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Vampire_Izumi #1 Posted 22 November 2019 - 08:31 AM

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why is the gun handling soo poor? even with vertical stabs, brother in arms and both Snap Shot and Smooth Ride, it blooms massively.

i can work with the no armor, since it has great mobility. but why give it awful gun handling too?

 

i guess i am replacing the Optics with a Enhanced Gun Laying Drive :D .

2.20s aim time is good but it cannot make up for that awful gun handling.

 

the gun handling is actually worse than the 50TP proto and the Object 252U. 

 

sarry, i just do not get why a tank with no armor needs no gun handling aswell :D (Fights tier 10s too)

like, i think this tank would be great if it just had gun handling on par with like the Beach Party or the Progetto or the 59 Patton or the STA-2.

 

CDC Gun Handling Stats: 

Accuracy on Moving Tank: 3.88m 

Accuracy on Rotating Turret: 2.07m

 

anyway, did not mean for a long post, just think this tank is unique and would be great with just better gun handling.

maybe my opinion will change after a few more matches, but that gun handling i can already tell is a major issue.

 

Gameplay of me being bad:

my French crew:

 

anyway, sarry for the rant. just do not get why this tank gets bad gun handling and no armor.


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dave mg 04 #2 Posted 22 November 2019 - 08:38 AM

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sold mine in the end,it just can't compete, 

which is a shame i really liked it when i first got it, was even tempted to trade in for the black edition but decided against it..



DwarfOnDrugs #3 Posted 22 November 2019 - 08:39 AM

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WG looked at this tank and decided it was too strong.

So they over buffed the FCM but a truck load making it a higher dpm better armoured and better gun handling CDC that only fights tier 9 max.

i must say, 10/10 by balancing department.


 


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View Postdave mg 04, on 22 November 2019 - 05:38 PM, said:

sold mine in the end,it just can't compete, 

which is a shame i really liked it when i first got it, was even tempted to trade in for the black edition but decided against it..

 

100% understandable

but, i am going to try to make mine work, it is such a unique tank that could be very fun and i hope the gun handling will not ruin the tank for me.

View PostDwarfOnDrugs, on 22 November 2019 - 05:39 PM, said:

WG looked at this tank and decided it was too strong.

So they over buffed the FCM but a truck load making it a higher dpm better armoured and better gun handling CDC that only fights tier 9 max.

i must say, 10/10 by balancing department.

when i first looked at those 2 tanks. i thought the CDC was the PMM tank and the FCM 50 T was the tank that met tier 10 :D


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The CDC is tragic. I agree the gun handling is junky. 

 

If I want to play a tier VIII French medium, I usually default to the Revalorise or the FCM 50t. 


 


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It was gifted, there's nothing else to say.

 

 


Haukkis #7 Posted 22 November 2019 - 02:48 PM

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I hardly play CDC anymore but I remember than gun handling was decent, no complaints. Type 59's gun handling... that's garbage.

Pontiac Pat #8 Posted 22 November 2019 - 04:28 PM

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There are other tier 8 mediums with similarly poor gun handling.  What makes it stand out is the big soft turret that leaves you extremely vulnerable while taking aim.  It's not such a big deal in a Centurion with a solid turret.  Speed of engagement is critical for survival in that thing and it doesn't really have it.

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View PostATHFjman18, on 22 November 2019 - 04:57 AM, said:

The CDC is tragic. I agree the gun handling is junky. 

 

If I want to play a tier VIII French medium, I usually default to the Revalorise or the FCM 50t. 

I do the same If I want to play a french premium it's usually the Vanguard or FCM 50T Liberte.



 


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Seen this post and this is my experience with the CDC,

 The CDC is a very crew dependent tank for one, I currently have 17 skills and perks. Also I am running rammer, vert stab and vents as my equipment. Small repair kit, small med kit and food are my consumables. A little aim time and pen buff would be nice, I can hit my targets but I can't always pen them. A simple fix would be that if it had preferential matchmaking. Either way you have to play it as a sniper during the 1st half of a game, stay alive and then toward the end you can be more aggressive. I liked the CDC so much that I traded it awhile back for the black edition just for the xp bonus it has. You don't see the CDC in many battles and it is a challenge to play but when you have a good game especially against higher tiers it can be rewarding.



steelheadclan #11 Posted 25 November 2019 - 10:41 PM

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It’s French. 

 


N6X507 #12 Posted 15 December 2019 - 09:25 PM

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I would challenge that the AMX CdC has poor gun handling; anything but that....

 



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Better off playing the FCM 50 T. 

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View PostN6X507, on 15 December 2019 - 03:25 PM, said:

I would challenge that the AMX CdC has poor gun handling; anything but that....

 

 

you were top tier with only a few T8's.. Its when this tank plays T9 and T10's that would be the real test. Any tank top tier will normally shine.  The tank is great for quick spots, but it kinda ends there for me. I bought the black one...  :(

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View Posttokyobatman, on 22 December 2019 - 04:38 PM, said:

 

you were top tier with only a few T8's.. Its when this tank plays T9 and T10's that would be the real test. Any tank top tier will normally shine.  The tank is great for quick spots, but it kinda ends there for me. I bought the black one...  :(

 

Like in most successful battles, the tank showcased is top Tier; and no matter what, you can be top Tier and still perform poorly.

 

The problem with tanks like CdC, is that you need to play them often, and regularly to be able to manage them properly. A lot of my tanks have no armor, so to me, taking the CdC out is not a game changer.

However, if you are used to forgiving tanks, chances are you are not going to like the CdC much.

 

Take my advice. Play it like it was the only tank of your park, and you will start to understand the difference.

 

And by the way, it does not matter what Tier you are in the CdC, because absolutely everything will pen you...


Edited by N6X507, 23 December 2019 - 12:44 PM.


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I have to say the CDC was/ is a regret purchase for me.  Also, I don’t pick up premium tanks to play my well developed crews in.  For me, these tanks are to train new crews.  With that said, the gun handling is really awful ( even with equipment) for the lack of armor.  

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View Postx4BIDN1x, on 24 December 2019 - 04:22 PM, said:

I have to say the CDC was/ is a regret purchase for me. Also, I don’t pick up premium tanks to play my well developed crews in. For me, these tanks are to train new crews. With that said, the gun handling is really awful ( even with equipment) for the lack of armor.

 

I would agree the CdC is not particularly easy or fun to battle with. I play the CdC when I am fully pumped up with adrenaline, because it really requires that you stay focused, to the extreme.

tokyobatman #18 Posted 24 December 2019 - 06:23 PM

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View PostN6X507, on 23 December 2019 - 06:43 AM, said:

 

Like in most successful battles, the tank showcased is top Tier; and no matter what, you can be top Tier and still perform poorly.

 

The problem with tanks like CdC, is that you need to play them often, and regularly to be able to manage them properly. A lot of my tanks have no armor, so to me, taking the CdC out is not a game changer.

However, if you are used to forgiving tanks, chances are you are not going to like the CdC much.

 

Take my advice. Play it like it was the only tank of your park, and you will start to understand the difference.

 

And by the way, it does not matter what Tier you are in the CdC, because absolutely everything will pen you...

 

 

It does matter what Tier you play in it.  If you are top tier, yes things will pen you, but damage will be less.  A T6 hitting you vs a T10, is a huge difference.. So, by the way it does make a big matter in the Tier you play in..


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View Posttokyobatman, on 24 December 2019 - 06:23 PM, said:

It does matter what Tier you play in it.  If you are top tier, yes things will pen you, but damage will be less.  A T6 hitting you vs a T10, is a huge difference.. So, by the way it does make a big matter in the Tier you play in..

 

What I was inferring, the CdC gets penned by anything from Tier VI to Tier X. Yes the alpha makes a difference, but only if you get hit.

So the rule is the same. The difference is how long you survive from one hit.

To me, I don't have a different meta based on the Tier. I play to preserve my hit points.

It helps that my favorite tank is the AMX Chaffee. Again, 600 HP makes you 1 shot at any Tier.



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Fair enough..:)




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