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De4thSt4lker206 #41 Posted 09 November 2019 - 01:18 AM

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View PostHaukkis, on 08 November 2019 - 06:39 PM, said:

 

Iron Rain is good td but it's not that overpowered than some people think... In some situations it can be devastating but it has lot of weaknesses that balance it. Regular tech tree Borsing is better in many situations.

 

so? it is a broken POS at tier 8, just like the waffle at tier 10. it has 1470 clip damage, not as obscene as a waffle, but still ridiculous. Any sort of high-alpha autololader, especially on a stealthy platform (that can wait until a target cannot hope to get cover before unloading) is absolutely disgustingly broken. 

 

the only thing to be grateful for is it is only 3 shots, so it can only kill one and a half -2 tanks, rather than a full 2 like the waffle. but unlike the waffle nobody can see the damn thing, even when it opens up, because it has ridiculous camo at a tier where many vehicles it sees only have 380 view range.

 

any tank that can clip a tank in its own tier (or 80+% of its health) is broken, the waffle is just more broken than normal for an autoloader at a full 12 on a scale of 1-10.  the Iron rain is about a 9.


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View PostJoco3000, on 08 November 2019 - 01:24 PM, said:

Oh, what tier is this?

 

Tier 11, a first, but it plays tiers 3-5 in multiplayer. :great:

 

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View PostTempest fox3, on 08 November 2019 - 12:42 PM, said:

So, they've just taken another tech tree German TD and given it an autoloader?

 

wonder how long it took them to come up with the idea.

 

So glad i gave up on this after the 1st week.

 

What ever happened to not wanting to implement things that would "negatively impact the MM" ??



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Yuck- not happy the only way to earn a tank is commander mode.  What if some people don't like the mode?  Will this tank get the PC like nerf slap, or does it arrive like the Chisel- full of unnecessary muscle?  Are there two separate groups that play test new tanks- one for PC ports and one for other tanks??

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View PostHaukkis, on 09 November 2019 - 12:39 AM, said:

 

Iron Rain is good td but it's not that overpowered than some people think... In some situations it can be devastating but it has lot of weaknesses that balance it. Regular tech tree Borsing is better in many situations.

 

You're wrong. It's opaf. 


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View PostXero M XTC, on 08 November 2019 - 08:17 PM, said:

 

wonder how long it took them to come up with the idea.

 

So glad i gave up on this after the 1st week.

 

What ever happened to not wanting to implement things that would "negatively impact the MM" ??

 

As long as it positively impacts their wallets I doubt they had any intention of upholding that statement.

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Derekthetree #47 Posted 09 November 2019 - 11:16 AM

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View PostVery Classy, on 08 November 2019 - 11:51 PM, said:

 

In the first stage, playing a random Dog Tags vehicle earned considerably more XP than an owned vehicle. Didn't seem to be the case in the second stage.

 

Of course, you'd end up in a Vindicator with no skills/perks.... 

 

oh, so they changed it? Might have to give it another go. Although it was quite an adjustment to go back to playing regular multiplayer afterwards

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View PostM4ntiX, on 08 November 2019 - 01:31 PM, said:

 

Mind you it already did. We got the FV4202 p during last event.

 

Actually that was only if you completed Colonel II. Some of us tried desperately for clarification about the FV 4202(p) being only available last opening and met with crickets. WG has taken the tank out of the prize list for Colonel II now.

 

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View PostLiteralComic635, on 10 November 2019 - 07:50 AM, said:

 

Actually that was only if you completed Colonel II. Some of us tried desperately for clarification about the FV 4202(p) being only available last opening and met with crickets. WG has taken the tank out of the prize list for Colonel II now.

 

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It was for Lieutenant Colonel NOT Colonel, the second of the three images making up the progression ops table is missing, check out the difference between them in the phase 2 and 3 threads:

 

http://forum-console.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/237903-world-of-tanks-mercenaries-commander-mode-phase-2-feedback-post/

 

http://forum-console.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/238639-commander-mode-phase-3-event-info-and-feedback-post/#topmost

 

I think that this is an error in the phase 3 thread OP, Rai forgot to post image 2.



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So I expect the main multiplayer part will be dead as everyone will be playing Commander mode to earn a free TD, ugh.   Don’t need more modes that give out free tanks that draws players away from the main mode.



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View PostFuzzySquirrel21, on 10 November 2019 - 09:57 AM, said:

So I expect the main multiplayer part will be dead as everyone will be playing Commander mode to earn a free TD, ugh. Don’t need more modes that give out free tanks that draws players away from the main mode.
 

 

Far from it, trust me. Commander mode will be mostly played by people who usually don't play multiplayer, you won't see a difference. At least I haven't during either of the events.

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View PostJaRIS42, on 10 November 2019 - 08:09 AM, said:

 

It was for Lieutenant Colonel NOT Colonel, the second of the three images making up the progression ops table is missing, check out the difference between them in the phase 2 and 3 threads:

 

http://forum-console.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/237903-world-of-tanks-mercenaries-commander-mode-phase-2-feedback-post/

 

http://forum-console.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/238639-commander-mode-phase-3-event-info-and-feedback-post/#topmost

 

I think that this is an error in the phase 3 thread OP, Rai forgot to post image 2.

 

Lieutenant Colonel II, I dropped the 'Lieutenant' but I hope you are right. Since the whole idea is that you get as far as you can each of the 5 openings perhaps the FV is still going to be a prize for completing Lieutenant Colonel II but it is surely not listed in the 3rd opener prize list. 

 

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View PostM4ntiX, on 10 November 2019 - 10:07 AM, said:

 

Far from it, trust me. Commander mode will be mostly played by people who usually don't play multiplayer, you won't see a difference. At least I haven't during either of the events.

This . I have no desire to play commander mode, and will just buy the TD when it is released in the store. (Which it will be) 



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Wait till it’s a personal offer. I haven’t played that mode since the very first time it debuted

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View PostFuzzySquirrel21, on 10 November 2019 - 01:57 AM, said:

So I expect the main multiplayer part will be dead as everyone will be playing Commander mode to earn a free TD, ugh. Don’t need more modes that give out free tanks that draws players away from the main mode.
 

 

lol!

i wouldn’t play that mode a lot even if they gave away a tier X. 


 


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View PostLiteralComic635, on 10 November 2019 - 10:15 AM, said:

Lieutenant Colonel II, I dropped the 'Lieutenant' 

 

No it didn't, Lieutenant Colonel comes before Colonel and was in white on the table, Colonel is in pink.

 

Check out the OP for the phase 2 event that I linked above, the middle image containing Captain, Major and Lt. Colonel is missing (Edit: in the phase 3 thread).

 


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View PostDe4thSt4lker206, on 09 November 2019 - 02:18 AM, said:

 

so? it is a broken POS at tier 8, just like the waffle at tier 10. it has 1470 clip damage, not as obscene as a waffle, but still ridiculous. Any sort of high-alpha autololader, especially on a stealthy platform (that can wait until a target cannot hope to get cover before unloading) is absolutely disgustingly broken. 

 

the only thing to be grateful for is it is only 3 shots, so it can only kill one and a half -2 tanks, rather than a full 2 like the waffle. but unlike the waffle nobody can see the damn thing, even when it opens up, because it has ridiculous camo at a tier where many vehicles it sees only have 380 view range.

 

any tank that can clip a tank in its own tier (or 80+% of its health) is broken, the waffle is just more broken than normal for an autoloader at a full 12 on a scale of 1-10.  the Iron rain is about a 9.

So do you have Iron Rain, have you played it? Is sounds like you haven't... because if you'd had, you would know it not as great as you think it is. As soon as you fire you get spotted and you usually don't even hit all your 3 shots because 0.37 accuracy and RNG. Sure, it can be annoying to play againts Iron Rain sometimes but it's not broken or overpowered, not in my opinion. Yazi and Scorpion G are better imo.



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View PostTempest fox3, on 09 November 2019 - 05:29 AM, said:

 

You're wrong. It's opaf. 

 

Not really. CloneGuy made a great video where he demostraded when Iron Rain is great and when regular Borsig is much better... you should watch it.

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View PostHaukkis, on 10 November 2019 - 08:00 PM, said:

So do you have Iron Rain, have you played it? Is sounds like you haven't... because if you'd had, you would know it not as great as you think it is. As soon as you fire you get spotted and you usually don't even hit all your 3 shots because 0.37 accuracy and RNG. Sure, it can be annoying to play againts Iron Rain sometimes but it's not broken or overpowered, not in my opinion. Yazi and Scorpion G are better imo.

 

autoloadders. that can clip tanks in their own tier. are. broken.

 

even if the thing only hits 2 shots, it just did around 1000 damage and it can do it in about 5 seconds., in a tier where the average heavy has about 1600 hit points. a player would have to be an idiot to not set up an ambush position they can retreat into cover from once they are spotted. 

 

i don't give a crap about your " oh but it gets spotted when firing" there isn't a single damn tank in the game that wouldn't get detected before the iron rain does when firing, and being an autoloader, if it is undetected and you make a move into it's line of sight, it will kill you, so the fact that it got spotted is irrelevant.

 

it isn't OP, the waffle isn't OP. it is broken . the massive clip reloade "balances" it out, in the smae way the Waffle E-100's "Balances" that.  it is either OPAF or helpless.


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