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wake_the_move #21 Posted 18 December 2019 - 02:26 PM

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Now, that Eradicator looks far more imposing than the other two (and the previous three) stat wise. The Earthshaker might have an L7 gun, yet it got a low rate of fire and significantly reduced pen on it’s APCR. The HESH however seems to be unnerfed and will prove to be devastating against low tier tanks, especially tier 6.

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View PostSbornaja, on 18 December 2019 - 05:23 PM, said:

This game has become a joke,
the devs are a joke,
this company is a joke ...
 

 

You just wait for some new limited white pack of three next month.
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Don´t forget that we have been asking for a autoloading death-star with spaced armor for ages (I´m joking). :trollface:

Chr15py #24 Posted 18 December 2019 - 02:46 PM

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Thank god its not just me that seems to be incensed about how WG are "playing the game". Ive now seen the new Caern stats and definitely feel it is now just pay to win.

 

Does make the case fo the T32 Proto to get the better T32 turret more viable though

 

Max & Rai - any chance you could point this post toward the people who might be able to do something about this?


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scwirpeo #25 Posted 18 December 2019 - 02:49 PM

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Did anyone even buy the AX? I saw like 3 of them when it released. Maybe it's a desperate bid to get some money out of the asset.

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View Postscwirpeo, on 18 December 2019 - 02:49 PM, said:

Did anyone even buy the AX? I saw like 3 of them when it released. Maybe it's a desperate bid to get some money out of the asset.

 

they probably bought the Paladin

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View Postscwirpeo, on 18 December 2019 - 02:49 PM, said:

Did anyone even buy the AX? I saw like 3 of them when it released. Maybe it's a desperate bid to get some money out of the asset.

 

I did. Didn't like the Paladin colour scheme so bought the AX :(

 

Plus surely if that was the case, upgrading the AX to the new version would give:

A) peeps who already have it a big upgrade and 

B) Not piss off the people who have, especially recently as both the AX and Paladin have been on DotW...


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View PostMASHMAN 90, on 18 December 2019 - 07:49 AM, said:

 

they probably bought the Paladin

 

Saw some of those but still not many. They release so many premiums tho almost none of them ever get enough battles to even use to balance them tho. Just look at the tanks 30 days in vs the old prems 30 days in, it's shocking to say the least.

 

I guess the good news is WG can basically release any tank imaginable now and the spreadsheet will defend it's performance on the lack of actual data alone.


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View PostChr15py, on 18 December 2019 - 02:46 PM, said:

 

Does make the case fo the T32 Proto to get the better T32 turret more viable though

Think again. The T32-A Proto won‘t get buffed. Instead they‘ll bring an elite version (probably with the T119 turret) in order to sell the tank once more. Probably the IS-3A auto reloader version will show up as an elite version instead of the current one getting changed.


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View PostChr15py, on 18 December 2019 - 07:52 AM, said:

 

I did. Didn't like the Paladin colour scheme so bought the AX :(

 

That's an oof. Honestly tho is anyone here not expecting to have their prems replaced by the better model in a few months time? It's so common now it's basically textbook CB at this point.

 

Edit for your edit: If they cared about pissing off buyers, they would never have sold the 5/4 the second time.

 


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View PostChr15py, on 18 December 2019 - 02:46 PM, said:

 

Max & Rai - any chance you could point this post toward the people who might be able to do something about this?

 


They can direct it to the necessary people but I guarantee you your feedback would be dismissed without a second thought. WGCB do not give one singular [edited]about player feedback.


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Why all the hate here?  And no I'm not just trolling.  The natural progression for every game I have ever played is to faze out old content and bring in new shinny stuff.  Most folks once they have completed a grind don't keep the older tanks.  Most avg players don't grind moe.  However alot of folks keep premium tanks.

I have finished every grind I care about.  Now on any given day I play my 10,s that I want to play and then cycle through my premium tanks.  When I get bored I shut it off.  

I'm looking forward to seeing new tanks.  If they are op then cool I might buy them.   If not then I probably won't.  Alot of avg players want to curb stomp everybody and they feel like a beast will give them an edge to get it done.  Remember the air Jordan commercials.  It's gotta be the shoes?  

Even our stupid op tanks now only perform well in the hands of capable tankers.  Look up deathstar hesh barn waffle etc etc.  And then you have the Italian line on the other end that is seriously looking asking for more dpm.  

The nature of gaming is bigger faster stronger.  Maybe a reality check is needed here.  

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View Postspuddud987654321, on 18 December 2019 - 08:00 AM, said:

Why all the hate here? And no I'm not just trolling. The natural progression for every game I have ever played is to faze out old content and bring in new shinny stuff. Most folks once they have completed a grind don't keep the older tanks. Most avg players don't grind moe. However alot of folks keep premium tanks.

I have finished every grind I care about. Now on any given day I play my 10,s that I want to play and then cycle through my premium tanks. When I get bored I shut it off.

I'm looking forward to seeing new tanks. If they are op then cool I might buy them. If not then I probably won't. Alot of avg players want to curb stomp everybody and they feel like a beast will give them an edge to get it done. Remember the air Jordan commercials. It's gotta be the shoes?

Even our stupid op tanks now only perform well in the hands of capable tankers. Look up deathstar hesh barn waffle etc etc. And then you have the Italian line on the other end that is seriously looking asking for more dpm.

The nature of gaming is bigger faster stronger. Maybe a reality check is needed here.

 

People probably wouldn't care if the tanks in question didn't cost 50$+ or if CB did balance passes that actually balanced the tanks that needed it.

 

PS. A constantly shifting meta is bad for keeping players invested in the game. Not my comment, that's directly from the guy in charge of our balance team. Who's apparently completely fine with the meta taking a dump as long as it's prems doing it.


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View Postspuddud987654321, on 18 December 2019 - 04:00 PM, said:

Why all the hate here? And no I'm not just trolling. The natural progression for every game I have ever played is to faze out old content and bring in new shinny stuff

 

What bloody shinny new stuff do you mean? Awesome emblems? Epic re-skins again? Sci-Fi tanks? This Xmas garage? What exactly are you talking about ...


 

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My initial thoughts.

 

Demolisher, Only 198 pen so may be okay though the Revalorise with 200/250 is workable. Against Tier 8s it should dominate. Against Tier 10, it may struggle, similar to Ragnarok BUT that Reload Time of 22 seconds is what scares me as the Ragnarok is 30 seconds but the Silver Bonus makes Ragnarok very relevant along with Mobility.

 

Eradicator, I Fully agree about this one. Makes Caernarvon and Paladin obsolete. T-32A has that 10% Free XP Bonus which saves the vehicle but other than that, it makes T32-A Obsolete, For T32-A to be relevant, it should have a faster reload OR the Top T32 Turret but then it makes the Tech Tree Equivalent obsolete. I'm always a believer that Premiums should be weaker than Tech Tree Tanks. Defintely OP.

 

Earthshaker, Not OP at all, The HESH similar to the Charioteer will be fantastic, 236 Base Pen is fine. Just like the Charioteer, i would only load AP and Premium HESH, No HE, you'll do yourself a disservice, or you can do a Deathstar and load Full Premium HESH. Low Pen and Higher Reload means the Tank is Balanced and i'm fine entering the game (Don't shoot my UDES 03 or Grille 15 please :unsure:)

 

Two out of three are fine in my opinion. The Eradicator however shouldn't enter the game in it's current state and should have at least a 25 second reload, or even upped to 30 seconds. In it's current state, i would have given it the Stock Caernarvon Turret to be like the T32-A Prototype.



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Hehe shinny new auto loaders of course.  Maybe it's just me not stressing because I have disposable income this time of year.  Sorry to pee in everybodies Cheerios.

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The Earthshaker as top tier will be overkill for many tier 6‘s, though, due to the HESH. High penetration semi-derp. Btw. the Charioteer has got APCR as standard, so I guess the Earthshaker will have the same.


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View PostMASHMAN 90, on 18 December 2019 - 08:11 AM, said:

My initial thoughts.

 

Demolisher, Only 198 pen so may be okay though the Revalorise with 200/250 is workable. Against Tier 8s it should dominate. Against Tier 10, it may struggle, similar to Ragnarok BUT that Reload Time of 22 seconds is what scares me as the Ragnarok is 30 seconds but the Silver Bonus makes Ragnarok very relevant along with Mobility.

 

Eradicator, I Fully agree about this one. Makes Caernarvon and Paladin obsolete. T-32A has that 10% Free XP Bonus which saves the vehicle but other than that, it makes T32-A Obsolete, For T32-A to be relevant, it should have a faster reload OR the Top T32 Turret but then it makes the Tech Tree Equivalent obsolete. I'm always a believer that Premiums should be weaker than Tech Tree Tanks. Defintely OP.

 

Earthshaker, Not OP at all, The HESH similar to the Charioteer will be fantastic, 236 Base Pen is fine. Just like the Charioteer, i would only load AP and Premium HESH, No HE, you'll do yourself a disservice, or you can do a Deathstar and load Full Premium HESH. Low Pen and Higher Reload means the Tank is Balanced and i'm fine entering the game (Don't shoot my UDES 03 or Grille 15 please :unsure:)

 

Two out of three are fine in my opinion. The Eradicator however shouldn't enter the game in it's current state and should have at least a 25 second reload, or even upped to 30 seconds. In it's current state, i would have given it the Stock Caernarvon Turret to be like the T32-A Prototype.

 

Seems about accurate to me. The T-28 is still just a T-28, and we already have a idiot proof alpha medium in tier 8 and that one got OP armor to match. The real issue is the t-32 problem the Eradicator is creating.

View Postspuddud987654321, on 18 December 2019 - 08:13 AM, said:

Hehe shinny new auto loaders of course. Maybe it's just me not stressing because I have disposable income this time of year. Sorry to pee in everybodies Cheerios.

 

In concept it's not wrong. But you have to remember this is a live service game. Everything has an impact on the full future of the game not just the 3 year cycle to the next new edition release.

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Thanks looks like im buying the  T32a prototype.........lol.................




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