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Poll: No-Artillery Que (103 members have cast votes)

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If given the option to opt of of games with artillery, would you like to have, and use this feature?

  1. Yes (64 votes [62.14%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 62.14%

  2. No (39 votes [37.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 37.86%

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MiikwanXxXiis #61 Posted 31 October 2019 - 10:44 PM

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View PostFBPrime, on 31 October 2019 - 10:43 PM, said:

 

The Chinese buffs finally came through after years of asking.

Theyve actually said they arent reworking arty tho.



GEToff MyLawn52 #62 Posted 31 October 2019 - 11:17 PM

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With arty gone I would be able to put my controller down mid battle and refill my drink. I don't do it often, rarely really, but with no arty it is far more feasible.  :)

My perception is that battles are more campy when artillery is not in the battle.  Too many dug in tanks or base defending campers.

 

I also like their help and assist damage as I mainly ride around in heavies and mediums and I'm always out front so not having arty would be a negative in my opinion.  I rarely get smacked by arty or sent back to the garage so they are the least of my in game problems.  

 

 



SampledSpade5 #63 Posted 31 October 2019 - 11:55 PM

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View PostJatemKaa, on 31 October 2019 - 10:00 PM, said:

 

This. Beating a dead horse - no, beating a skeleton horse now that people have been beating this horse for YEARS. Complete waste of time.

 

You can't fix the number of stupid people on this forum. They want the game tailored to their style of play.  

 

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FBPrime #64 Posted 01 November 2019 - 12:40 AM

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View PostSampledSpade5, on 31 October 2019 - 06:55 PM, said:

 

You can't fix the number of stupid people on this forum. They want the game tailored to their style of play.  

 

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KanderisBAE #65 Posted 01 November 2019 - 04:55 AM

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View PostlI_Redline_Il, on 31 October 2019 - 02:47 AM, said:

 

Amen.  It's how I see it too.  

 

Arty-free games seem to me more free-flowing and with a greater variety of tactics and initiative shown by players.  Also more dramatic and climactic.  

 

 

yes arty free games are a joy to play , you can just get on with doing your bit without the  sky bombers ruining the match 

GinTonicus #66 Posted 01 November 2019 - 12:20 PM

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View PostSampledSpade5, on 31 October 2019 - 06:55 PM, said:

 

You can't fix the number of stupid people on this forum. They want the game tailored to their style of play.  

 

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Normally I wouldn't call someone out but....considering you have thousands of games in tier 3 artillery, including 1300 games in the sexton 1, if that’s your ‘style of play’ then, yes, I would like the game to discourage the mass slaughter of new players by folks with 60000 games.

 

i can imagine the hundreds of seals you’ve mercilessly clubbed getting turned off from continuing to play the game after being hit with your RNG missile from across the map while you watch YouTube, eat ramen with one hand and click with the other.



DUBIOUSrepair #67 Posted 01 November 2019 - 01:08 PM

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Arty is in the game to prevent camping. WG's words, not mine. I can only answer the OP's question based on my own personal experience.

Would I use the feature the OP described if given the option? No.


Can it promote camping? Yes (if one does not understand that playing a battle with arty in play requires considerations that would not be an issue where arty is absent or killed).


Does it promote camping? It can. (It doesnt for me, but knowing it is in play affects my deployment decisions until I figure where it/they are deployed).


Do I think it's bad for the game? No.


Have I been 1-shot by arty? Absolutely, but not as often as you would think.


Do I play arty? Yes. Quick math shows I play arty about 5% of my total 28000 battles, with the FV304 being the most played at 243 battles.


Am I a bad player for playing safe when arty is in play or owning a US Sexton 1? I dont think so, but that's for you to decide.
 



miju irl #68 Posted 01 November 2019 - 01:12 PM

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View PostMiikwanXxXiis, on 31 October 2019 - 07:04 PM, said:

All they need to do is nerf their pen to like whatever the waffles gun shield is, increase rate of fire and nerf alpha.

They we be better at digging out enemies and wouldnt have ridiculous alpha strikes and would do appreciable damage over time.

 

Leave pen as it is and reduced HE splash radius.

 

Double the reload time of arty should be enough of a nerf without changing the mechanics too much for arty lovers



MiikwanXxXiis #69 Posted 01 November 2019 - 01:36 PM

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View Postmiju irl, on 01 November 2019 - 01:12 PM, said:

Leave pen as it is and reduced HE splash radius.

 

Double the reload time of arty should be enough of a nerf without changing the mechanics too much for arty lovers

How is their dpm or splash radius the problem? How is it a good game mechanic when they can pen and one shot lightly armoured tanks?



miju irl #70 Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:14 PM

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View PostMiikwanXxXiis, on 01 November 2019 - 01:36 PM, said:

How is their dpm or splash radius the problem? How is it a good game mechanic when they can pen and one shot lightly armoured tanks?

 

When you get that FV3805 and M53/M55 up to the next tier you will know why splash range is a problem.  Hitting 3 tanks for 600+ dmg each at same time from the back of the map highlights exactly what is wrong with arty as a class. You can also splash damage tanks in cover around corners again showing how "arty safe" is a myth.

 

Last thing this game needs is arty firing faster obvious example of broken fast firing arty is Sexton 1.

 

Light armor tanks isn't a problem for arty either given the arc they usually pen upper plate or roof anyway on heavies where there is no armor. You should know this ;)

 

 



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x_BAlN_x #72 Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:52 PM

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View Postmiju irl, on 01 November 2019 - 07:12 AM, said:

 

Leave pen as it is and reduced HE splash radius.

 

Double the reload time of arty should be enough of a nerf without changing the mechanics too much for arty lovers

 

You forgot the universal shell arc reduction. 

MiikwanXxXiis #73 Posted 01 November 2019 - 03:15 PM

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View Postmiju irl, on 01 November 2019 - 02:14 PM, said:

 

When you get that FV3805 and M53/M55 up to the next tier you will know why splash range is a problem.  Hitting 3 tanks for 600+ dmg each at same time from the back of the map highlights exactly what is wrong with arty as a class. You can also splash damage tanks in cover around corners again showing how "arty safe" is a myth.

 

Last thing this game needs is arty firing faster obvious example of broken fast firing arty is Sexton 1.

 

Light armor tanks isn't a problem for arty either given the arc they usually pen upper plate or roof anyway on heavies where there is no armor. You should know this ;)

 

 

I know these things. What im suggesting would make them do less splash damage and not pen heavies either. All your points would be improved by my suggestion.

 

Im not saying make them all sexton 1s just a bit of an increase to make up for lower alpha. You can suggest where ever that medium could be.

 

Im beginning to think you didn't even read what i wrote.

 

Also you dont have to be condescending to get a point across btw.



AskingCupid78 #74 Posted 01 November 2019 - 11:30 PM

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During the test they could just put all artillery together in one  que and match all tier from 2 to 10 just lumped together, and if there are not enough players, just fill up the rest with Bots in Us Sexton1 and Le fe fe fe fe, or whatewer it is called, make the only map avaliable to them Prokorovka, i think they would just love it., they could all bunch up in one corner and spam, "Need a target", "Sos" and "Cower me":)

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AskingCupid78 #75 Posted 01 November 2019 - 11:39 PM

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View PostMiikwanXxXiis, on 31 October 2019 - 10:44 PM, said:

Theyve actually said they arent reworking arty tho.

 

They also said that they would never sell the Black tanks again.

GEToff MyLawn52 #76 Posted 02 November 2019 - 02:52 AM

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View PostAskingCupid78, on 01 November 2019 - 05:39 PM, said:

 

They also said that they would never sell the Black tanks again.

 

Black tanks were already in game and it did not cost much, if anything, to put them on sale again and it made them more money.  

 

They make their decisions based on how it affects their cash flow.  All companies do.  Follow the money.

 

 



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View PostGEToff MyLawn52, on 01 November 2019 - 07:52 PM, said:

 

Black tanks were already in game and it did not cost much, if anything, to put them on sale again and it made them more money.  

 

They make their decisions based on how it affects their cash flow.  All companies do.  Follow the money.

 

 

 

Being good to your customers and making money aren't mutually exclusive. It's rather easy to make money, it's when they try to make all the money at once when it becomes a problem.

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