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Tempest fox3 #21 Posted 23 October 2019 - 01:13 AM

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View PostWroclaw, on 23 October 2019 - 12:04 AM, said:

 

i know your not thick, so why post like you are.

 

shooting at a +2 tank is not "more balanced" than shooting the same type of tank that is only 1 tier higher.

 

there is a bunch of tanks that have +2 MM, but they have no business facing those tanks. the game is worse off for having +2.

 

Ad hominem attacks don't suit you. 

 

Fact of the matter is most tanks do just fine in +2. Tier 1-4 could all do with +1-1 but it's more due to the polulation at those tier (lack thereof) and ease of access for new players. Only Super heavies have any real argument for being useless in +2 and thats only because they are for the most part tanks that rely entirely on armour which becomes useless vs the penetration of +2 opposition and their lack of mobility. Other tank playstyles can cope with being bottom tier no problem. 

 

View PostWroclaw, on 22 October 2019 - 11:50 PM, said:

 

balancing the game is a separate issue to the problems the MM gives us

 

+1 has nothing to do with MM issues. theres no need to constantly bring it up when discussing +1 versus +2 

 

+2 is fundamentally unbalanced. the game is far more balanced as +1

 

+2 isn't an issue. Balancing is the issue. If matchmaking evenly balanced teams and certain tanks weren't overpowered among their own tier (let alone vs -2s) we wouldn't even be talking about this. 

 

Bottom tier is often more fun for me. Top tier I feel obligated to carry the team. Bottom tier I don't, I just go out do what I can and have fun, often getting great games as a result. Outplaying people 1v1 that are 2 tiers higher than you is icing on the cake. 


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redshadowrider #22 Posted 23 October 2019 - 01:52 AM

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I will play this game either way, but do prefer -1/+1.  I just WG could decide what they are going to do and do it.  I want to move on to other things.  
I'm just saying.....

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View PostHollowPoint_808, on 23 October 2019 - 01:23 AM, said:

 

Hahahahaha! C'mon say you like the +1/-1 , lol on first comment though.

 

I don't like +/-1 that much and i like even less the Loaded Dices which are shown way too much interest by WG C-B in my eyes.

 

In other words, seems like they are trying to gauge a fixpatch to every single problem according to their spreadsheets (Loaded Dices) and, at the same same, they throw some measures that have the thumbs up from that great part of the players that doesn't even know the difference between the older "spotted" and the actual "targeted" (+/-1 MM) 


 

 


bevenh #24 Posted 23 October 2019 - 03:33 AM

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OP you are almost right, but it is the game that sucks.

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I don’t mind plus 2, fine by me. More exp when they die. 

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Preaching to the choir. But the people here are basically Wargaming's cheerleaders, they LOVE the original state of the game while ignoring that as it is now, the game will die in mid 2020.

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Stop yo whining and get over it. This is why the player base sucks so badly.

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View Postsupersaiyaman12, on 22 October 2019 - 09:21 PM, said:

Preaching to the choir. But the people here are basically Wargaming's cheerleaders, they LOVE the original state of the game while ignoring that as it is now, the game will die in mid 2020.

 



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One of the most exciting games I've had in a while. Long Live +2


 

My dislike of +/- 1 pales in comparison to my hatred of Loaded Dice.


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View PostRUNNINGDUDE1, on 23 October 2019 - 05:34 AM, said:

 

 

So the drop off from hundreds of thousands of players from 2015-2018 (to the point of right before Mercenaries) to at best, 53,000 hasn't caught your attention? New players not sticking around since they hate being dicked on by tanks they can't do [edited]against or by artillery? Seriously, anyone with [edited]EYES knows the game is dying and you guys don't care, you just want to see it burn since you hate any positive change that would mess with how you play.

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View Postsupersaiyaman12, on 22 October 2019 - 09:40 PM, said:

 

So the drop off from hundreds of thousands of players from 2015-2018 (to the point of right before Mercenaries) to at best, 53,000 hasn't caught your attention? New players not sticking around since they hate being dicked on by tanks they can't do [edited]against or by artillery? Seriously, anyone with [edited]EYES knows the game is dying and you guys don't care, you just want to see it burn since you hate any positive change that would mess with how you play.

 

You are way too much crack cocaine there sonny boy.

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Ive enjoyed the +1 -1 matchmaking especially at tier 8 the tier i play the most. I honestly dont mind being low tier 5 thru 7. 

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View PostRUNNINGDUDE1, on 23 October 2019 - 05:43 AM, said:

 

You are way too much crack cocaine there sonny boy.

 

These are flat out statistics. The playerbase was two to three times bigger at LEAST. Now? During big events and over summer or winter vacations, World of Tanks can barely get 40-50,000 players. New players don't stick with the game they leave in droves I've tried to get new players to play...they leave. THey get tired of getting killed by tanks they can't do anything against. They're tired of being dicked on by arty. What incentive do new players even HAVE in staying?

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View Postsupersaiyaman12, on 22 October 2019 - 09:47 PM, said:

 

These are flat out statistics. The playerbase was two to three times bigger at LEAST. Now? During big events and over summer or winter vacations, World of Tanks can barely get 40-50,000 players. New players don't stick with the game they leave in droves I've tried to get new players to play...they leave. THey get tired of getting killed by tanks they can't do anything against. They're tired of being dicked on by arty. What incentive do new players even HAVE in staying?

 

They do not have the balls nor the brain cells. Been killed by arty like anybody else and still I am here. There are plenty of videos that show how to fight against higher tiers that everybody should look up and would see that would help them.

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View PostRUNNINGDUDE1, on 23 October 2019 - 05:53 AM, said:

 

They do not have the balls nor the brain cells. Been killed by arty like anybody else and still I am here. There are plenty of videos that show how to fight against higher tiers that everybody should look up and would see that would help them.

 

You do know without a casual base, a game like this cannot survive right? I mean for god's sake, is your head this up your [edited]you can't see the tremendous drop in player numbers?

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I was happy when +/- 1 ended, even if my platoon played five games in a row in tier 8 tanks in tier 10 battles. My Falcon enjoyed the challenge :)

 


 


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View Postmilesizdead, on 23 October 2019 - 06:51 AM, said:

I was happy when +/- 1 ended, even if my platoon played five games in a row in tier 8 tanks in tier 10 battles. My Falcon enjoyed the challenge :)

 

 

Not every player has as much experience as you do. People grinding usually quit the game now since they can't deal with tanks two tiers higher even WITH premium ammo on their stock tanks. Imagine a stock Tiger II, being loaded as the only Tier VIII in a Tier IX and X game....?

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View Postsupersaiyaman12, on 23 October 2019 - 07:02 AM, said:

 

Not every player has as much experience as you do. People grinding usually quit the game now since they can't deal with tanks two tiers higher even WITH premium ammo on their stock tanks. Imagine a stock Tiger II, being loaded as the only Tier VIII in a Tier IX and X game....?

 

You don't have to play stock tanks in standard mm anymore,  other games modes exist.     


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View PostJohn Arrowsmith, on 23 October 2019 - 07:15 AM, said:

 

You don't have to play stock tanks in standard mm anymore,  other games modes exist.     

 

Most players DON'T go for the [edited]war stories or other modes. They go to multiplayer. And they get tired of all the [edited]that comes with it, get the impression the game sucks and never play again. Again, World of Tanks Console is hemorrhaging players. We've lost over two thirds of our original playerbase. When we used to have a quarter million players....we're barely at 53,000. And you're saying the game doesn't need changes? You're saying that its perfect as is and to stop these 'experiments'? 

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View Postsupersaiyaman12, on 23 October 2019 - 09:02 AM, said:

 

Not every player has as much experience as you do. People grinding usually quit the game now since they can't deal with tanks two tiers higher even WITH premium ammo on their stock tanks. Imagine a stock Tiger II, being loaded as the only Tier VIII in a Tier IX and X game....?

 

My experience on the game was acquired with +/-2. Sure it was challenging at times, but that's how you get better. 

 





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