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HawkZ71 #21 Posted 23 December 2019 - 05:33 PM

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View PostMASHMAN 90, on 23 December 2019 - 08:09 AM, said:

Positive: AMX 13 57 got an Ammo Count Buff

Positive: M60 got Buffed

 

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ToxicBullbog #22 Posted 23 December 2019 - 05:37 PM

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They might as well not add actual new content and just release reskinned premiums with better stats, think of the profit compared to effort.

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FBPrime #23 Posted 23 December 2019 - 05:41 PM

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View PostbuyaPepsi, on 23 December 2019 - 12:24 PM, said:

Can you provide where these numbers are official?

 

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Joco3000 #24 Posted 23 December 2019 - 06:18 PM

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View PostFBPrime, on 23 December 2019 - 05:41 PM, said:

 

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Sadly, I'd still trust that over the spreadsheet that WG uses.

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AJH387 #25 Posted 23 December 2019 - 06:38 PM

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The Italian nerfs are annoying. I am working that line so slowly because it is pretty annoying (and I don't skip packages.) 

 

Also, I really want to buy the 907 since it is on discount (is it still on discount or was that just over the weekend?) but the dmp nerf is brutal. I still might but that seems like a major change from the PC tank (I get it that is is supposedly OP on PC, but still.)


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GloryAndTrash #26 Posted 23 December 2019 - 06:53 PM

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View PostVampire_Izumi, on 23 December 2019 - 04:12 PM, said:

did any US tanks get nerfed on port?

Light tank t92 was buffed :-)



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Plus nerfed:
amx13-90, 105, b-c 25t
Wz-132-1



SlashingYew172 #28 Posted 23 December 2019 - 07:06 PM

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Polish and Italian nerfs are [edited]!
Russian were long overdue.

AnonymousHobo69 #29 Posted 23 December 2019 - 07:21 PM

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View PostGloryAndTrash, on 23 December 2019 - 12:55 PM, said:

Plus nerfed:
amx13-90, 105, b-c 25t
Wz-132-1
 
This thread is purely about nerfing after being ported over, not nerfs in general. Otherwise there would be many more (non us ;) ) nerfs listed.

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Were the Italians so dominant on PC the whole line needed a nerfing before bringing them here?

 

And yet we get the Machine the way it is. :facepalm:


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Connor McJesus #31 Posted 23 December 2019 - 07:40 PM

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We ArEn'T Pc We ArE DiFfErEnt

As they Look at the Win rate on PC and then make changes based on PC.

Tanks like the chisel and machine are OP because WG doesnt have W/R stats to steal from PC

 

 


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AnonymousHobo69 #32 Posted 23 December 2019 - 07:40 PM

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View PostPit Friend, on 23 December 2019 - 01:32 PM, said:

Were the Italians so dominant on PC the whole line needed a nerfing before bringing them here?

 

And yet we get the Machine the way it is. :facepalm:

 

They weren't. Neither were the french heavies, the polish line, and so on. Yet, WGW still nerfed them because of their performance at launch, though we're a different game :)

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The real problem isn't the nerfs, it's the lack of balancing of existing tanks to the levels of the nerfed tanks. The SConq, M48, E4, and 5a are all at PC levels (better in the case of the E4 lol). WG uses PC as a starting point along with the winrate of the initial tier VIII prem released before the line to balance it. Eventually, they will probably adjust it correctly, but they take far to long to do so. Minor monthly balance tweaks would be beneficial (with a twice a year limit per individual tank) so that the game feels fresher and everything approaches approximately the same level at a bit of a quicker pace

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D1RT3AGG #34 Posted 23 December 2019 - 10:24 PM

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CB has no real clue what they're doing. Barely any of them actually play their own game, every time we see a livestream you can tell they are out to lunch as far as game knowledge.

The only thing they know how to do is introduce their broken AF Frankentanks and nerf the living horse puckey of the tank lines were all looking forward to...That is until CB gets their "spreadsheet" smeared all over the new lines.



Red Dough Boy #35 Posted 23 December 2019 - 11:22 PM

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The only nerf I agree with was to the Obj. 268 V 4, that much armor and speed on a tier X TD is pretty OP and would make other tier X's seem lacking in comparison. I don't really agree with nerfing mediums that need finesse though, especially the Italians. I suppose we do have the advantage of PC being a test bed for us, the tanks that see nerfs are considered OP on there and get slightly reduced stats as a result. There is a duality to premiums though, they should be worth the price paid for them but not significantly better to create a pay to win issue. The thing I don't get is why they release tanks with worse stats, but sell things like the Iron Rain and Minuteman while keeping something like the Type 59 so far down with how it's been hit by nerfs and power creep. 

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View Postnatedaishmaster, on 23 December 2019 - 12:54 PM, said:

The real problem isn't the nerfs, it's the lack of balancing of existing tanks to the levels of the nerfed tanks. The SConq, M48, E4, and 5a are all at PC levels (better in the case of the E4 lol). WG uses PC as a starting point along with the winrate of the initial tier VIII prem released before the line to balance it. Eventually, they will probably adjust it correctly, but they take far to long to do so. Minor monthly balance tweaks would be beneficial (with a twice a year limit per individual tank) so that the game feels fresher and everything approaches approximately the same level at a bit of a quicker pace

 

Eventually......

 

I'm confused. They never balanced the 183. When does this eventually happen? At the 9 year mark or something?


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TVP 50/51 unsure why that got balanced it only had its gun going for it , its armor is nothing special

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A bunch of nerfs that aren’t warranted.

It’s obvious that WGCB have no clue what they are doing. Tank Destroyers like the 183, E4 and Waffle go untouched while many other tanks become unplayable.

 

WGCB do love to claim that “we are not PC” but then use PC stats as a means to justify downgrading PC ports.   This absolutely baffles me considering PC is entirely a different environment.

 

Wouldn’t it make sense to port them over as is and see how they play on console first?.   Ugh.



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View PostRed Dough Boy, on 23 December 2019 - 06:22 PM, said:

I suppose we do have the advantage of PC being a test bed for us, the tanks that see nerfs are considered OP on there and get slightly reduced stats as a result.  

 

 Many of the tanks we have received with "balanced for console" stats are considered mediocre if not out right bad on PC. The Italians and Polish heavy lines are exemplary of that. I agree with you on the mediums, they may have needed some tweaks but 2 class wide nerfs was too much and then still nerf new ones even further. 

 

 



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Aren’t the fanboys past due for the “bring them in UP and WG will buff them later” post?





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