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TransparentBlue #1 Posted 23 October 2019 - 01:33 AM

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I thought it would be nice as an occasional event.  I thought I'd be OK with it even as regularly scheduled time every week.

 

Now I'm completely against it.

 

Every time there's a "test" or an "event", there's a brand new whinefest about how bad ±2 is and how it needs to be changed. 

 

Just stop.  People either like the game or they don't. They've had 5 years to decide, and ±1 doesn't get new players in the door. Longer wait times for shorthanded battles is not a good trade-off.

 

At this point it clearly and obviously causes more strife than it's worth.  I would rather not see it ever officially mentioned again. 

 

If you must make a change, give tighter tier grouping with the matchmaker when the server traffic allows. But just don't tell anyone.   



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So what you are saying is that you are tired of people starting threads like this?  :trollface:
I'm just saying.....

TransparentBlue #3 Posted 23 October 2019 - 01:44 AM

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View Postredshadowrider, on 23 October 2019 - 01:43 AM, said:

So what you are saying is that you are tired of people starting threads like this?  :trollface:

 

Shhhh!  Don't tell anyone!



tunnelvision78 #4 Posted 23 October 2019 - 01:59 AM

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If they can get cross platform working, it would make +1 / -1 more viable.  Would help wait times and match making tremendously!!

TransparentBlue #5 Posted 23 October 2019 - 02:11 AM

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View Posttunnelvision78, on 23 October 2019 - 01:59 AM, said:

If they can get cross platform working, it would make +1 / -1 more viable.  Would help wait times and match making tremendously!!

 

But it would also dumb down the game and make it boring, so there's that to think of.



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View PostTransparentBlue, on 23 October 2019 - 02:11 AM, said:

 

But it would also dumb down the game and make it boring, so there's that to think of.

Dumb it down more? Have you seen the yolo gameplay that goes unpunished? I am not sure it can get any worse than that.



bevenh #7 Posted 23 October 2019 - 03:31 AM

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Okay I don’t like the game.

dzhey43 #8 Posted 23 October 2019 - 05:04 AM

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View PostTransparentBlue, on 23 October 2019 - 05:11 AM, said:

 

But it would also dumb down the game and make it boring, so there's that to think of.

 

I agree that it is boring to play same battles where you can't be at bottom or top, but I also changed my mind about it. I was against +-1 and now I do not care much if it happens. Let it be the way more people like. If 90% like +-1 I'm ok with it, do it.
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CostlessSun07 #9 Posted 23 October 2019 - 05:11 AM

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It seemed as though there were fewer players tonight.  

 

I still have not made up my mind about +/-1 but I am okay with the return to regular MM.



Hamdoon13 #10 Posted 23 October 2019 - 05:13 AM

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I stopped plying lower tiers long ago. If they want to bring tier 8s to feed us damage, I don't mind :)

xiverisx #11 Posted 23 October 2019 - 07:10 AM

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I think you are just a crazy crazy person enjoying playing your stock tier 8's vs 10's, 7's vs 9's, 6' vs 8's... I totally agree you have right to enjoy this game playing it with +2/-2 matchmaking, but... most players i bet don't have fun at all :) And i believe it will come permanent 100% one day, the only problem i saw to this day, that some guys was disappointed with increased waiting time sometimes (personally don't care i will wait to get in more enjoyable battle experience).
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Potato QQ #12 Posted 23 October 2019 - 08:04 AM

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This game had 5 years of community feedback, at this point every complaining thread is spam. Just play the game for what it is and appreciate it. There never going to fix this game to be balanced. 

f1mitku #13 Posted 23 October 2019 - 08:28 AM

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I don’t understand why they test it at all and don’t make a survey to get the players opinions. What’s the point of such test?
Outside that - I’m OK with the +1/-1 MM and somewhat against but mostly indifferent for the lower RNG pen and damage tested change.
So just make a survey and implement what people prefer.
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matematicalone #14 Posted 23 October 2019 - 08:30 AM

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+1/-1 mm is already in game. If you need that just play tier 9 or any of the tanks with PMM (there is more than 10 of those). You can play +0/-0 if you wish so, just pick any of the existing tier 10's (and there is 59 from the TT to pick from + 5 premiums and 3 mercs).

And before anyone starts whining about only tier 10's and what about lower tier, think about buying B2 with ultra PMM...top tier seal clubber guaranteed 100% of time.

I say keep it as it is, we need more options in game, plus current playerbase can't support this kind of mm, except in case crossplay becomes a thing. If we can have crossplay than pop will go double over night and it will be sufficient to support this mm without wating times of 3+ mins.



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View PostPotato QQ, on 23 October 2019 - 12:04 AM, said:

This game had 5 years of community feedback, at this point every complaining thread is spam. Just play the game for what it is and appreciate it. There never going to fix this game to be balanced. 

 

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View Postxiverisx, on 23 October 2019 - 07:10 AM, said:

I think you are just a crazy crazy person enjoying playing your stock tier 8's vs 10's, 7's vs 9's, 6' vs 8's... I totally agree you have right to enjoy this game playing it with +2/-2 matchmaking, but... most players i bet don't have fun at all :) And i believe it will come permanent 100% one day, the only problem i saw to this day, that some guys was disappointed with increased waiting time sometimes (personally don't care i will wait to get in more enjoyable battle experience).

 

Nobody has to play stock tanks in standard mm any more.


World of tanks Auto lock edition,  because aiming shouldn't be a skill.

 

 

 


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View PostJohn Arrowsmith, on 23 October 2019 - 10:47 AM, said:

 

Nobody has to play stock tanks in standard mm any more.

 

What? Did packages grinding suddenly was removed? That doesn't change the fact fighting with like "Motherland" vs. Tier X mediums.
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View Postxiverisx, on 23 October 2019 - 09:00 AM, said:

 

What? Did packages grinding suddenly was removed? That doesn't change the fact fighting with like "Motherland" vs. Tier X mediums.

 

 

If you keep changing your argument it's pretty pointless trying to discuss  anything with you.


World of tanks Auto lock edition,  because aiming shouldn't be a skill.

 

 

 


TransparentBlue #19 Posted 23 October 2019 - 09:36 AM

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View Postxiverisx, on 23 October 2019 - 09:00 AM, said:

 

What? Did packages grinding suddenly was removed? That doesn't change the fact fighting with like "Motherland" vs. Tier X mediums.

 

The Motherland is awesome, even in Tier 10 matches.  Greasy little murder wagon, that one.

 

Is it easy in Tier 10 with a Motherland?  No.  But it's not supposed to be.  Anyone complaining about a Motherland having to face Tier 10 tanks might not be doing it right.  

 

 



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View PostTransparentBlue, on 23 October 2019 - 11:36 AM, said:

 

The Motherland is awesome, even in Tier 10 matches.  Greasy little murder wagon, that one.

 

Is it easy in Tier 10 with a Motherland?  No.  But it's not supposed to be.  Anyone complaining about a Motherland having to face Tier 10 tanks might not be doing it right.  

 

 

 

If anyone needs even more challenge playing this game, i will advice to play more clan vs clan competitive, that way you won't be able to farm bad top tier players and won't be completely destroyed by them if they are good :)


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