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Poll: Would you like a tier VI Premium pre-nerf AMX ELC BIS? (96 members have cast votes)

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Would you like a tier VI Premium pre-nerf AMX ELC BIS?

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M4ntiX #1 Posted 09 December 2019 - 01:18 PM

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Dear WG,

Since you're so proficient at releasing new Premium tanks, despite of other areas of the game that may need addressing first (vehicle balancing, bug fixes, new maps, etc, who cares right?), can you please give us the un-nerfed AMX ELC BIS as a tier VI Premium Tank?

 

Pc players were recently given the Super Hellcat (pre-nerf version of this iconic tank at tier VII), can you do the same for us? Well, when I say the same I mean sell, not give, obviously... Duh.

 

Thoughts? :) Thanks.

 

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It's a tank suggestion that's on the wish list. Maybe someday it'll be a thing, we'll see! :honoring:

M4ntiX #3 Posted 09 December 2019 - 01:24 PM

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View PostMaxChaos24, on 09 December 2019 - 01:22 PM, said:

It's a tank suggestion that's on the wish list. Maybe someday it'll be a thing, we'll see! :honoring:

 

I see. Hopefully it will make it to WOTC 2.0 then. :)


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MaxChaos24 #4 Posted 09 December 2019 - 01:27 PM

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View PostM4ntiX, on 09 December 2019 - 08:24 AM, said:

 

I see. Hopefully it will make it to WOTC 2.0 then. :)

 

Will keep an eye on the poll and feel free to also suggest the stats/tier you'd like to see it at also. :great:

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View PostMaxChaos24, on 09 December 2019 - 01:22 PM, said:

It's a tank suggestion that's on the wish list. Maybe someday it'll be a thing, we'll see! :honoring:

 

M41 Bulldog as a Tier 9 with the Autoloader for Free XP (Or put it in the Tech Tree as an alternate to the T49, Don't remove T49 or the Tier 8 Bulldog, Could call it M41 Bulldog Auto)

Durp Gun back on the VK 28.01 (Not sure why it was removed, If this can't be a thing, add as a Tier 7 Premium with PMM or a Tier 6 Premium with T-50-2 Matchmaking)

SP1C as a Tier 8 Premium German Autoloader

 



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View PostMaxChaos24, on 09 December 2019 - 01:27 PM, said:

 

Will keep an eye on the poll and feel free to also suggest the stats/tier you'd like to see it at also. :great:

 

Thanks Max! I would suggest the following:

 

Tier VI, PMM: +2/-1 (same as T-50-2)

Health: 520

Alpha: 240

Penetration: 170/248/45 (AP/APCR/HE)

Reload: 12 seconds

Dispersion while moving: .20; traverse: .17; turret traverse: .20

 

Top speed: 65km/h

Reverse speed: 20km/h

Power: 250hp

 

All other stats I think should be OK as is.


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View PostMASHMAN 90, on 09 December 2019 - 01:39 PM, said:

 

M41 Bulldog as a Tier 9 with the Autoloader for Free XP (Or put it in the Tech Tree as an alternate to the T49, Don't remove T49 or the Tier 8 Bulldog, Could call it M41 Bulldog Auto)

Durp Gun back on the VK 28.01 (Not sure why it was removed, If this can't be a thing, add as a Tier 7 Premium with PMM or a Tier 6 Premium with T-50-2 Matchmaking)

SP1C as a Tier 8 Premium German Autoloader

 

For the M41, just call it the T41 Stage III.

I think tier VIII would be more suitable, as it's a 76mm gun.

 

I still think that WG should introduce that Czech Tiger I with the 75mm Autoloader from the Skoda T 25.

People like autoloading Czech premiums. 


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View PostMaxChaos24, on 09 December 2019 - 10:22 PM, said:

It's a tank suggestion that's on the wish list. Maybe someday it'll be a thing, we'll see! :honoring:

 

could we get a Premium Chi-Ri with the autoloader?

i would love to see a premium reskin of that tank and the autoloader is sooo unique for a japanese tank.

 


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View PostJoco3000, on 09 December 2019 - 01:47 PM, said:

For the M41, just call it the T41 Stage III.

I think tier VIII would be more suitable, as it's a 76mm gun.

 

I still think that WG should introduce that Czech Tiger I with the 75mm Autoloader from the Skoda T 25.

People like autoloading Czech premiums. 

 

i wouldn't say No, Ragnarok is fun and i enjoy Tigers. Reason i said Tier 9 is Autoloader was removed when the Lights got reshuffled the single shot package if it became a Tier 9 could turn into the T49 single fire gun and then autoloader as a last package. While a Tier 8 would be fun, it may be too powerful. Unfortunately i didn't have the pleasure of playing it. Closest i've felt to that is the AMX 13 57.

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Ah the good old days. My first 3-marked tank. Was my most played for quite a long time. 

 

I think I've played 5 games in it since it was nerfed, and none in quite a long time. 

 

Oh, it was also responsible for my first Kolobanov medal. 1 v 6 on the old Westfield. Silly reds tried to chase me down one at a time instead of forcing my hand by capping. I was actually 2 rounds away from also having a Fadin's in the same match. 

 

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I'd like an un-nerfed VK45B from 4.0 and before please.  Make it the first tier 9 premium.

 

My dislike of +/- 1 pales in comparison to my hatred of Loaded Dice.


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For some reason it kind of upsets me to think that I’d have to pay to get some of my favorite tanks back. Yes I want them back but having to pay for is pretty lame in my opinion.
 

The ELC does make sense as a premium because it was drastically different back then. Auto loading Bulldog, Derp VK 28.01, Derp M5 Stuart and the others with removed guns should just have access to them again.


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View PostTocFanKe4, on 09 December 2019 - 08:26 AM, said:

I'd like an un-nerfed VK45B from 4.0 and before please. Make it the first tier 9 premium.

 

like this. Wouldn’t it upset you having to buy a better version of a tank you’ve already played. It would make the TT version pointless.

Lights tanks need rebalanced(again)

​Update 4.2 and 4.6 were terrible


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View PostMaxChaos24, on 09 December 2019 - 01:22 PM, said:

It's a tank suggestion that's on the wish list. Maybe someday it'll be a thing, we'll see! :honoring:

 

it best be  behind an M3 Lee.:trollface:

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View PostKaboost, on 09 December 2019 - 01:12 PM, said:

 

like this. Wouldn’t it upset you having to buy a better version of a tank you’ve already played. It would make the TT version pointless.

 

It's already pointless. E75 is better in every way and the Conq leaves them all in the dust. I don't care how it comes back. I just want it back


 

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The old elc was probably the most unique tank in the game. Insane skill ceiling and an abysmal skill floor. I'm still annoyed they nerfed it because good players did good in it and bad players were real bad.

 

Played one battle in the new one and sold it. I would buy a prem of the old style.

View PostTocFanKe4, on 09 December 2019 - 07:26 AM, said:

I'd like an un-nerfed VK45B from 4.0 and before please. Make it the first tier 9 premium.

 

They are probably still too busy trying to figure out how to justify the first nerf they gave it, considering it's actual battle performance.


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I never got to play the pre nerfed ELC.

I was aware of it's reputation though, and hated facing it.

The nerfed ELC is a brilliant TD, but not a good light.


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While we're at it, can we consider a Bulldog with Autoloader like it had in the old days?

 

                             

 

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View Postscwirpeo, on 09 December 2019 - 03:45 PM, said:

 

They are probably still too busy trying to figure out how to justify the first nerf they gave it, considering it's actual battle performance.

 

I think their statements at the time was that it was actually a buff with the stronger side armor and removal of of the small gun port "weak" spot.  They said they adjusted the tank to "play more like the other German heavies". 

 

My personal theory was that rear turret Russian tanks were on the horizon on PC, so they needed to nerf the German rear turret tank.  The new tanks had to be better than the old German one.  Console just did a copy/paste. 


 

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