KV-3) of all tier 7 heavies on PS4, and 3rd lowest average damage of all tier 7 heavies.

matematicalone #3 Posted 11 October 2019 - 11:05 AM

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View Postinggrish, on 11 October 2019 - 10:43 AM, said:

To add to this, I have noticed the FV201 has the 2nd lowest winrate (to the KV-3) of all tier 7 heavies on PS4, and 3rd lowest average damage of all tier 7 heavies.

 

Well, those facts made choice of free tank easier for them.

inggrish #4 Posted 11 October 2019 - 12:18 PM

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View Postmatematicalone, on 11 October 2019 - 11:05 AM, said:

 

Well, those facts made choice of free tank easier for them.

Sorry, I don't follow. Free tank?



matematicalone #5 Posted 11 October 2019 - 12:48 PM

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View Postinggrish, on 11 October 2019 - 01:18 PM, said:

Sorry, I don't follow. Free tank?

 

My mistake, I thought you are talking about prize tank for Commander mode.

Adrian9704 #6 Posted 11 October 2019 - 12:57 PM

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View Postmatematicalone, on 11 October 2019 - 12:48 PM, said:

 

My mistake, I thought you are talking about prize tank for Commander mode.

You’re thinking of the FV 4202 (p)



inggrish #7 Posted 14 October 2019 - 10:16 AM

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View Postmatematicalone, on 11 October 2019 - 12:48 PM, said:

 

My mistake, I thought you are talking about prize tank for Commander mode.

 

ohh, gotcha! Yeah the FV naming can get pretty confusing.

Gallant Prime #8 Posted 17 October 2019 - 03:17 AM

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I'm convinced this tank only does as well as it does because players see it as no threat and figure they will just kill you last.  Well, unless you are arty, then you just see a big juicy target.  While you say fairly good dpm, it is not nearly enough given the alpha.  Alpha psychs people out.  Poor alpha tanks get yolo'd more.  

 


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View PostGallant Prime, on 17 October 2019 - 03:17 AM, said:

I'm convinced this tank only does as well as it does because players see it as no threat and figure they will just kill you last.  Well, unless you are arty, then you just see a big juicy target.  While you say fairly good dpm, it is not nearly enough given the alpha.  Alpha psychs people out.  Poor alpha tanks get yolo'd more.  

That's my experience too. If I have a great game in it, it's because I was underestimated by the reds and manage to whittle them down. 



Davelander #10 Posted 17 October 2019 - 08:35 AM

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They can just nerf its pen a bit and I would be happy to see it PMM

inggrish #11 Posted 22 October 2019 - 04:27 PM

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View PostDavelander, on 17 October 2019 - 08:35 AM, said:

They can just nerf its pen a bit and I would be happy to see it PMM

 

I would argue it doesn't even need a pen nerf for it to be balanced with PMM - it has the same pen as the Sherman Firefly 1 tier down, and the same as the Archer 2 tiers below. It only has slightly more pen that the Tiger 131 which already has PMM.

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View PostDavelander, on 17 October 2019 - 08:35 AM, said:

They can just nerf its pen a bit and I would be happy to see it PMM

 

doesnt need a nerf for PMM. it already has a weak hull & turret.

 

it needs a buff if its going to keep its current MM. the gun should get the Black Prince pen, the turret should be given more armor.



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View Postinggrish, on 23 October 2019 - 04:27 AM, said:

 

I would argue it doesn't even need a pen nerf for it to be balanced with PMM - it has the same pen as the Sherman Firefly 1 tier down, and the same as the Archer 2 tiers below. It only has slightly more pen that the Tiger 131 which already has PMM.

To be more specific I meant nerf it’s premium rounds. Has 238 pen which is almost equal to the black princes tier 8 gun. 
 

The Tiger 131 has 220 pen on its premium rounds but the 131 should never be used as a yard stick of what is balanced. It’s blatantly OP for a PMM tank  







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