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STUART SHERMAN #1 Posted 22 November 2019 - 08:03 PM

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Tiger 131 is widely considered one of the best Premium tanks in the game. Some would say it’s Over Powered. 
I resisted buying 131 as it does not appear to be a huge improvement over the TT Tiger that I like so well. I did finally cave in and bought 131 and I must admit it’s a very good tank. However, TT Tiger does not lose much if anything to its Premium counterpart.

These are the differences between them. 
TT Tiger weighs 168 pounds more. I consider this irrelevant in a vehicle that weighs over 56,000 pounds. 

1. Main gun            131                      TT

          Reload        5.5 sec.*              6.7 sec. 

        Damage    169/227/53*          203*/237*/44

   Penetration    220/ 220/ 270         240*/240*/295*

      Aim Time           2.3*                     2.7

   Depression           8 deg.*              7 deg. 
      Elevation          15 deg.*             13 deg.

      Accuracy          0.36m                  0.34m*

   Ammo Cap.       92 rounds*         72 rounds 
2. Concealment

      Stationary          0.13*                 0.11

           Moving          0.08*                0.06
3. Traverse Speed

   Turret speed       20 deg.            23 deg.*
      Hull Speed       28 deg.*           26deg. 

4. Terrain Resistance 

                             1*/1.3*/2.8       1.1/1.4/2.7*
5. Power to Weight

                              15.29 H/T*      15.25 H/T

6. Signal Range  

                               620 m               710m*

 

The most glaring differences are reload times but this is somewhat offset by lower pen values in 131. The other is signal range which TT Tiger wins handily. 
So PMM aside is 131 really that OP or just a slightly better version of an already real good tank?

 


                                   

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SPUK4U #2 Posted 22 November 2019 - 08:09 PM

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Tiger 131 has preferred matchmaking, unlike poor Tiger 1 it will never see tier IX battles.  
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STUART SHERMAN #3 Posted 22 November 2019 - 08:14 PM

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View PostSPUK4U, on 22 November 2019 - 03:09 PM, said:

Tiger 131 has preferred matchmaking, unlike poor Tiger 1 it will never see tier IX battles.  

 

Right you are and I meant to have that in there.  :facepalm:
Still don’t think Tiger is a worse tank and being -2 sometimes is manageable with her. 
 

                                   

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View PostSTUART SHERMAN, on 22 November 2019 - 03:14 PM, said:

 

Right you are and I meant to have that in there.  :facepalm:
Still don’t think Tiger is a worse tank and being -2 sometimes is manageable with her. 
 

The Tiger can hold its own when -2. Bearing in mind that like any tank that’s -2, you are support. It’s RoF, accuracy and prem pen make it pretty good when bottom tier 


   

 

                                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                 

 


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View PostSTUART SHERMAN, on 22 November 2019 - 08:14 PM, said:

 

Right you are and I meant to have that in there.  :facepalm:
Still don’t think Tiger is a worse tank and being -2 sometimes is manageable with her. 
 

 

Tiger 1 / 131's problem is the armor, it's useless in brawling, it's only armor is hit points and it tends to get ammo racked a lot so you are more or less forced to play second line or snipe from the back.  Problems come when it's matched with heavy tank that actually has armor and front line has to push with one heavy sitting in back.   When I usually see a heavy tank sniping from the back it's Tiger.  I can understand why people play base defenders with them, it's easy to get a good score when bleeding enemy rolls to kill arty and base defender.  My opinion is that T29 is a lot better heavy tank than Tiger 1 and Minuteman is better premium than Tiger 131.
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View PostSPUK4U, on 22 November 2019 - 03:30 PM, said:

 

Tiger 1 / 131's problem is the armor, it's useless in brawling, it's only armor is hit points and it tends to get ammo racked a lot so you are more or less forced to play second line or snipe from the back.  Problems come when it's matched with heavy tank that actually has armor and front line has to push with one heavy sitting in back.   When I usually see a heavy tank sniping from the back it's Tiger.  I can understand why people play base defenders with them, it's easy to get a good score when bleeding enemy rolls to kill arty and base defender.  My opinion is that T29 is a lot better heavy tank than Tiger 1 and Minuteman is better premium than Tiger 131.

I don’t sit back and snipe with mine. It’s a 2nd line support tank. Again, the RoF and Prem pen make it quite good in that role. If you are trying to brawl in the Tiger I, it should be in late game situations where you can afford to trade some of your HP to get a kill. 
 

Also the T29. Yes it’s good and the Tiger shouldn’t brawl against it. You have to keep distance between you and it.  The hull on the T29 can be penned and the cupola, although it’s harder to hit.  Bottom line, don’t 1v1 brawl against the T29


   

 

                                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                 

 


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View PostSTUART SHERMAN, on 22 November 2019 - 08:14 PM, said:

 

Right you are and I meant to have that in there.  :facepalm:
Still don’t think Tiger is a worse tank and being -2 sometimes is manageable with her. 
 

 

Tiger 131 is the better tank BUT i always did better in my Tiger Hammer and did badly in the little time in the Tiger 131.

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The 131 is stupid,  add in the fact it is always top tier during these events just makes It even  more ludicrous.

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I like the better ROF and I think its is good 1v1 vs a T29.  The trick is to use the 131s agility to get the soft points on the T29 exposed.  Yes, I would never head to head brawl with a T29.

 

Back to the TigerI, yes it is a very good tank as well but, you also have to factor in the extra silver and XP that you earn because it is a premium.  This makes it a much more efficient tank to roll out,  PMM makes it a clear winner.


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View PostSPUK4U, on 22 November 2019 - 08:30 PM, said:

 

Tiger 1 / 131's problem is the armor, it's useless in brawling, it's only armor is hit points and it tends to get ammo racked a lot so you are more or less forced to play second line or snipe from the back.  Problems come when it's matched with heavy tank that actually has armor and front line has to push with one heavy sitting in back.   When I usually see a heavy tank sniping from the back it's Tiger.  I can understand why people play base defenders with them, it's easy to get a good score when bleeding enemy rolls to kill arty and base defender.  My opinion is that T29 is a lot better heavy tank than Tiger 1 and Minuteman is better premium than Tiger 131.

In an up-front battle, I agree.  However, the Tigers are better at being flexible in their use, more like a medium.  I enjoy them all, but I would certainly take M-man over T-29 & 131 more often than Tiger I...But you already know that I am a complete slag for the Premium tanks, ammo, etc....lol!


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One day i will have a 131,  until then i will keep angering map pingers and tank purists with my hammer.  The major difference is 1 v 1 between hammer and 131 is the 131 shreds the hammer.  True thehammer has higher dmg per round, but the 131 is just round after round after round.  I treat the 131 as a high priority target.

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TT Tiger 1.

 

 



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It's ok not everyone can be a super uni and understand how broken the 131 is. My advice, try running apcr and if you can't figure it out after a few games let the supers do the stat analysis from now on.


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View Postscwirpeo, on 23 November 2019 - 07:57 AM, said:

It's ok not everyone can be a super uni and understand how broken the 131 is. My advice, try running apcr and if you can't figure it out after a few games let the supers do the stat analysis from now on.
 


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View PostJohn Arrowsmith, on 22 November 2019 - 03:53 PM, said:

The 131 is stupid,  add in the fact it is always top tier during these events just makes It even  more ludicrous.

 

So the way I’m seeing it, real difference is PMM.
So if PMM is the only major advantage wouldn’t that suggest that a large part of the Tank Tree would need to be rebalanced if -1/+1 was made permanent? 

                                   

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View PostSTUART SHERMAN, on 24 November 2019 - 09:22 AM, said:

 

So the way I’m seeing it, real difference is PMM.
So if PMM is the only major advantage wouldn’t that suggest that a large part of the Tank Tree would need to be rebalanced if -1/+1 was made permanent? 

 

PMM is a big part of its curb appeal along with its mobility. The lower alpha and pen are mostly nonissues for it as it has a great rate of fire. Not that the ly upgraded Tiger I is bad mind you and if in the same tier battle it has a slight edge. But especially during the mm tests when a 131 is always top tier it can,smash an enemy team more effectively. The 131 along with a lot of,other premiums would require mass rebalancing as would a fair number of tech tree tanks were special mm ever introduced. Some of those tanks are ridiculous even when -1 


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Honestly I much prefer the TT tiger to the 131
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Is no one going to mention the T-VI 100. Playing with that 100mm on a tiger is just down right dirty. You think your swedish td is safe from a 8.8 or a 90mm? Sure. But the 100mm has caught many a player off guard.
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View PostXT356, on 24 November 2019 - 11:23 PM, said:

Is no one going to mention the T-VI 100. Playing with that 100mm on a tiger is just down right dirty. You think your swedish td is safe from a 8.8 or a 90mm? Sure. But the 100mm has caught many a player off guard.

 

That is another one I enjoy I don't play it hardly enough though. When I roll out Soviet heavies its almost always Judge Dread first and foremost. Because why slap someone for 240 when you can slap them for 700?

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