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MASHMAN 90 #21 Posted 13 February 2020 - 09:25 PM

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Gallant sent me this a while back, now's the perfect time to share it. Please pay no attention that it's an Arty Clip, That isn't the most important thing here, Watch the ending.

 



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He’s just there to waste your Medkit when you try to heal someone actually useful.

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If your radio operator is dead who's making the brews?.
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View PostRaiBOT01, on 13 February 2020 - 03:45 PM, said:

 

Ok, so there is a "radius/range" as to the tank doing the spotting goes from tank to tank in the vicinity right? Is that how it works?

If so, why can't this option be applied to arty in regards to their "god view' of the battle field? Arty has to be in radio radius of tanks spotting other tanks in order to hit those tanks and their "god view" only kicks in while arty is in radio range of said tanks.

This would require arty to move more often, and stay close to the front line of battle in order to support other tanks.

Of course I could also be misunderstanding how the radio operator works (other tan being a meat shield for fellow crew members and operating the radio...lol)

 


Edited by ElCrazyMexDeuce, 14 February 2020 - 07:24 AM.


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View PostMASHMAN 90, on 13 February 2020 - 03:25 PM, said:

Gallant sent me this a while back, now's the perfect time to share it. Please pay no attention that it's an Arty Clip, That isn't the most important thing here, Watch the ending.

 

Legit on point

View Postchoppermeir, on 13 February 2020 - 03:38 PM, said:

If your radio operator is dead who's making the brews?.

Good Q :amazed: We might need an extra crew for refreshments 


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Me guesses that OP does not play scouts....I don't like to heal my radio operator either, but, as a light, a big part of what I do depends on my friends seeing what I do.  It's kind of an 'invisible' ability (its a lot harder to see the consequences, than, say, a dead loader), but it is absolutely necessary, I have even started putting signal boosting on my French lights!

I bet if you spend most of your time in the herd you wouldn't even notice...us lone wolves out in the wilds, though....

Radio is probably the least understood mechanic in the game, and I think the small map sizes DO make it less relevant.


 


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View PostRed Dough Boy, on 13 February 2020 - 02:45 PM, said:

 

Radioman is also the one that can be replaced by the commander in a lot of tanks, 4 man crew instead of 5. 

 

Historically, this is what happened in real life. Radios were bulky and difficult to use when they first got placed in tanks - so much so a trained operator dedicated to that task alone was necessary. As time passed, the radios became less bulky and much easier to use, to the point that the commander could perform his normal duties and  perform the radio operators duties as well. This allowed the removal of the radio operator - meaning more space for ammo, fuel, crew comfort, etc.

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View PostJatemKaa, on 14 February 2020 - 04:33 PM, said:

 

Historically, this is what happened in real life. Radios were bulky and difficult to use when they first got placed in tanks - so much so a trained operator dedicated to that task alone was necessary. As time passed, the radios became less bulky and much easier to use, to the point that the commander could perform his normal duties and  perform the radio operators duties as well. This allowed the removal of the radio operator - meaning more space for ammo, fuel, crew comfort, etc.

 

True, a lot of the time when the radio man is dropped out of a tank it's at higher tiers. I didn't really think of radios being difficult enough to use to the point of needing one guy just trained as a radioman. An infantry man being trained and tasked with carrying a radio makes sense to me, but I usually thought the commander would be able to use the radio since part of his job is to communicate with other tanks anyway. Some tanks have 6 man crews but it's for extra loaders from what I've seen. Coincidentally on some British tanks I saw the loader doubled as the radio man, just kind of interesting to me to combine those two roles since if he's not actively loading he's the one with nothing at all to do. 


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View PostRed Dough Boy, on 14 February 2020 - 07:03 PM, said:

 

True, a lot of the time when the radio man is dropped out of a tank it's at higher tiers. I didn't really think of radios being difficult enough to use to the point of needing one guy just trained as a radioman. An infantry man being trained and tasked with carrying a radio makes sense to me, but I usually thought the commander would be able to use the radio since part of his job is to communicate with other tanks anyway. Some tanks have 6 man crews but it's for extra loaders from what I've seen. Coincidentally on some British tanks I saw the loader doubled as the radio man, just kind of interesting to me to combine those two roles since if he's not actively loading he's the one with nothing at all to do. 

 

In a lot of early war tanks the radio operator was also the bow machine gunner. It wasn’t as much the radios being difficult to use, they were just huge and bulky so they couldn’t easily fit into the farther cramped turrets of the time. The easiest place to put the radio was in the hull and the bow gunner was usually not too busy when not in combat.  The main task of operating the radio was just setting the thing to the correct frequencies for the day, so it wasn’t a full time job. 

 

There were some early tanks with dedicated radio operators. The French Char B1 had a radioman, but not all the tanks had radios so he usually handed ammo to the commander in the turret and looked to make sure the engine wasn’t on fire. The US M3 Lee had a 7th crewman in the hull just to operate the radio and load the fixed box machineguns. The Grant version the British commonwealth used deleted this crewman and the bow machineguns and replaced his spot with a drinking water tank. They almost doubled the size of the turret to fit the radio in the bustle instead. 

 

Some very early tanks didn’t have radios at all.  They relied on getting hand signals or seeing signal flags from the command tank, which wasn’t easy in the best of times much less in battle. Some even had little hatches to stick out flags from inside the tanks. That was the big advantage the Germans had in the early years of the blitzkrieg, all their tanks could if nothing else get orders by radio so they were much more coordinated in battle. 

 

Post war with the advances in electronics, particularly transistors instead of tubes, allowed tanks to have much smaller radios in the turrets without taking up too much space. 

 

 


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It doesn't matter because most of our maps are tiny.

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M18 Hellcat vs M36 Jackson

Hellcat’s tier X radio has a 750m range, Jackson’s tier IX radio has 615m range, and both have 370m view range.

Having played both rather extensively I will say that with everything else being equal, Hellcat has a noticeably better ability to “see” a spotted Red at a longer range. 


                                   

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