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FBPrime #1 Posted 23 December 2019 - 01:41 PM

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Object 268 Version 4 (X)

  • Reload time:  17  17.7
  • DPM:  2,294  2,203
  • Dispersion movement/traverse/turret:  .16/.16/.12  .18/.18 /.12
  • Speed limit:  50/18 → 26/8
  • Horsepower: 1350 → 850
  • Power to weight:  18.11 → 11.40
  • Turret Traverse:  28 → 26

 

SU-130 PM (VIII)

  • Reload time:  13.6  13.9
  • DPM:  2,294  2,245
  • Dispersion:  0.35 → 0.37
  • Turret Traverse:  22 → 18
  • Hull Traverse:  36 → 32
  • Gun Elevation:  37 → 29

 

Object 907 (X)

  • Reload time:  6.5  8.4
  • DPM:  2,954  2,286
  • Aim time:  2 → 2.1
  • Hitpoints:  2,000 → 1,900
  • Turret Traverse:  48 → 38

 

K-91 (X)

  • Reload time:  6.3  7.9
  • DPM:  3,048  2,430
  • Aim time:  1.7  1.9
  • Dispersion movement/traverse/turret:  .14/.10/.10  .14/.14 /.10
  • Concealment (Still, Moving, Firing):  31.5%, 23.6%, 19.8% → 26%, 19.5%, 19.8%

 

Object 430U (X)

  • Reload time:  10.2  11.7
  • DPM:  2,588  2,256
  • Dispersion movement/traverse/turret:  .12/.12/.10  .16/.16 /.12
  • Speed limit:  50/18 → 48/18
  • Hull Traverse:  52 → 46
  • Turret Traverse:  38 → 36
  • Concealment (Still, Moving, Firing):  30.6%, 22.9%, 18% → 29.3%, 22%, 18%

 

Object 260 (X)

  • Reload time:  11  12.1
  • DPM:  2,400  2,182
  • Dispersion movement/traverse/turret:  .15/.15/.06  .18/.18 /.08
  • Dispersion:  0.35 → 0.37
  • Hull Traverse:  28 → 26
  • Turret Roof:  55 mm → 30 mm

 

Object 277 (X)

  • Dispersion movement/traverse/turret:  .16/.16/.08  .19/.19 /.08
  • Horsepower: 950 → 895
  • Power to weight:  17.393 → 16.386
  • 130 mm M-65
    • AP velocity: 1,030 → 930
    • HEAT velocity: 1,030 → 930

  

Object 705A (X)

  • Speed limit:  40/15 → 38/12
  • Horsepower: 1500 → 1300
  • Power to weight:  15.07 → 13.06
  • Hull traverse:  24 → 22
  • Turret Traverse:  28 → 20

 

Object 705 (IX)

  • Hitpoints:  2,000  1,900
  • Dispersion movement/traverse/turret:  .18/.18/.10 → .18/.18 /.16
  • Turret Traverse:  26 → 22
  • 130 mm S-70
    • Reload time:  14.7  15.2
    • DPM:  2,000  1,943
    • Aim time:  3 → 3.2
  • 122 mm BL-13-1 A
    • Reload time:  11.2  13.4
    • DPM:  2,200  2,129
    • Aim time:  3 → 3.2
    • APCR velocity: 1,259 → 930
    • HEAT velocity: 900 → 930
    • HE velocity: 700 → 930

 

Object 257 (IX)

  • Speed limit:  50/15 → 45/15
  • Hull traverse:  40 → 35
  • Turret Traverse:  26 → 24
  • 122 mm BL-13-1 A
    • APCR velocity: 1,259 → 930
    • HEAT velocity: 900 → 930
    • HE velocity: 700 → 930

 

IS-M (VIII)

  • Reload time:  11.7  12
  • DPM:  2,000  1,950
  • Aim time:  3  3.2
  • Dispersion movement/traverse/turret:  .18/.18/.08  .18/.18 /.10
  • Turret Traverse:  32 → 26

 

LT-432 (VIII)

  • Reload time:  5.2  6
  • DPM:  2,077  1,800
  • Dispersion movement/traverse/turret:  .10/.10/.08  .12/.12 /.08
  • Speed limit:  70/23 → 65/20
  • Horsepower: 900 → 800
  • Power to weight:  33.77 → 30.02
  • Turret Traverse:  48 → 45

 

 

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AMX M4 mle. 54 (X)

  • Hull Traverse:  32 → 28
  • 130 mm/45 Model 1935
    • Reload time:  15.8  16.9
    • DPM:  2,127  1,988
    • Aim time:  2.2  2.3
    • Dispersion:  0.35  0.37
  • ​120 mm D. 1203 B
    • Dispersion:  0.33  0.35

 

AMX M4 mle. 51 (IX)

  • Hull Traverse:  28 → 24
  • Turret Traverse:  28 → 22
  • 127 mm/54 Model 1948
    • Reload time:  13.3  16.1
    • DPM:  2,120  1,752
    • Dispersion:  0.36  0.37
  • 120 mm D. 1203 A
    • Reload time:  11.2  13.4
    • DPM:  2,143  1,791
    • Dispersion:  0.34  0.35

 

AMX 65 t (VIII)

  • Turret Traverse:  26 → 24
  • 100 mm SA47
    • Reload time:  9.3  9.5
    • DPM:  1,935  1,895

 

ELC EVEN 90 (VIII)

  • Turret Traverse:  46 → 44

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FBPrime #2 Posted 23 December 2019 - 01:42 PM

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60TP (X)

  • Reload time:  19.5  21.6
  • DPM:  2,308  2,083
  • Dispersion:  0.38  0.39
  • Turret Traverse:  24 → 20

 

50TP (IX)

  • Reload time:  16  18.7
  • DPM:  2,100  1,797
  • Aim time:  3  3.2
  • Turret Traverse:  26 → 20

 

53TP (VIII)

  • Reload time:  12.7  14.6
  • DPM:  1,984  1,726
  • Aim time:  2.7  3
  • Dispersion movement/traverse/turret:  .18/.18/.10  .23/.23 /.10
  • Turret Traverse:  30 → 26
  • View range:  370 → 350

 

50TP prototyp (VIII)

  • Reload time:  14.2  15.7
  • DPM:  1,859  1,682
  • Aim time:  3  3.2
  • Dispersion:  0.40  0.44
  • Hull Traverse:  38 → 28
  • View range:  380 → 370

 

45TP (VII)

  • Reload time:  11  11.3
  • DPM:  1,745  1,699
  • Aim time:  2.7  3
  • Dispersion movement/traverse/turret:  .21/.21/.16  .24/.24 /.16

 

Pudel (VI)

  • Hitpoints:  840  750

 

 

 

Italy

 

Progetto M40 mod. 65 (X)

  • Reload:  49.8 → 64
  • Per-shell reload:  | 9.6 | 11.5 | 13.4 | 15.3 |  | 13 | 15 | 17 | 19 |
  • DPM:  | 2250 | 1878 | 1612 | 1412 |  | 1661 | 1440 | 1270 | 1137 |
  • Terrain Resistance:  0.8 / 0.9 / 1.8  0.9 / 1.1 / 1.6

 

Prototipo Standard B (IX)

  • Reload:  37.4 → 53.1
  • Per-shell reload:  | 10.5 | 12.5 | 14.4 |  | 15.7 | 17.7 | 19.7 |
  • DPM:  | 2057 | 1728 | 1500 |  | 1376 | 1220 | 1096 |
  • Hull traverse:  54  44

 

P.44 Pantera (VIII)

  • Reload:  27.8 → 36.8
  • Per-shell reload: | 7.7 | 9.6 | 10.5 |  | 10.6 | 12.6 | 13.6 |
  • DPM:  | 1870 | 1500 | 1371 |  | 1358 | 1143 | 1058 |
  • Power to weight:  22.44  16.51
  • Hull traverse:  54  46

 

Progetto M35 mod. 46 (VIII)

  • Reload:  27.8 → 36.8
  • Per-shell reload:  | 7.7 | 8.6 | 11.5 |  | 10.6 | 11.6 | 14.6 |
  • DPM:  | 1870 | 1674 | 1252 |  | 1358 | 1241 | 986 |

 

P.43 ter (VII)

  • Reload:  8 → 9
  • DPM:  1,800  1,600
  • Hull traverse:  44  40

 

P.43 bis (VI)

  • Reload:  7.5 → 8.2
  • DPM:  1,920  1,757

 

P.43 (V)

  • Reload:  4.1 → 4.5
  • DPM: 1,610  1,466
  • Hull traverse:  48 → 42

 

P26/40 (IV)

  • Reload:  4.2 → 4.7
  • DPM:  1,571 → 1,404
  • Hull traverse:  46 → 42

 

M15/42 (III)

  • Hull traverse:  42  38

 

M14/41 (II)

  • Reload:  2.6 → 2.85
  • DPM:  1,154 → 1,053

 

 

 

UK

 

FV217 Badger (X)

  • Reload time:  8.5  9.7
  • DPM:  3,388  2,969

 

Excalibur (VI)

  • Aim time:  1.8 → 1.9
  • Dispersion movement/traverse/turret:  .22/.22/.10  .22/.22 /.12

 

Centurion Mk. 5/1 RAAC (VIII)

  • Dispersion movement/traverse/turret:  .18/.18/.14  .21/.21 /.16
  • Turret Traverse:  36 → 34
  • Hull Traverse:  36 → 30

 

Chimera (VIII)

  • Aim time:  2.5 → 2.9
  • Dispersion movement/traverse/turret:  .20/.20/.12  .23/.23 /.18
  • Dispersion:  0.36 → 0.42
  • Hull Traverse:  30 → 28
  • Turret Traverse:  26 → 24
  • AP Penetration:  218 → 202
  • AP velocity: 950 → 732
  • APCR velocity: 1,100 → 914

 

Caernarvon Action X (VIII)

  • Hull Traverse:  28 → 26
  • Turret Traverse:  36 → 32

 

 

 

Germany

 

Kanonenjagdpanzer 105 (VIII)

  • Aim time:  1.8 → 2.3
  • Dispersion movement/traverse/turret:  .24/.24/.14 → .24/.24 /.16
  • Dispersion:  0.32 → 0.34

 

HWK 30 (VIII)

  • Reload:  7.2 → 7.4
  • DPM:  2,000 → 1946

 

 

 

Sweden

 

Strv 81 (VIII)

  • Horsepower: 900 → 650
  • Power to weight:  17.84 → 12.88

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DwarfOnDrugs #3 Posted 23 December 2019 - 02:02 PM

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may as well add the strv to the list as well. was nerfed for no reason

 


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Positive: AMX 13 57 got an Ammo Count Buff

Positive: M60 got Buffed



Vampire_Izumi #5 Posted 23 December 2019 - 02:12 PM

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did any US tanks get nerfed on port?

Edited by Vampire_Izumi, 23 December 2019 - 02:13 PM.

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Chr15py #6 Posted 23 December 2019 - 02:16 PM

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Sorry....am being a little thick here as still not recovered from works Christmas party :) . By "Nerfed at Port" you mean when brought into the game right?

 

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HighSpyker #7 Posted 23 December 2019 - 02:24 PM

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That's a serious nerf on the 268 v4.  The enormous speed loss means it won't play like the same tank.

 

I think you put the horsepower on the wrong side for the 432.



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They claim to be a different game yet they just copy paste tank models and nerf stats, why don't they buff the tanks underperforming on PC, and left the others as they are now, or make them unique, honestly you could just get 5A,Patton and Sconq and you have barely no reason to get the other tanks if you only play public matches, it's like there's no motivation or stimulation to get new tanks, why to develop 50 tanks when only 3 are worth it, make all tanks unique and OP so people need to play more in order to get tanks that are a pleasure to play not a pain.

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Some were deserved, some were not.

Some are still absurdly strong even with the nerfs.

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Italian line still needs it nerfs removed, still a garbage line. 

3 Marked Tanks (92) (Bold = 100%)

 


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Those Italian nerfs though ...


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Those $100 machines and chisels need to be sold. Must incentivize the players somehow. 

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View PostHighSpyker, on 23 December 2019 - 09:24 AM, said:

That's a serious nerf on the 268 v4.  The enormous speed loss means it won't play like the same tank.

 

I think you put the horsepower on the wrong side for the 432.

 

Fixed it

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Don't forget that they also nerfed the 113, unnerfed the 113, then buffed the 113. They have no idea what they are doing.

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View PostTeffisk, on 23 December 2019 - 11:14 AM, said:

Don't forget that they also nerfed the 113, unnerfed the 113, then buffed the 113. They have no idea what they are doing.

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Wow i was scared for a minute we were bad players and got more naughty balancing update :teethhappy:
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But the spreadsheet!

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Can you provide where these numbers are official?

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View PostbuyaPepsi, on 23 December 2019 - 05:24 PM, said:

Can you provide where these numbers are official?

 


Look at the console stats for the vehicles, then look at the PC stats for the vehicles..?

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