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PumpkinEcobar #1 Posted 14 February 2020 - 07:12 PM

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I haven't had one since I traded my Fatherland for the Tiger 131. I'm either going to get the bundle with the Scourge or either the IS5 or unskinned Defender. 

 

What would you get?

The single tank would be cheaper but I'm not that good with pike nose tanks. That could change with practice. 

But that Slayer and big ugly Bizon look fun. KV2 looks interesting also. 

 

Edit: More than anything I want a solid heavy tank. 



Joco3000 #2 Posted 14 February 2020 - 07:18 PM

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Kirovets-1.

Zooms along at 40 Kph quite happily, and is otherwise a normal IS-3 with a flat frontal plate and being slightly better.


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View PostJoco3000, on 14 February 2020 - 07:18 PM, said:

Kirovets-1.

Zooms along at 40 Kph quite happily, and is otherwise a normal IS-3 with a flat frontal plate and being slightly better.

 

This because the defender is pike nosed.  

Haggis McNoob #4 Posted 14 February 2020 - 07:20 PM

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I couldn't stand the Fatherland for some reason. Really enjoy the defender though.

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View PostHaggis McNoob, on 14 February 2020 - 07:20 PM, said:

I couldn't stand the Fatherland for some reason. Really enjoy the defender though.

 

The Fatherlands standard rounds have good pen and still bounce off everything.  It's the reason I hate the thing.



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View PostDrHorrible4Life, on 14 February 2020 - 07:25 PM, said:

 

The Fatherlands standard rounds have good pen and still bounce off everything.  It's the reason I hate the thing.

 

Tell me about it. I did the grind for the last free Fatherland I believe it was and was so disappointed when I got it. Just couldn't seem to get it to work. I'm not the most skilled player so I think it was me rather than the tank 



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Dreadnaught KV2 is awesome, really fun tank :) But it doesn't have anysort of armor, so if you want more traditional heavy I would recommend Defender, awesome armor that works even againt's tier 10 tanks and 440 alpha is nice :) If you want best silvermaker, Bizon T-103 for some reason seems to make matter silver than any other tier 8 Soviet premium that I've played (with the expection of ISU-130 which has 60% silver bonus but that vehicle itself is so bad I can't recommend it for anyone).

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View PostHaggis McNoob, on 14 February 2020 - 08:28 PM, said:

 

Tell me about it. I did the grind for the last free Fatherland I believe it was and was so disappointed when I got it. Just couldn't seem to get it to work. I'm not the most skilled player so I think it was me rather than the tank 

 

For some reason, I liked Fatherland more than regular IS-3. Maeby because better rate of fire, dunno.

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I've got a few:- IS-6, Fatherland, Gorynych, Defender, Scourge.

Scourge is the best of those, its mobile with very bouncy front armour if angled. The turret is right over the front, so you don't expose much of the tank peaking corners.

The rest of it is standard IS-3 armour.


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View PostDrHorrible4Life, on 14 February 2020 - 07:19 PM, said:

 

This because the defender is pike nosed.  

 

Whys that a problem? The 252u (unlike other pike nose tanks) can sidescrape and still have over 270 effective Armour on the UFP despite losing angle due to the pike nose. 


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I really love my Glory IS-5. Besides the beautiful paint, it’s practically the same as the IS-3 but trades armor thickness for mobility, but the pike nose is more sharply angled compared to the IS-3.

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Just wait a week I’m sure they’ll produce the latest greatest Russian heavy.


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View PostHaukkis, on 14 February 2020 - 02:28 PM, said:

Dreadnaught KV2 is awesome, really fun tank :) 

It's a VII....

He's looking for an VIII.



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Dont believe the nay-sayers.

The IS-6 still has it.

 


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View PostT00_Late_Checkm8, on 14 February 2020 - 08:41 PM, said:

Dont believe the nay-sayers.

The IS-6 still has it.

 

 

Why would you get the IS-6 when the Object 252U is both better and cheaper?

The IS-5, Kirovets-1 and IS-3A are also within the same price range, and the KV-5 is even cheaper still.


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I had Fatherland (IS-3), Gorynych (KV5), Kirovet (scourge), Glory IS-5, Skinless Defender and Hydra (IS-6 on steroids).

 

The Hydra is the most powerful of all these tanks: The Defender's barrel (=) with armor which is very close (-), with the nose of the scourge but the LFP much more difficult to penetrate (+++). One of the best assets of this tank is the rotation speed which is the same as that of the turret, unlike other heavy Russian while you maneuver your tank the sight remains stuck on the target. Its 75% bonus on money allows you to take oil, food and load it only with prammo, which artificially boosts its performance compared to others, put him a crew of 15 skill or more and you are in business.

 

Its turret is weaker but bounces as much as that of the Defender if you stay in motion. I think it may be one of the best heavy level 8 of all nations on WOT


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View PostJoco3000, on 14 February 2020 - 08:44 PM, said:

 

Why would you get the IS-6 when the Object 252U is both better and cheaper?

The IS-5, Kirovets-1 and IS-3A are also within the same price range, and the KV-5 is even cheaper still.

 

pref mm for me. (i just cant handle being an 8 in a 10 match, lets not elaborate on that)

but i mainly point out the is6 because it really isnt as bad as ppl say it is,

i personaly think its really good.

 


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Scourge is the best of the bunch.

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View PostT00_Late_Checkm8, on 14 February 2020 - 08:48 PM, said:

 

pref mm for me. (i just cant handle being an 8 in a 10 match, lets not elaborate on that)

but i mainly point out the is6 because it really isnt as bad as ppl say it is,

i personaly think its really good.

 

 

Fair enough on the PMM. I don't personally agree, but I can see the reasoning.

Thing is though, the IS-6 shares the same niche as the 112 and WZ-111. 

I know they're not Soviet, but they both do the "175mm penetration, 122mm D-25T tier VIII PMM" role better. That 250mm HEAT is a godsend.

 

I got rid of my IS-6 a while back. Couldn't stand it by the end.


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Personally speaking I find the 252u to be both the best and the most fun out of those options. It has very good armor, its gun hits harder than most tanks and even many TDs at the tier, and it's still mobile enough to not be left behind. I will say that the Scourge might be better against tier X tanks, but at the same time the 252u is still one of few tier VIII heavies that can hold its own at least somewhat well against tier Xs and is a much stronger heavy in most top tier matches.

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