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Should WG do a test to base accuracy on IRL?

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USSWISCONSIN94 #1 Posted 24 January 2020 - 02:33 PM

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So here's something been thinking about with the Loaded Dice coming back and kinda excited to see it back. one thing i wonder about is why not do the same for dispersion/Accuracy? from what i remember (bare with me) WG has said that the accuracy for the game is "based" on real life but they cut it in half. in other words. My T34 has a dispersion of .35 at 100m. With this test it would be .17 at 100m. and at 500m it would be 1.75 at 500m and with the test it would be cut in half to .87 at 500m.

 

Just a thought as WG keeps bringing out the loaded Dice which overall is a good thing.

 

Been playing WT and it feels really nice for once aiming a shot and it goes where you shoot instead of it leaping off to another postal code because of dispersion. while overall WT isn't better. it's something to think about.


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JatemKaa #2 Posted 24 January 2020 - 02:44 PM

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Agree. Would love to see only the accuracy changed, but leave damage as it normally is. Might make for an interesting event.

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I’d just like to see the shot dispersion within the current aiming circle to be changed. I feel as though too many shots go to the very edge of the circle, and would just like to see the distribution changed so more shots land near the center. An overall just slash accuracy and dispersion by some constant isn’t a great idea in my opinion. Imagine arty, it’d be way too accurate and would be able to shotgun left and right. Or imagine the FV 215b 183 or Heshbarn being able to snipe weak points from 400-500 meters. Nobody wants that. I would like an accuracy rework, but not just a flat buff to everything

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Get rid of Loaded Premium Spam, I mean dice event.

I dont mind+1-1 for a weekend event, makes everyone feel special:D



 

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Clearly we need derp guns to be the most accurate guns in the game. /s.

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Can you imagine half the dispersion on arty?  Nobody would be safe from the rain of death.

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View PostF1DrivingZombie, on 24 January 2020 - 08:48 AM, said:

I’d just like to see the shot dispersion within the current aiming circle to be changed. I feel as though too many shots go to the very edge of the circle, and would just like to see the distribution changed so more shots land near the center. An overall just slash accuracy and dispersion by some constant isn’t a great idea in my opinion. Imagine arty, it’d be way too accurate and would be able to shotgun left and right. Or imagine the FV 215b 183 or Heshbarn being able to snipe weak points from 400-500 meters. Nobody wants that. I would like an accuracy rework, but not just a flat buff to everything

Been saying for years the accuracy for both of those things to be dropped to lower levels really. Both IMO should be at .45 min and both should have prem HESH removed. Arty i think should have longer aim time if this does happen and lower the pen of both AP/APCR/HEAT/HE rounds for the fact they can lob shells over a mountain. 

 

Having shells land closer to the middle of the dot would be nice as well. but doubt it'll happen.

View PostTempest fox3, on 24 January 2020 - 09:25 AM, said:

Clearly we need derp guns to be the most accurate guns in the game. /s.

Clearly we need more RNG in game /s

 

Goes both ways.

View PostPontiac Pat, on 24 January 2020 - 09:29 AM, said:

Can you imagine half the dispersion on arty?  Nobody would be safe from the rain of death.

 

another reason why think arty should have their pen dropped. maybe even normal tanks too. but to a point.


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Deathstars would dominate even more, arty would become more ridiculous, derp guns would become over powered, etc. You clearly didn’t think this through and it shows with your condescending attitude to those who disagree. This game was created around a set of parameters you’d have to change those in order to really effectively introduce something like this however WG will never do that especially for an event  


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View PostPATRIOTICxTBro, on 24 January 2020 - 09:45 AM, said:

Deathstars would dominate even more, arty would become more ridiculous, derp guns would become over powered, etc. You clearly didn’t think this through and it shows with your condescending attitude to those who disagree. This game was created around a set of parameters you’d have to change those in order to really effectively introduce something like this however WG will never do that especially for an event  

 

I'm not being condescending you hypocrite lol. This is a idea been thinking about for a while as been playing WT and wondering as to how WoT could do this (And yes i bet they could with some changes) HESHTards and Arty i know would be more dangerous to a point unless you change some things about them as well as derp tanks. Guess you didn't think about that with YOUR condescending tone either ya jack wagon.

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One of the things I enjoy about WT my shell goes where I aimed it, if I missed it's down to me not aiming properly instead of the game deciding were my shell goes

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I voted yes loooong before I engaged my brain. No for reasons stated by others. I am sure I will enjoy the thread however as its already got a little spicy

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View PostUSSWISCONSIN94, on 24 January 2020 - 03:51 PM, said:

 

I'm not being condescending you hypocrite lol. This is a idea been thinking about for a while as been playing WT and wondering as to how WoT could do this (And yes i bet they could with some changes) HESHTards and Arty i know would be more dangerous to a point unless you change some things about them as well as derp tanks. Guess you didn't think about that with YOUR condescending tone either ya jack wagon.

 

War thunder has dispersion same as tanks does. It just doesn't gave any visual visual representation of it in the UI. 


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Decrease the chance of shells going astray by 50%. Increase hit points across the board by 50%. Reduce artillery alpha by 50%. Remove 183mm HESH. Keep alpha damage values the same otherwise.

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I know it sounds weird, but I wouldnt mind better accuracy on all the tanks (Except Arty, they are fine the way they are)

Too many times I aim a shot all the way down and zero in as much as I can for the round to go way off to the outside of the circle multiple times in a game. 

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View PostUSSWISCONSIN94, on 24 January 2020 - 07:51 AM, said:

 

I'm not being condescending you hypocrite lol. This is a idea been thinking about for a while as been playing WT and wondering as to how WoT could do this (And yes i bet they could with some changes) HESHTards and Arty i know would be more dangerous to a point unless you change some things about them as well as derp tanks. Guess you didn't think about that with YOUR condescending tone either ya jack wagon.

 

I treat others how they treat others. If you put a lot of thought into this I feel bad for you cause it’s really a quarter backed idea. Also key word to your op you said event WG isn’t going to change tank balance for that numbskull. They barely even balance tanks for the base game

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View PostTempest fox3, on 24 January 2020 - 10:13 AM, said:

 

War thunder has dispersion same as tanks does. It just doesn't gave any visual visual representation of it in the UI. 

which they added because "Historical accuracy" which isn't a good thing.

View PostPATRIOTICxTBro, on 24 January 2020 - 10:41 AM, said:

 

I treat others how they treat others. If you put a lot of thought into this I feel bad for you cause it’s really a quarter backed idea. Also key word to your op you said event WG isn’t going to change tank balance for that numbskull. They barely even balance tanks for the base game

Pls my lord. Let us your ideas as to what should happen instead of being a richard. Oh you going to whine about that too?

 

I bet WG could do this if they actually tried and maybe cared. but seems you care so much. why not do it yourself. Least im trying to add some ideas.


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Really bad idea.  Loaded dice is already a terrible idea, nerfing high RoF guns.  Then lets buff every high alpha gun in the game on top of that.  RIP high RoF tanks. 

 

It'd be 15v15 183s and FV4005s at tier X.  Accuracy is one of the biggest balancing parameters in this game.  Removing shot RNG is not going to work. 


 

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View PostTocFanKe4, on 24 January 2020 - 11:33 AM, said:

Really bad idea.  Loaded dice is already a terrible idea, nerfing high RoF guns.  Then lets buff every high alpha gun in the game on top of that.  RIP high RoF tanks. 

 

It'd be 15v15 183s and FV4005s at tier X.  Accuracy is one of the biggest balancing parameters in this game.  Removing shot RNG is not going to work. 

 

Keeping it at 25% is a worse idea. Lower RNG helps all yes alpha but RoF too. It goes both ways. not sure why you can't seem to get this. Loaded Dice didn't nerf High RoF guns lol.

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View PostUSSWISCONSIN94, on 24 January 2020 - 11:35 AM, said:

 

Keeping it at 25% is a worse idea. Lower RNG helps all yes alpha but RoF too. It goes both ways. not sure why you can't seem to get this. Loaded Dice didn't nerf High RoF guns lol.

 

Not sure why you don't understand how statistics work.  Loaded Dice is a nerf to high RoF tanks. 

 

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View PostUSSWISCONSIN94, on 24 January 2020 - 09:25 AM, said:

which they added because "Historical accuracy" which isn't a good thing.

Pls my lord. Let us your ideas as to what should happen instead of being a richard. Oh you going to whine about that too?

 

I bet WG could do this if they actually tried and maybe cared. but seems you care so much. why not do it yourself. Least im trying to add some ideas.

 

Seems you put as much thought into that reply as this whole idea





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