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Chr15py #1 Posted 18 December 2019 - 01:17 PM

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Seriously, what are you doing??? You're releasing three new tanks that are IN EVERY WAY better than their premium counterparts!

 

Demolisher T28 Prototype - An autoloader with lots of armour...if you campare it to the tech tree T29 Proto then ok...its balanced. HOWEVER, it's better than the T32a Prototype with the same gun (but better) and as that doesn't have armour and this does, its just a complete replacement! The T32a needs the T32 tech tree turret to even be remotely comparable instead of the stupid stock T32 turret. 

 

Eradicator Caernarvon - Basically an autoloading Caernarvon AX. Will be honest and havent seen the stats on this BUT having seen the other two, I have no doubt that this will also be better in every way! 

 

Earthshaker Strv 102 - giving the primo the Charioteers / Cent 7/1's gun. Seriously???

 

Of the three, the Strv102 is the least maddening as I would still take my Strv 81 up against it as at least the turret is as awesome and it can quite happily defend itself back. However, the Caen' AX has just been succeeded massively as it has the same armour but burst damage and the T32a prototype....what an effing joke!!!

 

Well played WG...you know you're alienating the people who have bought into the game in the past right? And yes, that includes me...:sceptic:

 

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radonism #2 Posted 18 December 2019 - 01:35 PM

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Totally agree. I'd accept all these more and more powerful premiums, if they balanced the rest of game accordingly.

 

But, the direction of travel is clear: The game is what it is, don't like it, don't play it, but we're going to keep releasing every more powerful premiums because they sell. 

 

Top 15 by average damage tier 8 tanks are now all premiums: http://www.wotinfo.n...r=8&server=xbox

 

Is that Pay 2 Win? Hard to draw other conclusions tbh.


  

redshadowrider #3 Posted 18 December 2019 - 01:43 PM

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WG has hooked the tanker population on needing more OP tanks without balancing current ones.  Seems about right......it's even been admitted that earlier tanks will be, or are already be obsolete.  They have us chasing the new best thing, and we let them do it.  No surprises here.


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Agreed. The powercreep and obsession with autoloaders is real. And ironically the TT tanks are "perfectly balanced" :sceptic:

Maxipotzac #5 Posted 18 December 2019 - 01:45 PM

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Fortunately, there won't be many of them in the game because they are limited ...... like the black tanks :trollface:

 

but seriously 22 sec reload (T28) ... really? Then will the Iron Rain reload be buffed? ELC90 also has more reload time. Does the WT auf E100 get a camouflage? I also paid for Iron now I feel cheated .. The T28 have better reload, better armor, better movement (ok the PEN is lower....)

 

I'm small to understand these decisions :child:


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View Postradonism, on 18 December 2019 - 01:35 PM, said:

Totally agree. I'd accept all these more and more powerful premiums, if they balanced the rest of game accordingly.

 

But, the direction of travel is clear: The game is what it is, don't like it, don't play it, but we're going to keep releasing every more powerful premiums because they sell. 

 

Top 15 by average damage tier 8 tanks are now all premiums: http://www.wotinfo.n...r=8&server=xbox

 

Is that Pay 2 Win? Hard to draw other conclusions tbh.

 

In fact from that list of the top 51 tanks only one is a TT tank which I really don't find hard to believe considering that there are sooooo many Tier VIII Premium tanks. Still, there are some very good Tier VIII Tech Tree tank in the game and I am surprised that I don't see them higher on the list. I guess people just grind them and move on.

 

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dzhey43 #7 Posted 18 December 2019 - 01:56 PM

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These 3 tanks has 75% to crew xp..
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ToxicBullbog #8 Posted 18 December 2019 - 01:56 PM

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Profiting with as little effort as possible? i don't think the development team have any interest in WoT:C other than it paying the bills.


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TDECK1 #9 Posted 18 December 2019 - 01:58 PM

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The writing is on the wall. The population is quickly dropping because players are sick and tired of not being listened too. They should have replicated the R6 Siege model and ran with it. By comparison it is dirt cheap to play. It is also very well balanced with constant quality updates and a healthy population. Almost forgot 60 fps. My point is that it can be done but requires significant changes from the developers. 

mr_rainmaker777 #10 Posted 18 December 2019 - 01:59 PM

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uhh this is WG we are talking about so in reality they most likey will come in super nerfed :D

radonism #11 Posted 18 December 2019 - 02:03 PM

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View PostAlbapfalzd3, on 18 December 2019 - 01:46 PM, said:

 

In fact from that list of the top 51 tanks only one is a TT tank which I really don't find hard to believe considering that there are sooooo many Tier VIII Premium tanks. Still, there are some very good Tier VIII Tech Tree tank in the game and I am surprised that I don't see them higher on the list. I guess people just grind them and move on.

 

Roy

 

Yep, you are right. I stopped counting once I reach the first tech tree tank.

 

However, what is clear is that premium tanks utterly dominate highest average damage. I guess in a sense that is somewhat explainable, in that there are no stock grinds in premium tanks, hence they fully perform from game 1. But I don't think that's the full picture here. Premiums also dominate the "league table" in win rate, kill/death ratio and, frankly, every other merit. 

 

I think it is totally fine to release ever stronger premiums because they sell. I've no issue with that and no issue at all with WG making as much money as they can. But it is a fools game to not balance the rest of the tier against these ever more powerful premiums. Evidenced by the collapse in players numbers.

 

There are still many more tech tree tanks than premiums, but pretty much all of them are a shadow of their paid for but stronger cousins (because we mainly talking about re-skins). 


  

Schiavoser #12 Posted 18 December 2019 - 02:05 PM

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I want WG to revise the Japanese Heavy line and make them all move like the O-I Exp used to. Type-5 Heavy coming downhill towards you at 35 kph!

 

... and WG should make them autoloaders, too.



DertyChewbacca #13 Posted 18 December 2019 - 02:10 PM

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More OP premium tanks but STB-1, E50, Italians, 121, WZ-132-1, etc. all remain in their current state. Okay.

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when a t110e4 premium with autoloader , 10 secs to reload 6 shells ??? 

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View PostMaxipotzac, on 18 December 2019 - 08:45 AM, said:

Fortunately, there won't be many of them in the game because they are limited ...... like the black tanks :trollface:

 

Ugh....I’m going to have to wait a full 2 weeks before these become “personal offers” and it just sickens me!


 


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View PostLosc60250, on 18 December 2019 - 08:12 AM, said:

when a t110e4 premium with autoloader , 10 secs to reload 6 shells ??? 

 

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https://console.worl...rvon_AX_LE2019/
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wake_the_move #18 Posted 18 December 2019 - 02:21 PM

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They try to keep the revenues running and with it their jobs. Look at the server population. 
Yet I am also not happy with these developments, since there are alternatives in order to keep the game being lucrative.

 


Edited by wake_the_move, 18 December 2019 - 02:25 PM.


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This game has become a joke,
the devs are a joke,
this company is a joke ...


 

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