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badgerdude101 #1 Posted 14 January 2020 - 11:09 AM

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New Warchests are up, but I noticed a change to the wording of the refund policy to include **bundle** and **offer** tanks.

 

https://console.worl.../en/war-chests/

 

Previously I believe that if a tank was in a bundle or on DOTW you would get the full gold, but if it was a TT sale (Like the -30% over Christmas/BF) you would get the cheaper value refunded, which makes perfect sense to me

 

"If you receive a Premium tank you already own, you will receive its Gold value fully refunded to your World of Tanks: Mercenaries account. If the tank you get is on offer, **in a bundle** or similar, you will receive its offer’s price instead.

For example: If you already have a Motherland, receive it again in a War Chest, AND there is a 20% discount on the Motherland at the time, then you will receive its gold value minus 20%."

 

So what happens if it is in a mega bundle with 10 other tanks that you do not own? From this wording you would get the discounted value?


Anyway, here are the tanks:

 

The following Premium tanks can be found in Commander’s War Chests:

 

* Pz. Kpfw. T 15
* T-29
* MTLS-1G14
* Sexton I (USA)
* M22 Locust
* FCM 36 PaK 40
* Vanquisher Sentinel AC I
* Valentine II
* Pz. Kpfw. B2 740 (f)
* Pz. Kpfw. III Ausf. K
* TOG II*
* Škoda T 40
* FV201 (A45)
* Atomic Centurion
* FCM 50 t Liberté


The following Premium tanks are potential contents in General’s War Chests:

* Pz. Kpfw. IV Hydrostat
* The Hidden StuG III
* SU-85I
* Defiance Matilda
* Žižka Škoda T 40
* HMH T-34-85M
* Wojtek Pz.Kpfw. V Ausf. G
* Wojtek & Daniel Sokół Crew
* Cromwell B
* Kaiju O-I
* Kyodaina Kaibutsu Crew
* Rover-237
* Cromwell Knight
* T-VI-100
* M46 Patton KR
* Beach Party
* Battalion 23 Crew
* Smooth Ride Skill
* Eagle Eye Skill
* WZ-111


The following Premium tanks are potential contents in Hero’s War Chests:

* Dragon Type 62
* Tiger I Hammer
* Slayer SU-152
* HMH AMX 13 57
* Jackal M4A4 FL10
* leKpz M 41 90 mm
* 59-Patton
* LT-432
* KV-5
* M6A2E1
* HMH Chrysler K
* Motherland
* Rheinmetall Skorpion
* Iron Rain Rhm.-Borsig Waffenträger
* Fatherland IS-3A

 



MASHMAN 90 #2 Posted 14 January 2020 - 11:15 AM

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If a Tank is on Sale and you get it from a Chest, you'll get Discounted Gold. If it's not on Sale then you'll get full Gold returns from a Chest. It's correct. That's why a lot of us waited until January 7th before opening Tanksmas Chest.

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View PostMASHMAN 90, on 14 January 2020 - 11:15 AM, said:

If a Tank is on Sale and you get it from a Chest, you'll get Discounted Gold. If it's not on Sale then you'll get full Gold returns from a Chest. It's correct. That's why a lot of us waited until January 7th before opening Tanksmas Chest.

 

Hi Mashman.

 

I know that is the case with tank sales that affect the price shown in the TT, such as the recent -30%.

 

What I am referring to is this exact set of circumstances:

  • Player Only Owns 1 Premium Tank - The Minuteman T29
  • Minuteman is at full price in the TT @ 6,800G
  • Minuteman is on offer at -60% in the '4 of a kind' Bundle at -60%
  • Player opens a warchest ad wins the Minuteman T29 (Hooray!)
     

Now, from what I understand, previously the player would be refunded the 6,800G (The tank's 'stated price';)
 

However, this change suggests that the player would be refunded the -60% value, as the tank is in a bundle, irrespective of the fact that the player does not own the other constituent parts of the bundle.
 

Does that make sense?
 

If that is how it has always been, fair enough, just seems like it will be a bit screwy when there are mega nation bundles coming out.



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Well, including bundle discounts  in the reduced gold refund scheme means my war chest buying days are over.

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View Postbadgerdude101, on 14 January 2020 - 11:29 AM, said:

 

Hi Mashman.

 

I know that is the case with tank sales that affect the price shown in the TT, such as the recent -30%.

 

What I am referring to is this exact set of circumstances:

  • Player Only Owns 1 Premium Tank - The Minuteman T29
  • Minuteman is at full price in the TT @ 6,800G
  • Minuteman is on offer at -60% in the '4 of a kind' Bundle at -60%
  • Player opens a warchest ad wins the Minuteman T29 (Hooray!)
     

Now, from what I understand, previously the player would be refunded the 6,800G (The tank's 'stated price';)
 

However, this change suggests that the player would be refunded the -60% value, as the tank is in a bundle, irrespective of the fact that the player does not own the other constituent parts of the bundle.
 

Does that make sense?
 

If that is how it has always been, fair enough, just seems like it will be a bit screwy when there are mega nation bundles coming out.

 

Ah right, i'm not sure about that one :)

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View PostMASHMAN 90, on 14 January 2020 - 12:44 PM, said:

 

Ah right, i'm not sure about that one :)

 

To make it interesting :

 

What if the tank from the warcheast is also up for the personal offers ?

 

BUT the player who opened the Warchest has NOT received that personal offer (yet) ?

 

What about that ?



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View PostABAOUIA, on 14 January 2020 - 11:58 AM, said:

 

To make it interesting :

 

What if the tank from the warcheast is also up for the personal offers ?

 

BUT the player who opened the Warchest has NOT received that personal offer (yet) ?

 

What about that ?

 

Only thing i know about is the Premium TT Sale. Everything else is a mystery for me but Max may comment later (Not saying he will) :)

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I wouldn't know the answer, but it makes sense not to open any chests during premium TT discounts (or other discounts) on tanks which are represented in your garage and you expect a gold refund in case you get them. Just wait until discount expires and then open your chests.

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My understanding is that if you get a tank in a chest that is discounted for any reason, dotw, personal offer, premium TT or in a bundle that you always get the discounted gold price in return. I believe this is how it's always been.

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View PostMaxAmmo10562, on 14 January 2020 - 09:29 AM, said:

My understanding is that if you get a tank in a chest that is discounted for any reason, dotw, personal offer, premium TT or in a bundle that you always get the discounted gold price in return. I believe this is how it's always been.

 

We always got the full gold price before.  The discounted gold rate is relatively new.  Don't know when it started but I would guess around BF or shortly after.



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Any update on this?

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View Postbadgerdude101, on 14 January 2020 - 05:29 AM, said:

 

Hi Mashman.

 

I know that is the case with tank sales that affect the price shown in the TT, such as the recent -30%.

 

What I am referring to is this exact set of circumstances:

  • Player Only Owns 1 Premium Tank - The Minuteman T29
  • Minuteman is at full price in the TT @ 6,800G
  • Minuteman is on offer at -60% in the '4 of a kind' Bundle at -60%
  • Player opens a warchest ad wins the Minuteman T29 (Hooray!)
     

Now, from what I understand, previously the player would be refunded the 6,800G (The tank's 'stated price';)
 

However, this change suggests that the player would be refunded the -60% value, as the tank is in a bundle, irrespective of the fact that the player does not own the other constituent parts of the bundle.
 

Does that make sense?
 

If that is how it has always been, fair enough, just seems like it will be a bit screwy when there are mega nation bundles coming out.

 

Let me check back to make sure my info is correct and I shall come back with a reply :)

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View PostGEToff MyLawn52, on 14 January 2020 - 02:06 PM, said:

 

We always got the full gold price before.  The discounted gold rate is relatively new.  Don't know when it started but I would guess around BF or shortly after.

 

Yeah it was at least in effect during the FallBravo games. I won a super sherman and got gold equivalent to the 30% refund price. Still not complaining but it would have been nice to get it at full value

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To throw a monkey wrench into the works, what happens if the same tank is at discount in multiple places - say the premium tree, as well as in a tank bundle (or two different ones)?

 

 



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View PostRaiBOT01, on 16 January 2020 - 12:37 AM, said:

 

Let me check back to make sure my info is correct and I shall come back with a reply :)

 

Please check my question also ?



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they will confirm this. 30% on all premium tanks was active over the holidays and every war chest premium tank was discounted with 30% less gold back too. if they now say it’s an mistake, the support will be get hyped

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What with the weird selection of tanks in the Hero Chest and this (possible) change to refund price to encompass bundles, it's like WG are trying to ensure people don't buy any chests. 

 

Good for them, I guess, taking a positive stance against the murkiness of loot boxes :trollface::P



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View PostABAOUIA, on 14 January 2020 - 05:58 AM, said:

 

To make it interesting :

 

What if the tank from the warcheast is also up for the personal offers ?

 

BUT the player who opened the Warchest has NOT received that personal offer (yet) ?

 

What about that ?

 

If you own the tank you won't receive the personal offer. So it's not available at the discounted price.

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View Postx_BAlN_x, on 16 January 2020 - 05:18 PM, said:

 

If you own the tank you won't receive the personal offer. So it's not available at the discounted price.

 

LOL

 

Simply logical !

 

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We have always received the discounted gold value if the duplicate tank was on sale in the store....I don't think anything changed. That is why you don't open chests when there are any large sales ongoing, you will lose gold. 




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