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ArKenemyxX #1 Posted 15 January 2020 - 01:31 AM

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This thing is pretty bad tier for tier and it see's tier 10. There's a reason the Jagdtiger8.8 has pmm. Better off playing that. Just play the JpantherII stock and get an idea for what this is like. Plus WG's servers are acting up so I'm off to bigger and better things. Reds had 3 more tier 8s and it gave us a tier 6 [edited]. GG WG




Vampire_Izumi #2 Posted 15 January 2020 - 01:36 AM

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holy crap that tank is awful... well i almost have mine to try. may be a tank where full premium ammo is required to offset everything bad about the tank.

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Haukkis #3 Posted 15 January 2020 - 02:30 AM

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I've played few games with it, penetration is horrible but otherwise it seems to be quite fun vehicle to play. PMM or penetration buff would be nice though. I don't know how but I've managed to pen Object 279e's upper plate with standard round(!)... guess that was penetration max roll and perfect angle for penetrating shot... 

Vampire_Izumi #4 Posted 15 January 2020 - 02:33 AM

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i think 230/277 pen would work.

 

i have to agree after playing it the pen is the major awful thing about it. that and Shell Velocity 


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Schiavoser #5 Posted 15 January 2020 - 02:48 AM

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I agree it's not garbage, exactly, but it is seriously underwhelming. And they announced it so many weeks ago adding to the disappointment.

 

Instead of making it Tier VII (because it would probably be OP), make the traverse speed elite and the reverse speed, too. It is way too sluggish for a paper thin TD. Most other Tier VIII TDs can either out-maneuver or out-muscle it. Kind of worthless as it is. Buff it!



ArKenemyxX #6 Posted 15 January 2020 - 04:16 AM

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I can make it work most of the time with standard pen but when I was the only tier 8 in a tier 10 game, 22 shots fired 2 pens. I did ALOT of tracking and no damage. A TD that can not do damage to tanks 2 tiers higher is laughable. I just have a weakness for Panthers and Tigers. It's funny how WG made them so pathetic in game lol


PANDoGGA #7 Posted 15 January 2020 - 05:38 AM

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View PostHaukkis, on 15 January 2020 - 03:30 AM, said:

I've played few games with it, penetration is horrible but otherwise it seems to be quite fun vehicle to play. PMM or penetration buff would be nice though. I don't know how but I've managed to pen Object 279e's upper plate with standard round(!)... guess that was penetration max roll and perfect angle for penetrating shot... 

 

Penetration buff? ISU-130 disagrees.

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Vampire_Izumi #8 Posted 15 January 2020 - 05:43 AM

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View PostPANDoGGA, on 15 January 2020 - 02:38 PM, said:

 

Penetration buff? ISU-130 disagrees.

 

isu-130 also can hit for over 600 and reloads fast

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PANDoGGA #9 Posted 15 January 2020 - 08:34 AM

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View PostVampire_Izumi, on 15 January 2020 - 06:43 AM, said:

 

isu-130 also can hit for over 600 and reloads fast

 

Yes, when you fire HE. Reload is 10,3s.

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Vampire_Izumi #10 Posted 15 January 2020 - 08:39 AM

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View PostPANDoGGA, on 15 January 2020 - 05:34 PM, said:

 

Yes, when you fire HE. Reload is 10,3s.

 

i fired standard and mostly premium in that thing when i had it and did fine. could easily hit for 600 damage a shot and it made silver even when firing premium.

i even 2 marked it.

 

 

also, in this tank i have a Halonen's medal.

" awarded for destroying three or more enemy tanks or tank destroyers with a tank destroyer.

the targets must be atleast 2 tiers higher than the player's vehicle."


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wake_the_move #11 Posted 15 January 2020 - 10:38 AM

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Demote it back to Tier 7, reduce the rof to between 8,5 and 9, revert gun handling and traverse speed back to original values. Simple!

M4ntiX #12 Posted 15 January 2020 - 12:57 PM

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View PostPANDoGGA, on 15 January 2020 - 05:38 AM, said:

 

Penetration buff? ISU-130 disagrees.

 

No, it really does not disagree. ISU-130 is equally useless when playing tier X's. The difference is, it can spam HE and do decent splash damage. Panzerknockers can't.

 

I got the tank yesterday and I don't think I will play it at all. I just don't see the appeal. Try-harding and struggling in Premium tanks to make them work? No thanks, I still have the Italian tech tree to complete if I need frustration.


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I was convinced that I would hate it by reading all the hate messages against this tank on the forum, but on the contrary I like it. It’s far from being my best tank but it’s still fun.


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ArKenemyxX #14 Posted 15 January 2020 - 05:14 PM

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View PostSightlessRogue0, on 15 January 2020 - 07:25 AM, said:

I was convinced that I would hate it by reading all the hate messages against this tank on the forum, but on the contrary I like it. It’s far from being my best tank but it’s still fun.

 

It's a fun tank, in tier8


Haukkis #15 Posted 15 January 2020 - 08:17 PM

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View PostVampire_Izumi, on 15 January 2020 - 03:33 AM, said:

i think 230/277 pen would work.

 

i have to agree after playing it the pen is the major awful thing about it. that and Shell Velocity 

More like 246/295



Haukkis #16 Posted 15 January 2020 - 08:20 PM

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View PostPANDoGGA, on 15 January 2020 - 06:38 AM, said:

 

Penetration buff? ISU-130 disagrees.

 

ISU-130 also need huge buff for it's penetration. It's currently the worst tier 8 premium tank in the game imo, even when top tier it's can't pen some tier 8 vehicles.

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It's hard to balance a tier 8 tank to be able to compete at tier 10 and yet not overwhelm tier 6

I think very few tier 8s qualify as such

+1/-1 for the win






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