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Poll: Cross-play Hiatus (116 members have cast votes)

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What do you believe to be the reason as to why cross-play is in a state of hiatus on World of Tanks Console?

  1. Limitations from the Xbox 360. (88 votes [75.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 75.86%

  2. Cost effect related issues. (8 votes [6.90%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.90%

  3. Sony is lying with their public announcements. (1 vote [0.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.86%

  4. Cross-play will definitely come. There is some reason why this game specifically, is unable to implement it. (19 votes [16.38%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.38%

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FBPrime #1 Posted 22 November 2019 - 06:05 PM

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Now that there has been dozens if threads regarding the matter, with no definitive answer from WG, what does the community believe to be the reason behind the silence of crossplay for this game?  Especially with Warships having officially announced cross-play the other day, it further raises questions with WOT console as to why they are not able to add in cross-play.  For the longest time it was stated by mods here that it would be so easy, 'just flipping a switch'.  But due to no open negotiation of cross-play at that time it was an acceptable answer.  But now with Sony having given the green light to any developers, WGCB had gone nearly silent on the discussion.  The only real response given at this point is, "we will look into it", "it's a goal for us".   


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Connor McJesus #2 Posted 22 November 2019 - 06:13 PM

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They won't kill off the 360 along as there are still those who would rather spend loads of money on tanks than to upgrade to hardware from this decade.

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Joco3000 #3 Posted 22 November 2019 - 06:13 PM

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I am convinced that the issue is the 360 somewhere along the line.

 

It might be technological, or it might be that Sony doesn't want the PS4 to be playing with a console that's older than a good proportion of the playerbase (which I consider a fair and reasonable position to stand on).

Either way, the relic is the problem.

 

They announced years ago that PS4-Xbox cross-play was done routinely in-house, so I have no idea what the actual issue is.


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Jungl1st-Souljah #4 Posted 22 November 2019 - 06:20 PM

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View PostJoco3000, on 22 November 2019 - 06:13 PM, said:

I am convinced that the issue is the 360 somewhere along the line.

 

It might be technological, or it might be that Sony doesn't want the PS4 to be playing with a console that's older than a good proportion of the playerbase (which I consider a fair and reasonable position to stand on).

Either way, the relic is the problem.

 

They announced years ago that PS4-Xbox cross-play was done routinely in-house, so I have no idea what the actual issue is.

 

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scwirpeo #5 Posted 22 November 2019 - 07:10 PM

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With WoWs having it confirmed already how could it not be related to the one major difference in our games.

The 360.


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Mashed #6 Posted 22 November 2019 - 07:26 PM

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Unless 360 is dumped on its own server with bots, I don't see it ever happening.

 

Which is a shame, as I'd like to see the game on XB1 & PS4 grow.


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CatSnipah #7 Posted 22 November 2019 - 07:38 PM

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View PostJoco3000, on 22 November 2019 - 06:13 PM, said:

I am convinced that the issue is the 360 somewhere along the line.

 

It might be technological, or it might be that Sony doesn't want the PS4 to be playing with a console that's older than a good proportion of the playerbase (which I consider a fair and reasonable position to stand on).

Either way, the relic is the problem.

 

They announced years ago that PS4-Xbox cross-play was done routinely in-house, so I have no idea what the actual issue is.

 

100% concur with all points in this post.

CatSnipah #8 Posted 22 November 2019 - 07:39 PM

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View Postscwirpeo, on 22 November 2019 - 07:10 PM, said:

With WoWs having it confirmed already how could it not be related to the one major difference in our games.

The 360.

 

That is an undeniable difference between the situations, is it not?

FBPrime #9 Posted 22 November 2019 - 07:57 PM

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Seems most people hold the belief that we are in fact tied to a 360 lb ball and chain.

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PinkishOcean430 #10 Posted 22 November 2019 - 08:07 PM

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The question is, why the attachment to 360?

 

Is it contractual?

 

Cross-play and upgrading for the PS5/Scorpio will bring many more new players than 360 will.  All those systems launch will small libraries and a FTP game is an easy way to fill those gaps.

 

Either they are legally tied to the 360 or they are too lazy/not enough money to move the game to this gen let alone next gen.



El Materdor43 #11 Posted 22 November 2019 - 08:31 PM

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View PostPinkishOcean430, on 22 November 2019 - 03:07 PM, said:

The question is, why the attachment to 360?

 

Is it contractual?

 

Cross-play and upgrading for the PS5/Scorpio will bring many more new players than 360 will.  All those systems launch will small libraries and a FTP game is an easy way to fill those gaps.

 

Either they are legally tied to the 360 or they are too lazy/not enough money to move the game to this gen let alone next gen.

In my opinion, there is no logical reason for the 360 still being supported by WG other than contractual 


   

 

                                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                 

 


Warsteiner 1 #12 Posted 22 November 2019 - 08:33 PM

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My opinion.....give the 360 their own server to play on and let the current gens merg.

And if there aren't enough players to support a 360 only server , well then why exactly are we letting so few people with ancient tech hold our version back ?


 

 


GinTonicus #13 Posted 22 November 2019 - 08:39 PM

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The devs are still claiming, even in the latest stream, that development is not being held back by the 360. There are many problematic things stemming from that line of thinking.

 

That tells me only one thing: That they have no real plans to develop the game in a way that would take advantage of the massive leap in resources afforded by even the base xbox one/ps4 over the 360.

 

If the 360-boat-anchor isn't holding back development then the only logical conclusion is that there is really no meaningful development going on i.e. no new modes like frontlines (almost certainly no way the 360 could handle that), bigger maps, better graphics, more advanced physics etc..



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No big deal. All this announcement shows is that warships has the “b” team while tanks is stuck with the “c” team. 

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I've said since the beginning of about Crossplay. It's either the 360 or $$$. You know what's funny though. WG decide to release update notes early when everyone was going on about Crossplay and most totally forgot about the Crossplay issue. LOL oh look a goodyear blimp

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JelliedPenny08 #17 Posted 22 November 2019 - 10:58 PM

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They have implied the contractual / legal problems associated with the birth of the game several times over the years along with the ability for crossplay across all consoles in house without problems. I have always assumed the barriers were paper ones and not technological. 

 

I think it is something to do with the way the game evolved from 360 ~> One ~> ps4  and that maybe the contracts that allowed the game onto console favoured microsoft specifically through 360. I think that Sony never quite got onto the same parity in the contracts and that it has been a sticking point since. 

 

Contracts are far harder to overcome than tech barriers. WG has always claimed they had overcome those tech barriers anyway. However they have been and are working on it. WoWs is just paving the way. Speculating on how far they are through the process and what it will look like is just that. Demanding it looks one way or another is pointless as the community will take whatever WG can negotiate for us. Fortunately what the community wants will benefit WG and the game lifespan. 

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View PostJelliedPenny08, on 22 November 2019 - 10:58 PM, said:

They have implied the contractual / legal problems associated with the birth of the game several times over the years along with the ability for crossplay across all consoles in house without problems. I have always assumed the barriers were paper ones and not technological. 

 

I think it is something to do with the way the game evolved from 360 ~> One ~> ps4  and that maybe the contracts that allowed the game onto console favoured microsoft specifically through 360. I think that Sony never quite got onto the same parity in the contracts and that it has been a sticking point since. 

 

Contracts are far harder to overcome than tech barriers. WG has always claimed they had overcome those tech barriers anyway. However they have been and are working on it. WoWs is just paving the way. Speculating on how far they are through the process and what it will look like is just that. Demanding it looks one way or another is pointless as the community will take whatever WG can negotiate for us. Fortunately what the community wants will benefit WG and the game lifespan. 

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I understand and agree on some points. Thou why did they decide to release patch notes for an update today? They've never released this stuff before and always has an excuse for not releasing it. So why now? I've always said that wg console thinks as it's community as children and gullible. 

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TheOnlyTrueNoob #19 Posted 22 November 2019 - 11:56 PM

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View PostIBROX 04, on 22 November 2019 - 11:54 PM, said:

 

I understand and agree on some points. Thou why did they decide to release patch notes for an update today? They've never released this stuff before and always has an excuse for not releasing it. So why now? I've always said that wg console thinks as it's community as children and gullible. 

 

Well, tbf, whilst they may not be children a lot of the players in this community are pretty thick.

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Are there any legal reasons for keeping the 360 in WOT’s?  Could that counsel be dropped or not?







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