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Albapfalzd3 #1 Posted 16 January 2020 - 02:29 PM

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I see that there is the Survivor OP, Survive a winning battle. Great, as if winning a battle isn't hard enough now days but now you have to survive it as well. I thought that this would be another time when I don't complete all the daily OPs yet some how I had managed to survive 7 matches in a row yesterday winning 6 of them (lost on a Cap while still plenty of tanks in the match). I cannot tell you when the last time that has happened because I don't think it ever has. Some strange OPs going on right now. 

 

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MilitaryGoose05 #2 Posted 16 January 2020 - 02:56 PM

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This is a truly terrible op. The first and last time I completed it I needed to play for about 5 hours, loads of battles. It's absolutely absurd.

 

If I see it on my op list for the day, I'm just giving up. No way is this one realistically doable. Forget about it.

 

It also encourages just the worst gameplay.

Wargaming have lost their minds on this one. If there was any chance at all of them listening to their player base I'd beg them to remove it from the rotation.



psmobius1 #3 Posted 16 January 2020 - 05:55 PM

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Yeah, this OP isn't all that great. When I have to complete it, I fall back on my more preferred premium tanks that can take a beating and keep on ticking. I can't remember if this one allows tier III but you can always drop back to the good old sexy sam arty....you have a very good chance of winning and surviving a match. 

SkillfulTurtl3 #4 Posted 16 January 2020 - 05:58 PM

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I was very lucky when I got this one.... my win rate was over 20% better than normal and I made sure I did not chase the last few kills when on low health with the team winning easily... think I got it in 8 battles.

Had the kill 5 TDs on the same day, and that was more tricky and took longer as several battles had zero TDs on the Reds.

Luck is certainly playing a big part in completing these ops, and so far it has been on my side.



bigpikle #5 Posted 16 January 2020 - 06:06 PM

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Pick a suitable tank. When I get this op I will go with either TD or Arty. Can still be effective even if not in a ‘first to die’ position

Pit Friend #6 Posted 16 January 2020 - 06:16 PM

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Take your Survival Rate and multiply it by your Win Rate. This is the chance you’ll get this Op in a game without drastically changing the way you play.  So I have a roughly 15% chance to get the Op every game. I really don’t like those odds. :(

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RELIC x #7 Posted 16 January 2020 - 07:28 PM

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View PostPit Friend, on 16 January 2020 - 11:16 AM, said:

Take your Survival Rate and multiply it by your Win Rate. This is the chance you’ll get this Op in a game without drastically changing the way you play.  So I have a roughly 15% chance to get the Op every game. I really don’t like those odds. :(

 

I think that is too pessimistic a way to look at it.  I die in pretty much 95% of my losses.  I'd guess that isn't unusual.  That means I survive many more of my victories, well north of 50%.  I think surviving is actually a good bit of winning. 

 

Assuming a 95% death rate in losses, I calculate that you survive ~49% of your wins.   So, I'd say you have more like a 25% chance to complete that op every game.

 

As mentioned earlier, take a high survival tank, like TD or Arty,



Rusted Rails #8 Posted 16 January 2020 - 07:47 PM

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Playing while in a trance works for me:bajan:

SkillfulTurtl3 #9 Posted 16 January 2020 - 08:11 PM

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Just noticed that the Kill TD op has been removed....that should improve my survival rate when I play TDs !

 



SPUK4U #10 Posted 16 January 2020 - 08:23 PM

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Survival in a winning battle should not be a too hard to do.  Majority of the survival happens in victory so if team wins it's about 3 out of 10 victories that player survives in normal game play.  If there is Ops to complete it just means that player has to save some hit points to the end so that change to survive increases.  Being aggressive with tank that is one-shot kill is really not a good way to survive, it's better to fall back and revert to sniper, at least that way gun stays in the game and change to win and survive increases.

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bigpikle #11 Posted 16 January 2020 - 10:28 PM

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View PostPit Friend, on 16 January 2020 - 06:16 PM, said:

Take your Survival Rate and multiply it by your Win Rate. This is the chance you’ll get this Op in a game without drastically changing the way you play.  So I have a roughly 15% chance to get the Op every game. I really don’t like those odds. :(

 

and repeat it 5 times. When I get that op (random) I switch to arty or sniper TD. Worked

well for me



ArcticRaider #12 Posted 16 January 2020 - 10:45 PM

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Drop down to tier V and bring out something like the KV-1, T1 or Bogatyr. If that fails, tier IV Valentine II or Pz B2 gets the job done.

Tempest fox3 #13 Posted 17 January 2020 - 12:24 AM

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I guess ops that require a tiny bit of skill aren't allowed.

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Pit Friend #14 Posted 17 January 2020 - 02:00 AM

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Just trying to finish this stupid Op this evening I finished Making a Point twice. Only got the IWS Op once. Screw this.

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Albapfalzd3 #15 Posted 17 January 2020 - 03:15 PM

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View PostTempest fox3, on 17 January 2020 - 12:24 AM, said:

I guess ops that require a tiny bit of skill aren't allowed.

 

Sure, get in large platoon of good players and your skills will have you finishing this OP in no time. 

 

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x_BAlN_x #16 Posted 17 January 2020 - 03:52 PM

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I've never seen this op. I usually get the most damage in a winning battle one.




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